02-27-2009, 11:01 AM
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#41
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Wherever you go there you are.
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Athlon 64 4800+ X2
2x1 GB micron DDR
A8N-SLI Premium
SB Audigy 2
XFX 8800GT 512mb
(many HDD drives)
Antec case 430?(Based off of the sonata, but had the rougher exterior, was essentially the office version of the case)
OCZ Gamextreme 700W
Samsung 940T
Thermalright XP-90 w/Sunon 92mm
Suprisingly enough despite some chuggy sections in Crysis I was able to get through it ok. Bioshock looks pretty good, Supreme commander makes it cry after an hour of gameplay, and C&C had no problems. My comp competently does it job.
Also, any of the intel boards with the ICH7 don't natively have an IDE channel, which is why any of the newer intel boards have a 3rd party chip doing the ide work.
ATI/AMD and Nvidia still support IDE natively I think. I haven't really looked at their chipset roadmaps in over a year.
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02-27-2009, 11:45 AM
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#42
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
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Thanks, I'll look into those ones. Do you have a pair? If so, what are the positives and negatives?
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02-27-2009, 02:53 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Esoteric
Thanks, I'll look into those ones. Do you have a pair? If so, what are the positives and negatives?
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I've heard about problems w/ the mic plug, so it's not really a tool-about pair (I have a Creative pair for my laptop bag), but they feel pretty solid on the whole. The splitterbox works fine, and the sound is fantastic. Left 4 Dead is mad intense in full 5.1. It processes stereo sound pretty well too (though not at the level of some stereo headsets), and feels natural for music. The 'subwoofer' has moderately good bass reflex and punctuates the general EQ adequately.
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03-02-2009, 05:08 AM
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#44
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First Line Centre
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This will be my first time building a computer, this is my shopping list:
i7 920
Gigabyte - GA-EX58-UD5
Corsair 6GB 1333 DDR3
Western digital 500GB 7200rpm 32mb cache X2 in RAID 0
(was looking at the raptor, but every single person I talked to warned against it. Seagate is also apparently having drive failure issues with their new drives)
e-GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 SSC Edition
(If I went in on friday, could have got the 280 for a similar price )
Corsair 750W PSU
BenQ - V2400W 24in Widescreen LCD w/ DVI, HDMI, 2ms, Black
I have not been able to sleep for days in anticipation of starting this build. Any recommendations?
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03-02-2009, 08:25 AM
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#45
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by starseed
This will be my first time building a computer, this is my shopping list:
i7 920
Gigabyte - GA-EX58-UD5
Corsair 6GB 1333 DDR3
Western digital 500GB 7200rpm 32mb cache X2 in RAID 0
(was looking at the raptor, but every single person I talked to warned against it. Seagate is also apparently having drive failure issues with their new drives)
e-GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 SSC Edition
(If I went in on friday, could have got the 280 for a similar price )
Corsair 750W PSU
BenQ - V2400W 24in Widescreen LCD w/ DVI, HDMI, 2ms, Black
I have not been able to sleep for days in anticipation of starting this build. Any recommendations?
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You can still get a 280 for a similar price
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Product...21171(ME).aspx
Better be quick about it though!
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03-02-2009, 08:39 AM
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#46
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First Line Centre
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Ya, I saw that, but it says that the $160 instant savings ended on February 28th.
I will be heading into memory express today to poke around... and maybe start buying components.
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03-02-2009, 08:59 AM
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#47
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by starseed
Ya, I saw that, but it says that the $160 instant savings ended on February 28th.
I will be heading into memory express today to poke around... and maybe start buying components.
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So it does, I missed that.
If you plan on doing a fair bit of gaming, why not shell out the extra $100 or so and get a BFG GTX 285? The gains are quite a bit more, and the cost really isn't too much higher. Memory express has it listed for $450 after a $25 mail in rebate.
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03-02-2009, 09:04 AM
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#48
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by starseed
Western digital 500GB 7200rpm 32mb cache X2 in RAID 0
(was looking at the raptor, but every single person I talked to warned against it. Seagate is also apparently having drive failure issues with their new drives)
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What were the warnings against the Raptor? I was just about to get one to replace some HDs in my current build.
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03-02-2009, 09:14 AM
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#49
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First Line Centre
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I will check out the 285, I may do just that...
The problems I heard about the raptor were the noise level, and the greater risk of having the drive fail. A couple of people I talked to told me that the difference in speed is not that much. I am just going to play it safe and go with 7200rpm drives.
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03-02-2009, 09:23 AM
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#50
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Calgary
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Noise levels was addressed earlier in the thread for the Raptor.
But yes, I'd have to agree with the possible higher fail rate. With it running at 10k RPM and higher heat levels. Will need to compensate with some cooling especially if you take it out of the casing for the noise issue.
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03-02-2009, 09:53 AM
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#51
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First Line Centre
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The Western Digital Caviar Black drives perform almost as well as the Raptor drives. Having 32 MB of cache makes a huge difference.
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03-02-2009, 10:30 AM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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If you're concerned about noise and drive failure but still want fast loads, just run 2 drives in raid 0. It's awesome.
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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03-02-2009, 12:30 PM
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#53
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Just be aware that with raid 0 your chance of loosing everything doubles.
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03-02-2009, 12:57 PM
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#54
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by photon
Just be aware that with raid 0 your chance of loosing everything doubles.
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I put all essential data on my external drive, I always act as if I could lose drive tomorrow.
How much does this speed up? I hear different things about the effectiveness of setting up RAID 0.
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03-02-2009, 02:24 PM
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#55
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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It's a beast, absolutely destroys anything you throw at it
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03-02-2009, 02:25 PM
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#56
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Medicine Hat
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This product has been mentioned before in other similar threads, but...
Drobo. Combining RAID 0 and data redundancy in plug-and-play simplicity.
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03-02-2009, 02:36 PM
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#57
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Quote:
Originally Posted by starseed
I put all essential data on my external drive, I always act as if I could lose drive tomorrow.
How much does this speed up? I hear different things about the effectiveness of setting up RAID 0.
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Your write times are doubled, and your load times are halved.
That's the gist of raid 0
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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03-02-2009, 03:22 PM
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#58
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
It's a beast, absolutely destroys anything you throw at it
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You talking about the computer, or the guy sitting in front of it?
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03-02-2009, 03:24 PM
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#59
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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In practice it's not doubled though, in benchmarks it can come close, but in real world tests the impact is noticeable but not revolutionary.
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Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position.
But certainty is an absurd one.
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03-02-2009, 03:27 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
In practice it's not doubled though, in benchmarks it can come close, but in real world tests the impact is noticeable but not revolutionary.
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This is true, but it's nice for certain games (COUGH BATTLEFIELD COUGH) which before took up to 90 seconds to load a map, now it's always under a minute.
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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