10-14-2022, 12:22 PM
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#701
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It's a dandy of a team he put together. Nothing short of spectacular considering how things were looking in mid July. Take a bow, Brad!
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10-14-2022, 01:16 PM
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#702
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Regardless of how this year/core goes, I am happy to shift my view of treliving completely.
I complained a lot about the team's make up, and coach decisions, over the years.
In the span of 2 years, he's moved out the core (Giordano, monahan, gaudreau, tkachuk) and somehow made the team better.
In my eyes now, He deserves a ton of credit, regardless of how this all plays out.
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10-14-2022, 01:30 PM
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#703
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Acerbic Cyberbully
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I think one of the big takeaways from all of this is that quality people are difficult to find, and when you have them the best thing to do is to bear with them when they inevitably make mistakes here and there. I maintain that Treliving had banked enough credit since he was hired to draw from over the past year or two while he grinded through putting his vision for this team onto the ice. He is excellent at his job, and thank god the owners believe in him enough to see this through.
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10-14-2022, 01:32 PM
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#704
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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I think he's done an amazing job but I personally feel they're still just 1 piece away. If he could find a way to add a top 6 goal scorer, this team would be a power house.
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10-14-2022, 02:17 PM
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#705
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Poe969
I think he's done an amazing job but I personally feel they're still just 1 piece away. If he could find a way to add a top 6 goal scorer, this team would be a power house.
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I'm 100% sure that Treliving feels the same way and is consistently on the phone and scouting for that last piece.
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10-14-2022, 02:31 PM
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#706
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by blankall
I'm 100% sure that Treliving feels the same way and is consistently on the phone and scouting for that last piece.
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It's been reported several times by Friedman and other insiders that he's looking for another top 9 forward.
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10-14-2022, 02:36 PM
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#707
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
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I thought Rodrigues was pretty good last night and I was wishing Treliving went that direction and maybe he tried. Tough though, because that would have been at the expense of Stone. I'm being nit picky though. Thought the team looked pretty good all the way through.
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10-14-2022, 02:38 PM
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#708
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Join Date: Feb 2007
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Tre is probably thinking to himself- 'looks good, gonna take a few months off' :d
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10-14-2022, 02:55 PM
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#709
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
I've not been a big fan of Treliving but now the Weegar deal is done I have to give him major props for making the absolute best out of a bad situation that he in part created. It's pretty rare to see a GM pull a rabbit out of his hat in such dire circumstances. Time will tell how the Huberdeau, Kadri, and Weegar contracts turn out but I can't fault a GM for adding what appears to be an excellent threesome of players to offset the loss of the two best forwards on the team. Hopefully it pays off in the next four seasons so when the contracts maybe don't look so good we can look back and say it was worth it.
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I think with Kadri hoping for four more good seasons is readying yourself for disappointment, but there's no denying even that signing made a ton of sense at the time it was made, and he's looking like a perfect addition to this team right now.
If nothing more, it's interesting to see how this plays out.
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10-14-2022, 03:51 PM
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#710
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
I think he's done an amazing job but I personally feel they're still just 1 piece away. If he could find a way to add a top 6 goal scorer, this team would be a power house.
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There's very few teams with zero holes. Those that are close do so on the back of some kid on an ELC or bargain contracts. Like Mackinnon or Nichushkin alonf with Byram and Newhook last year.
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10-14-2022, 04:13 PM
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#711
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
There's very few teams with zero holes. Those that are close do so on the back of some kid on an ELC or bargain contracts. Like Mackinnon or Nichushkin alonf with Byram and Newhook last year.
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Yeah this is really what the Flames need(ed). Someone to come from within a be a difference maker beyond their pay scale and put up a surprise 20+ goals. Would be nice if guys like Ruzicka, Zara, Phillips etc could take that step. Or have Kylington or Dube turn the corner into top NHLers. Either of the two would be super helpful.
Tre’s done a nice job turning this team around, but the team has had a tough time growing top talent from within. Mangiapane and Andersson are two of the better ones, but we need more. And they are getting into being paid vs underpaid.
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10-14-2022, 04:44 PM
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#712
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
There's very few teams with zero holes. Those that are close do so on the back of some kid on an ELC or bargain contracts. Like Mackinnon or Nichushkin alonf with Byram and Newhook last year.
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Yes every team has holes but where that hole is means a world of difference. The Flames have great depth on D but not up front, I'd rather have a weak 3rd pairing and a strong top 9.
I'm still predicting Zary making the jump this year and helping out in the top 9.
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10-14-2022, 07:19 PM
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A weak third pairing means you're one injury or penalty away from having a bad defenceman on your second pairing.
Being shy a third-line winger is a lot easier to work with.
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10-14-2022, 09:13 PM
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#714
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Poe969
Yes every team has holes but where that hole is means a world of difference. The Flames have great depth on D but not up front, I'd rather have a weak 3rd pairing and a strong top 9.
I'm still predicting Zary making the jump this year and helping out in the top 9.
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Up front? The Flames have among the best centre depth I'm the entire NHL.
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10-14-2022, 09:17 PM
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#715
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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not nearly as worried about the wings in the top 9 after yesterday . it is evident that this cast has the ability to carry the mail offensively .. just need to upgrade on Lewis .. even if its a minor upgrade
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10-14-2022, 09:22 PM
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#716
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
not nearly as worried about the wings in the top 9 after yesterday . it is evident that this cast has the ability to carry the mail offensively .. just need to upgrade on Lewis .. even if its a minor upgrade
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Disagree. We need to upgrade the top line RW and push everyone down one peg.
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10-14-2022, 09:23 PM
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#717
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
A weak third pairing means you're one injury or penalty away from having a bad defenceman on your second pairing.
Being shy a third-line winger is a lot easier to work with.
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No it doesn't. As long as your #5 is solid.
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10-14-2022, 09:27 PM
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#718
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Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Disaree. We need to upgrade the top line RW and push everyone down one peg.
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well in a perfect world .. um yeah . this is a salary cap world and the D, C and G positions are more important to winning than the wing is, so if we had to pick a weakness we have it in the right place at least
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10-14-2022, 10:04 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
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Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Disagree. We need to upgrade the top line RW and push everyone down one peg.
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No, they don't. It would be great if the Flames did improve their forward depth, but I don't see any reason to think that this is an insurmountable flaw that will obstruct the possibility for success
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10-14-2022, 10:38 PM
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#720
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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No, they don't. It would be great if the Flames did improve their forward depth, but I don't see any reason to think that this is an insurmountable flaw that will obstruct the possibility for success
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It's not an insurmountable flaw, but it's a clear misfit. Toffoli is pretty slow, Huberdeau compliments fast, quick thinking forwards that can finish his elite, quick passes. And we acquired an elite passer to have players finish so we can contend.
I'd agree that a sniping, quick winger is of huge importance if you're looking to create a strong top line, which of course will be needed if we want to contend. More of a direct need for the top line, than a lack of good forwards overall. And Brad's comments lately seem to indicate he agrees with this.
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