Israel declares war on Hamas

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

They don't mention it because it destroys their narrative.

How about Hamas gives up, they decide as a nation to focus on peace and end the pay to slay system. Israel returns the favor as their security concerns are resolved.

This whole situation sucks, but again, if Palestinians put down their weapons, there would be peace. If Israel put down their weapons, they would be dead. Just like October 7.

These posters are not looking for peace, instead they walk a very cautious line to avoid saying what they want to say. It is embarrassing that this site lets them post this stuff. If it was about eliminating any other group besides jews, it would be shut down.

Of course they will come out and call me names as usual, but none of them actually engage in dialogue to discuss what would it take to make peace in the region (besides Israel giving up).

Meanwhile, all of the far more terrible wars are ignored by them, including Sudan, Syria, Pakistan, Yemen, the Kurds or even the actual apartheid going on, that is against Women and any minorities across the middle east, besides of course Israel where they have all the rights as everyone else. They are liars, know they are liars and are on a hockey website spreading Iranian propaganda against Jews (they they disguise as 'antizionists', which they don't even know what it means). And doing this in Canada. They ignored thousands of rockets fired at Israel, ignored Palestinians murdered in Syria, ignored Hezbollah leading to the decay of Lebanon, ignored the missed elections year after year in Gaza and West Bank, just ignore anything that goes against their narrative. One thread posting about the LGB community, the next thread promoting Hamas talking points. Just vile.

Lie after lie, it doesn't end. The harassment my kids have experienced, some of it violent, all from the same cesspool of hatred.

Israel is a country focused on advancing, Gaza is not, their government is focused on destroying. The accusations of genocide, apartheid, it is all nonsense. Enough is enough, October 7 had no justification. Instead of developing Gaza, Hamas dedicated nearly 20 years on destroying Israel and are now paying the price (which is terrible as I can only repeat so many times). But that price is what every other nation would do after 20 years of attacks. Hamas' biggest supporter, Iran, publicly threatening Israel over and over and civilians always pay the price. To not see this means you are a useful pawn to hatred.

While not Gaza, and not the same intensity, you’d have to also stop the West Bank settlers to achieve that overall peace.

[PepsiFree]

I think it’s genuinely funny when pro-Israeli government posters say “What about _____? Why aren’t you talking issue with that conflict??” and it’s always a conflict they also have never once commented on.

It’s not as funny as watching the boards most bigoted posters rally around the Israeli government without any sense of irony. But it is funny. Nage is slobbering over Skooten, just happy to have a friend, meanwhile Skooten before he disappeared was busy getting mad at black people, “natives” and yes, hilariously, even “israelites” for protesting hahaha. Along with loving Cliff and Azure’s posts, two guys who just compared jews to nazis.

Genius lol.

[Bill Bumface]

It's so funny how these guys come in here and say killing civilians en masse is justified because Hamas did something terrible (which they absolutely did).

Hamas is using the exact same logic on their side, and that's how they mentally justified the horrific October 7 attacks in the first place.

So good work everyone supporting the Israeli slaughtering of civilians - you're using the exact same logic as the objectively evil terrorists.

Wait - what does that make you then??

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by edslunch

While not Gaza, and not the same intensity, you’d have to also stop the West Bank settlers to achieve that overall peace.

I agree completely. I don't necessarily support the settlers, but have read and learned about them and am aware of both sides. Israel believes they have the right to develop land that was gained during a war believed to be started by the losers. Palestinians disagree, thinking it is their land. Israel counters with they should accept land for peace or counter offer, and until than, Israel will continue developing their country. I can see from both sides what is happening and I can also say the settlers are a component of peace, but that is like last in my list of priorities, with safety of jews and Palestinians being number 1. Safety is the top priority, or should be.

Note that Jews in Gaza were forced out about 20 years ago, and the result was Hamas moving in and non stop rockets (leading to October 7), so you can see how Israel might think offering to curtail or remove any form of settler does not help, it hinders.

