View Poll Results: A simple question. Are you happy with the hiring of Burke?
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YAY!
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NAY!
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09-05-2013, 11:16 AM
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#441
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: City by the Bay
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Originally Posted by trackercowe
^ But he traded up to get Pronger mind you, so in that instance he does deserve credit for making the deal to nab Pronger like he had wanted (same with the Sedin's).
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Didn't know that. Interesting. Thanks.
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09-05-2013, 11:19 AM
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#442
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Vancouver :(
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Called this years ago. It finally happened, couldn't be more happy
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09-05-2013, 11:22 AM
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#443
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Tampa, Florida
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Basically jay feaster is his Secretary
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09-05-2013, 11:35 AM
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#444
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Mike F
Haven't seen it reported in the thread yet... One of the first statements Burke made was "I like big teams. This team is going to get bigger."
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As long as the team gets bigger and we don't trade Gaudreau I am fine with it.
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09-05-2013, 12:15 PM
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#445
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Incredible news.
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09-05-2013, 12:16 PM
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#446
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Originally Posted by Table 5
Your Dungeons and Dragons group doesn't count.
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Blah! it's Magic the Gathering! I'm going to channel-fireball your ass!
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09-05-2013, 12:20 PM
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#447
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by swo2k1
Burke should get more credit for his work in Anaheim. Sure there was some nice pieces there when he took over but Burke is the guy who brought in Chris Pronger. He also signed Scott Niedermayer and Teemu Selanne.
It's not like he just slid in to the GM role and let it all happen.
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Granted, I forgot about Pronger. But Niedermayer had three Cups already and wanted to play with his brother - so much so that he took less in Anaheim than the Devils offered. All Burke did was put his name on the contract on behalf of the team. It was Rob Niedermayer's existence in Anaheim that made it possible. Selanne, likewise, wanted to go back to where he was comfortable after the disaster that was chasing a cup in Denver in 03-04.
In truth though, we can argue how important Burke was or was not until the end of time. He has had some success, otherwise he wouldn't have had a 15-year career as GM of various teams. But he is not, and never has been, a top three GM in the NHL like so many once believed. I wouldn't even put him top ten. But people get dazzled by his arrogance and convince themselves he is better than he really is.
And this is all made worse by the fact that he isn't the GM. So we take that completely overrated track record and me-me-me personality and add what will be a serious case of meddling, and yeah, I'm not a fan.
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09-05-2013, 12:20 PM
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#448
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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I don't mind it at all. Not the biggest Feaster fan, so if someone like Burke is around to keep him in check all the better.
Definitely like Burke talking about having a blueprint and also liking big teams.
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09-05-2013, 12:25 PM
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#449
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Resolute 14
Granted, I forgot about Pronger. But Niedermayer had three Cups already and wanted to play with his brother - so much so that he took less in Anaheim than the Devils offered. All Burke did was put his name on the contract on behalf of the team. It was Rob Niedermayer's existence in Anaheim that made it possible. Selanne, likewise, wanted to go back to where he was comfortable after the disaster that was chasing a cup in Denver in 03-04.
In truth though, we can argue how important Burke was or was not until the end of time. He has had some success, otherwise he wouldn't have had a 15-year career as GM of various teams. But he is not, and never has been, a top three GM in the NHL like so many once believed. I wouldn't even put him top ten. But people get dazzled by his arrogance and convince themselves he is better than he really is.
And this is all made worse by the fact that he isn't the GM. So we take that completely overrated track record and me-me-me personality and add what will be a serious case of meddling, and yeah, I'm not a fan.
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If Burke is not top 10 then what does Feaster rank, bottom 2?
As for the "people get dazzled by his arrogance" comment, could it be that posters that do not like his brash ways do not like to give him credit for the plenty of good things he has done?
I could care less that he is arrogant. I am not going to hang out with him, nor will he want to hang out with me. This sounds like the same reason that some did not mind the Dion return. It seemed many wanted Dion out of Calgary for being a "######" in the bars. If he is a "######" don't have a beer with him.
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09-05-2013, 12:26 PM
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#450
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Franchise Player
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Loubardias likes this move.
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09-05-2013, 12:27 PM
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#451
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Franchise Player
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Very happy with this
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09-05-2013, 12:29 PM
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#452
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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If someone had told me at the beginning of last season that Tortorella would be the Canucks coach and Burke would be with the Flames I would have been down right incredulous!
This is awesome news. Flames will once again have some relevance in the hockey world.
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09-05-2013, 12:31 PM
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#453
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
Late to this party - had forgotten the Flames still operate. Never been a fan of Burke, BUT... I think he brings a lot of what this organization needs. Since Darryl's departure (regardless of what one thought of his GM'ing), the Flames have been prison wives both on and off the ice, and have emerged as a front-runner for the worst franchise in the NHL. Burke's abrasiveness, self-promotion and, yes, competence, will certainly improve our image, and his well-known penchant for "truculent" hockey will certainly be reflected on the ice. I welcome the idea that Calgary might once again become a tough place to play. Plus, love him or hate him, Burke is entertaining and will be a welcome distraction once we are eliminated from playoff contention by early December.
As for Feaster, I am sure he will do whatever it takes to hold on to his last job, but I feel no sympathy for him. He slipped the knife into Dudley in TB and Darryl here, so I shall not shed a tear if/when he departs.
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Excellent post! Fully agree.
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09-05-2013, 12:32 PM
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#454
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
I don't mind it at all. Not the biggest Feaster fan, so if someone like Burke is around to keep him in check all the better.
Definitely like Burke talking about having a blueprint and also liking big teams.
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basically echoes my thoughts.
Burke is an arrogant SOB, no question... but I do have some respect for his hockey acumen...
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09-05-2013, 12:39 PM
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#455
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sweden
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Fan960 talking about the rings in the organization.
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09-05-2013, 12:41 PM
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#456
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Flames New Org Chart Better explained using a Breaking Bad Analogy:
Murray Edwards = CEO of Madrigal
Ken King = Gus Fring
Rollie Cyr = Mike
Brian Burke = Heisinberg / Walter White
Jay Feaster = Jesse
John Weisbrod = Gale Boetticher
Troy Ward = Todd
Craig Conroy = Skinny Pete or Badger
Other Org
Darryl Sutter = Hector Salamanca
Last edited by 1stLand; 09-05-2013 at 01:34 PM.
Reason: added Gale Boetticher as per suggestion
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09-05-2013, 12:42 PM
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#457
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Franchise Player
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I wonder if Burke will have the authority to get rid of the Forever Flames garbage.
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09-05-2013, 12:44 PM
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#458
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1stLand
Flames New Org Chart Better explained using a Breaking Bad Analogy:
Murray Edwards = CEO of Madrigal
Ken King = Gus Fring
Rollie Cyr = Mike
Brian Burke = Heisinberg / Walter White
Jay Feaster = Jesse
Craig Conroy = Skinny Pete or Badger
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LOL Conroy is totally a talking tweeker.
Not sure if you got the order right for Burke and Feaster. I think Jesse survives and White dies at the end of this season. Wouldn't that make Burke, Jesse?
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09-05-2013, 12:44 PM
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#459
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Sweden
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Burke on the FAN right now.
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09-05-2013, 12:47 PM
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#460
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Norm!
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Probably 3 mil
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