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Old 11-11-2022, 03:55 PM   #5161
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Hopefully future players with such an opportunity choose Canada more frequently
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Old 11-11-2022, 03:56 PM   #5162
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Do we know when we can expect Canada’s roster to be announced? Could it be they are trying for other dual nation eligibility players who haven’t been picked?
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Old 11-11-2022, 03:59 PM   #5163
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Do we know when we can expect Canada’s roster to be announced? Could it be they are trying for other dual nation eligibility players who haven’t been picked?
i think it would be tough to bring someone in now, no chemistry. The players who helped qualify should be rewarded.
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Old 11-11-2022, 04:00 PM   #5164
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Sunday.
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Old 11-13-2022, 08:29 AM   #5165
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Waterman has made the World Cup squad. First CPL alumni to go to a World Cup. Great stuff.

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Old 11-13-2022, 09:08 AM   #5166
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Now it begins. Go Canada
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Old 11-13-2022, 09:12 AM   #5167
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Full squad. Don't think there are many surprises here.

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Old 11-13-2022, 09:13 AM   #5168
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No Henry. Me likey.
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Old 11-13-2022, 04:32 PM   #5169
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No Henry. Me likey.
He got hurt in warmup on Friday.

Great for Waterman. Well deserved and fitting that a Cavalry player that Forge kept out of the Final 2 years ago, goes as first CPL player. IMO that’s Herdman seeing some quality, and not bowing to pressure to get some patronage player from TFC Academy that will please someone in the OSA or CSA board.

It’s hard to predict who will be around in 4 years outside of a few guys, but as has been mentioned, the teams depth is pretty shallow. Subs should only see the field in garbage time or any other time, only if they have a sniff at 2026 (and of course Hutchinson for a “Heritage Moment”).
I am sure Herdman will get some strong suggestions from CSA staff for player selection if the games go sideways, but as he has done so far in his tenure, hopefully he tells them to stuff it.

Also, havent seen this posted.

https://www.tsn.ca/canada-soccer-pre...deal-1.1876028

Bontis opened his big mouth again a few days back, and in typical fashion, a lot of grandstanding words being used.
One note in there of potential foreshadowing…that Herdman back for 2026 isn’t a lock.

Does he want to stay but won’t be paid what he wants? Or not want to deal with the garbage behind the scenes he has already, for another 4 years?

Will leave that one alone for now.
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He got hurt in warmup on Friday.

Great for Waterman. Well deserved and fitting that a Cavalry player that Forge kept out of the Final 2 years ago, goes as first CPL player. IMO that’s Herdman seeing some quality, and not bowing to pressure to get some patronage player from TFC Academy that will please someone in the OSA or CSA board.

It’s hard to predict who will be around in 4 years outside of a few guys, but as has been mentioned, the teams depth is pretty shallow. Subs should only see the field in garbage time or any other time, only if they have a sniff at 2026 (and of course Hutchinson for a “Heritage Moment”).
I am sure Herdman will get some strong suggestions from CSA staff for player selection if the games go sideways, but as he has done so far in his tenure, hopefully he tells them to stuff it.

Also, havent seen this posted.

https://www.tsn.ca/canada-soccer-pre...deal-1.1876028

Bontis opened his big mouth again a few days back, and in typical fashion, a lot of grandstanding words being used.
One note in there of potential foreshadowing…that Herdman back for 2026 isn’t a lock.

Does he want to stay but won’t be paid what he wants? Or not want to deal with the garbage behind the scenes he has already, for another 4 years?

Will leave that one alone for now.
Herdman could be on to bigger and better things? Obviously that’s a little premature, given the WC is a week away, but he’s made an enormous impact with both the Women’s and Men’s programs here and surely that’s not unnoticed.
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Herdman could be on to bigger and better things? Obviously that’s a little premature, given the WC is a week away, but he’s made an enormous impact with both the Women’s and Men’s programs here and surely that’s not unnoticed.
A) He wants to leave, tired of battling the CSA for funds and the basics required to create an environment to develop elite players (men and women) in his 9 years in the country. I think he got some of that leeway to do things his way when the CSA had to save its face after the last disastrous hire (where the search took longer than the guys’ tenure) that other coaches didn’t get over the years, but he’s still having to make due in any number of ways.

B)Someone throws a huge pile of money at him to fix their program that he can’t say no to and would be legitimately hard to match.

C)He wants to stay through 2026 and would take a discount to stay over other offers, but the CSA doesn’t really want to pay him…they got their WC out of him 4 years earlier than most anticipated, and the CSA can take back the control
they have ceded to him if he goes. They could name everyone in this thread as co coaches if we promised to do it for free, and we have no risk of not qualifying for 2026…so why pay someone huge coin? The CSA has been far more shortsighted than that on various things in the past decades.
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If, as expected, Canada are beaten badly against Belgium and Croatia, what would be his motivation for staying on? This is the best group of players he's ever going to manage in his lifetime. He should surely be in the mix for a League 1 job in England. Let him make a few bob before his star fades.
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I dont think Herdman will be staying on. He's going to have lots of opportunities after this tournament and Canada have kind of reached their ceiling.
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Old 11-13-2022, 06:26 PM   #5174
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If, as expected, Canada are beaten badly against Belgium and Croatia, what would be his motivation for staying on? This is the best group of players he's ever going to manage in his lifetime. He should surely be in the mix for a League 1 job in England. Let him make a few bob before his star fades.
He doesn’t have a league manager type mentality.

His strength seems to be the longer term development of a program, structure and player development. That takes years of time to develop all of those aspects and see success (which makes his 4+ years as MNT manager that much more remarkable from where it was all at in 2018) and is not based on week to week results that league soccer demands.
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Old 11-13-2022, 10:45 PM   #5175
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Herdman’s profile has already been raised, regardless of what happens in Qatar. He took a dysfunctional program, righted the ship and qualified for the WC, despite all the shenanigans from his association.

FAs around the world will certainly be interested in his services as someone who can rebuild a program. My bet is that even some of the highest profile teams might be watching.

Take Belgium for example. Anything less than a Final appearance will probably be a failure in their eyes, and the last kick at the can for this group. Bring in a guy like Herdman to rebuild and in 4 years or so, you might be right back in the top-5. Herdman would be given authority, autonomy AND a budget that isn’t Mickey Mouse.
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Old 11-14-2022, 06:16 PM   #5176
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Cavallini was released by the Whitecaps today. Unattached FC is back baby!
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Cavallini was released by the Whitecaps today. Unattached FC is back baby!
68 appearances for Vancouver, 18 goals, 25 cards. As a striker.
Shocked to hear he’s paid the second highest on the Whitecaps at $1.4M a year!

He’s a rhinoceros that can run in straight lines and that’s about it…and hopefully Herdman doesn’t have him see the field; he’s only played in garbage time or meaningful time in garbage games that meant nothing.
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If the Whitecaps exercised his option he would have made $2.8 million next year. Just insane money for someone who was never going to be a fit in Vancouver.
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If he's willing to take a 90% pay-cut, I'd welcome him to our Cavs
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My guess is back to where he came from, LigaMx or somewhere else in central or South America. They’ll pay a lot more than the CPL and his aggressiveness in those leagues are more welcomed.

Whitecaps pro scouts that got suckered in to that club transfer need to be fired.

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