Some of the posters here don't have a clue and believe settlers are some ultra violent group that are basically the nazis. You can see how that isn't reflective of the reality on the ground. Just a word they repurposed. Settlers have been violent, but so have the Palestinian neighbors. Both sides need to focus on safety for the other.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

It's so funny how these guys come in here and say killing civilians en masse is justified because Hamas did something terrible (which they absolutely did).

Hamas is using the exact same logic on their side, and that's how they mentally justified the horrific October 7 attacks in the first place.

So good work everyone supporting the Israeli slaughtering of civilians - you're using the exact same logic as the objectively evil terrorists.

Wait - what does that make you then??

I don't think funny is the right word. Killing people that I know wasn't funny and I doubt it is funny for any of the posters here who lost friends or family on either side.

I don't know anyone on the Israeli side of things (I am sure they exist though) that believe killing civilians is the purpose of what is happening. Gaza declared war and are losing that war. Gaza's military is under civilians, this is not a strategy that has worked this time attacking Israel, this was a disgusting attack and Israel believes this is the quickest path to peace.

You are supporting the slaughter of civilians by defending Hamas which is disgusting. I wish October 7 didn't happen and instead Gaza chose the path of peace with its neighbors. You don't and that is not funny.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Do you think it's ok to rape and murder children over a land dispute?

No, I think that’s horrible and awful.

Do you think it’s sad / immoral / horrible etc. what is happening to innocent Palestinans?

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

Ok it's terrible to kill anyone, especially innocent people. There you go, what does that mean? Did you protest the bombing of Nazi Germany in WW2? When you are forced into war innocent people die, Israel was attacked and has to respond or they will be attacked again, Hamas attacked and killed people because they feel land has been stolen or they just want to kill Jews, these two are not the same. What does it take to get through your thick skull?

Sorry I missed this reply before replying.

You ask “what does that mean” but I think it’s important because it shows that you understand it’s wrong and then a discussion with you can be a whole lot more based on reason. Basically, do you have any humanity or not.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

I agree completely. I don't necessarily support the settlers, but have read and learned about them and am aware of both sides. Israel believes they have the right to develop land that was gained during a war believed to be started by the losers. Palestinians disagree, thinking it is their land. Israel counters with they should accept land for peace or counter offer, and until than, Israel will continue developing their country. I can see from both sides what is happening and I can also say the settlers are a component of peace, but that is like last in my list of priorities, with safety of jews and Palestinians being number 1. Safety is the top priority, or should be.

Note that Jews in Gaza were forced out about 20 years ago, and the result was Hamas moving in and non stop rockets (leading to October 7), so you can see how Israel might think offering to curtail or remove any form of settler does not help, it hinders.

Some of the posters here don't have a clue and believe settlers are some ultra violent group that are basically the nazis. You can see how that isn't reflective of the reality on the ground. Just a word they repurposed. Settlers have been violent, but so have the Palestinian neighbors. Both sides need to focus on safety for the other.

Do you also find it wild how "democrats" or people who claim to be left wing are fighting so hard for a group of people who were once allied with the Nazis and today throw homosexuals off buildings and don't believe in womens rights?
It must be quite the dilemma for them how both Trump and Biden will fully support Israel. These are also people who would go around saying "punch a nazi" and now they are protesting beside people who openly display swastikas.
I guess these fake democrats were fascists all along and just hiding in plain sight.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I think it’s genuinely funny when pro-Israeli government posters say “What about _____? Why aren’t you talking issue with that conflict??” and it’s always a conflict they also have never once commented on.

It’s not as funny as watching the boards most bigoted posters rally around the Israeli government without any sense of irony. But it is funny. Nage is slobbering over Skooten, just happy to have a friend, meanwhile Skooten before he disappeared was busy getting mad at black people, “natives” and yes, hilariously, even “israelites” for protesting hahaha. Along with loving Cliff and Azure’s posts, two guys who just compared jews to nazis.

Genius lol.

