03-07-2016, 11:49 PM
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#61
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A Fiddler Crab
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
That pick wouldn't be a lottery pick though. With a goalie holding. .917 over the season, the Flames are in the POs.
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If the Flames had a team save percentage of .917 we'd be tied for the 10th best save percentage in the league. We'd have the 7th best defence in the league, having allowed only 160 instead of 205 goals and our goal +/- would be +16.
This would be a better +/- than Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Anaheim, Nashville, and Minnesota and we should absolutely expect to be in a playoff position.
Now if we're talking about a goalie with a .917 as opposed to a team's overall it starts to depend on the backup. Jones has played 55 games for the Sharks, leaving 11 games for our backup to play - assume Ramo's .909 as our backup's numbers and you get basically the same outcome. Jones would have faced 1611 shots this year, Ramo 322. Jones' .917 would result in 133 GA, Ramo's .909 would result in 29 GA for a total of 162 GA.
Hoever, if Hiller (god I hate Hiller) was our backup, his .883 SV% turns those 322 shots into 38 GA instead of 29 and our goal +/- would drop to 5 and we'd likely end up a bubble team.
So, the long and short of it is, having a number one goalie posting a .917 who we could ride for most of the season would totally get the Flames up into the playoff picture at the very least. Having even below-average backup goaltending would keep us there. Having the travesty that is Hiller as a backup would flop us out.
Now, of course, the argument about save percentage as a team stat as opposed to a goalie stat is a good one. But the point is fair, a .917 number one goalie who could start 80+ percent of our games would be huge for this team.
Worth mentioning: Ortio's save percentage since 2/23 is .914.
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03-07-2016, 11:54 PM
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#62
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Fort St. John, BC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
we'd be very upset that we gave up a 1st round pick
.917 SV% before tonight... wasn't lighting up the league
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...and a GAA of 2.29, good for 13th in the league. Hell of a lot better than any of our goalies, by a huge margin
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03-08-2016, 12:14 AM
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#63
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Franchise Player
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When the bottom pairing combines to make less than Engelland, they look like a MUCH better team.
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03-08-2016, 12:39 AM
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#64
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Field near Field, AB
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Very ideal game in general for a rebuild and for a draft year. Lot's of push back and domination with a few key pieces missing.
Hathaway was great, Ferland was outstanding, as well as the usual suspects.
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03-08-2016, 12:46 AM
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#65
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Watching Hathaway makes me wish Ferland brings his snarl back. Doesn't need to be the full last years playoff mode, he'd just get injured once a week. But turn it up a little bit, please.
Imagine these two in a playoff series giving 110%. Yes please
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03-08-2016, 12:52 AM
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#66
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by btimbit
Watching Hathaway makes me wish Ferland brings his snarl back. Doesn't need to be the full last years playoff mode, he'd just get injured once a week. But turn it up a little bit, please.
Imagine these two in a playoff series giving 110%. Yes please
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Hathaway, Ferland, and Bouma in a playoff series would be mayhem.
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03-08-2016, 01:03 AM
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#67
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Hathaway, Ferland, and Bouma in a playoff series would be mayhem.
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03-08-2016, 03:58 AM
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#69
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Can't say there was anyone who I didn't like tonight. Hathaway was great and I thought even though he didn't face a ton of shots a good number of them were high quality chances and I think Ortio had a good game.
Sucks they lost but they deserved a better fate.
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03-08-2016, 04:15 AM
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#70
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rayne008
Somebody please have a gif of the Ferland beard tug on Burns. (The shift before he went all Xena on Hathaway)
I swear I heard Burns say "did you just f'in do that?!"
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I tried finding it, but no luck.
In the 2nd period before the fight?
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03-08-2016, 08:05 AM
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#71
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Franchise Player
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I really hate Burns after that elbow high stick on Hathaway. I'm glad he had his beard pulled. I hope next time Ferland rips it off completely.
Great game by the Flames.
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03-08-2016, 08:07 AM
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#72
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by N-E-B
Can't say there was anyone who I didn't like tonight. Hathaway was great and I thought even though he didn't face a ton of shots a good number of them were high quality chances and I think Ortio had a good game.
Sucks they lost but they deserved a better fate.
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So far this is the Ortio we all hoped would show up this season.
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03-08-2016, 08:16 AM
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#73
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by doctajones428
...and a GAA of 2.29, good for 13th in the league. Hell of a lot better than any of our goalies, by a huge margin
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Not to mention, he's third in the league with 33 wins.
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03-08-2016, 08:21 AM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hockey.modern
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Loved the guy coming into the game, hated him during the game, and have mad respect for him now.
Guy goes in, battles with Hathaway (very viciously, mind you) and walks away from the field of battle with a nod. Gotta love a guy like that.
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03-08-2016, 08:53 AM
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#75
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Hathaway makes me forget Ferland even exists.
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03-08-2016, 09:14 AM
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#76
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Hathaway is our jerk!
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03-08-2016, 09:17 AM
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#77
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Franchise Player
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I hope Bob reassured Hathaway that his misconduct penalty was a BS call. Just like he publicly said he saw nothing wrong with McGrattan's salute to the crowd upon his return to the dome.
Being a young callup like that, Hathaway might be worried that he upset his coach or GM by getting the misconduct, and start over thinking things and perhaps play with less edge. Hopefully they heap praise on him for his good game last night.
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03-08-2016, 09:21 AM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: A small painted room
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Bouma and Backlund were working for Don King last night! GG
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03-08-2016, 09:25 AM
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#79
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Hathaway, Ferland, and Bouma in a playoff series would be mayhem.
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And a bigger, stronger Sam to captain them troops
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03-08-2016, 09:53 AM
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#80
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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I really like Jokipakka so far, every thing else we get in that trade might just be gravy if he keeps his level of play up.
They have been sheltering him a bit, and hasn't played a ton, but have liked him when he's on the ice.
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