Is that the best you got? You dance around all the questions only to post some weak ass comment about posts I made like 8 years ago? You don't even know who the black hebrew israelites are let alone what they believe. You're like a child who has wandered into a conversation way above your head but you saw a word you recognized and now you made a post embarrassing yourself. Keep trying kiddo. xD

[Yamer]

Walter Sobchak over here.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

These posters are not looking for peace, instead they walk a very cautious line to avoid saying what they want to say. It is embarrassing that this site lets them post this

What is it that they want to say?
And what is it that they post that is embarrassing? You trying to control the narrative just because some people find your viewpoint repulsive?

Poor you. What a victim. Your torment must be way beyond that of the grieving, starving, sick, wounded people that are missing their dead relatives as a result of a genocide you continue to excuse. Poor you.

You defend and excuse the mass slaughter of innocent civilians including children infants and newborns. That is simply what you do. That's your viewpoint.

People find you and your views sick vile and repulsive. Live with it. It's a perfectly normal justifiable viewpoint.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Bagor

What is it that they want to say?
And what is it that they post that is embarrassing? You trying to control the narrative just because some people find your viewpoint repulsive?

Poor you. What a victim. Your torment must be way beyond that of the grieving, starving, sick, wounded people that are missing their dead relatives as a result of a genocide you continue to excuse. Poor you.

You defend and excuse the mass slaughter of innocent civilians including children infants and newborns. That is simply what you do. That's your viewpoint.

People find you and your views sick vile and repulsive. Live with it. It's a perfectly normal justifiable viewpoint.

You don't bother defending the death of women and children you revel in it, you glorify the people who do it and raise the swastika in your "protests". The free countries of the world don't support your hatred and once united to kill the fascism you support today. Israel is a democracy and will continue to strive for peace while you and your ilk strive for more death and bloodshed.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

You don't bother defending the death of women and children you revel in it, you glorify the people who do it and raise the swastika in your "protests". The free countries of the world don't support your hatred and once united to kill the fascism you support today. Israel is a democracy and will continue to strive for peace while you and your ilk strive for more death and bloodshed.

The only thing worse than a monster is a monster who believes they are righteous.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

You don't bother defending the death of women and children you revel in it, you glorify the people who do it and raise the swastika in your "protests". The free countries of the world don't support your hatred and once united to kill the fascism you support today. Israel is a democracy and will continue to strive for peace while you and your ilk strive for more death and bloodshed.

It appears my post stung you. But unfortunately, yes, people do find your bloodlust and defence of the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents repulsive. Just the way it is.

The citizens of the free countries don't want anything to do with the likes of those that support and defend the murder of children. They find them vile and disgusting.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

The only thing worse than a monster is a monster who believes they are righteous.

*He said unironically to his friend with the swastika.

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by Bagor

It appears my post stung you. But unfortunately, yes, people do find your bloodlust and defence of the slaughter of tens of thousands of innocents repulsive. Just the way it is.

The citizens of the free countries don't want anything to do with the likes of those that support and defend the murder of children. They find them vile and disgusting.

It must really sting when the USA sends a couple billion to Israel, awww I guess the free world doesn't agree with you.

[ResAlien]

I’m with skoobetyboop. They’ve convinced me with how they keep calling everyone literal Nazis. It’s appropriate and reasonable and therefore it appeals to the logical parts of my mind

[Skootenbeeten]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

I’m with skoobetyboop. They’ve convinced me with how they keep calling everyone literal Nazis. It’s appropriate and reasonable and therefore it appeals to the logical parts of my mind

It's pretty obvious you lot have been insulting and attacking Nage here and he is much more eloquent than I am so why would I give two ####s about convincing you lot of anything? I'm just here to rile up the terrorist sympathizers.

[ResAlien]

I suppose being here explicitly to troll is cool. Sounds fun

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by Skootenbeeten

It must really sting when the USA sends a couple billion to Israel, awww I guess the free world doesn't agree with you.

Yes. It makes me sick to the stomach at the thought of more innocents including children infants and newborns being slaughtered. As it does most humane people.

Telling though that this further slaughter gives you cause for gloating? What a weird response.

But that doesn't change the fact that the citizens view you and your sick viewpoint and your willingness to tell deliberate lies to defend it as vile and repulsive?

Sorry. Just the way it is is.