Pepsi to remove Aspartame from it's diet products

[btimbit]

All for removing aspartame, it's gross. Pretending it's for health reasons though is funny

[Thor]

Pseudo science wins again! Food babe must be thrilled, and with Chipotle now only offering non GMO products...

[Poe969]

I like this move. I hate aspartame and think the flavour ruins everything in it. It's nice that I'll be able to have a diet pepsi and not want to puke while drinking it.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

The day they screw with the Coke Zero formula is the day I take up arms

I did find out that they aren't carrying it anymore at at least one 7-11! Is this a one-off or is it chain wide?

Because 15 rows of Coke isn't enough, they need the two of Coke Zero for Coke as well.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by photon

I did find out that they aren't carrying it anymore at at least one 7-11! Is this a one-off or is it chain wide?

Because 15 rows of Coke isn't enough, they need the two of Coke Zero for Coke as well.

They likely just ran out of stock. It's standard to fill empty rows with something else until they get more of what's supposed to be there in

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Thor

Pseudo science wins again! Food babe must be thrilled, and with Chipotle now only offering non GMO products...

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[Table 5]

I've yet to drink a diet-cola that I actually like. Coke Zero isn't bad, but just not the same.

At the end of the day though, nothing beats cane sugar. Quality over quantity wins it for me every time...so Id rather have a good drink fewer times, than a diet drink more often...especially since none of it is really good for you anyway.

I wish they would come out with a Coke that uses cane sugar, and less of it than traditionally used. The Diet part would be having less sugar, not just having fake sugar.

[photon]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

They likely just ran out of stock. It's standard to fill empty rows with something else until they get more of what's supposed to be there in

They were actually empty, I asked and she said that she'd been told they were discontinuing it.

Lots of places have stopped carrying Diet Mt. Dew too, places used to carry Diet Brisk Iced Tea too... I guess the stuff just doesn't sell enough.

[CaptainCraig]

Originally Posted by photon

They were actually empty, I asked and she said that she'd been told they were discontinuing it.

Lots of places have stopped carrying Diet Mt. Dew too, places used to carry Diet Brisk Iced Tea too... I guess the stuff just doesn't sell enough.

Its not Dis-continued. Zero is core brand for Coca-Cola. Maybe the manager of the 7/11 decided to not carry it because of sales performance, but that wont last once Coke finds out.

[btimbit]

Yeah there's no way Coke themselves are discontinuing Zero, gotta just be that store

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Thor

Pseudo science wins again! Food babe must be thrilled, and with Chipotle now only offering non GMO products...

I fail to see a problem with this. First of all, they're just meeting a market demand that Whole Foods also attempts to meet. Just simple business as far as I'm concerned.

Secondly, while I don't have any personal paranoia around GMOs and I wouldn't hesitate to eat them, I also remember when DDT was not only considered safe, but essential for adequate food production in the U.S. It took a lot of fight from a small segment of the scientific community a long time to overcome the industrial complex that had a vested interest in maintaining the interest in their product that was obviously damaging and distorting entire ecosystems and eventually harming humans. While there isn't the same sort of damning evidence against GMOs as there was against DDT, it would not shock me to find another ecological or biomedical problem due to them. There are already problems like hybridization with wild strains, changing the genetic makeup of those crops and similar weeds which will then become resistant to herbicide, making them almost impossible to get rid of...and we're back to square one in farming.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...modified-crop/

Science is great, but sometimes we don't recognize the effects of manipulating nature until it's too late. Caution should always be the better part of judgement, but instead we often demonize people wanting to be cautious as backward and anti-progression. I don't blame people for not wanting to eat GMO products for one second. Skepticism is incredibly healthy, and is a vital part of the scientific process, but it must come from a rational and well-reasoned position based on information, and not just conspiracy theory and paranoia.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/ar...crop-research/

Unfortunately, since these GM crops are patented by companies like Monsanto, any researcher has to obtain a license from those companies to even do any studies on the crops, and if you're not going to produce a study favorable to the company, you aren't likely to get that permission. That flies in the face of scientific method, and when so much is on the line with regards to these products, it behooves the public to not consume them until independent studies can be done, which may be never. Until that day, I say use caution.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Thor

Pseudo science wins again! Food babe must be thrilled, and with Chipotle now only offering non GMO products...

Chipotle's Anti-GMO Stance Is Some Anti-Science Pandering Bull####

http://gizmodo.com/chipotles-anti-gm...###-1700437048

Pepsi Removing Aspartame

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org...ing-aspartame/

This move comes in the same week that Chipotle announced it is removing GMO food from its food chain. Unlike Pepsi, who cited only public opinion, Chipotle went one step further and directly cited pseudoscientific fears of GMOs as their justification. (But that’s another story.)

Aspartame is one of the most studied food additives in the world. It has been a common food additive for over 30 years, and there is a strong consensus among scientists and regulatory agencies that it is completely safe.

The fear and conspiracy genie, however, it difficult to put back into the bottle. In an ideal world corporations would stand strong in defense of science vs pseudoscience, but it is understandable that they would cave to popular opinion even when it conflicts with reality. They are in a no-win situation.

I would argue, however, that in the long run capitulating to public fear based on pseudoscience and rumor is a losing strategy. It just makes corporations more vulnerable to the Food Babes of the world, who can use the internet to push buttons of fear, disgust, and conspiracy to demonize any product.

How I Got Converted to G.M.O. Food

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/25/op...food.html?_r=0

I, too, was once in that activist camp. A lifelong environmentalist, I opposed genetically modified foods in the past. Fifteen years ago, I even participated in vandalizing field trials in Britain. Then I changed my mind.

After writing two books on the science of climate change, I decided I could no longer continue taking a pro-science position on global warming and an anti-science position on G.M.O.s.

There is an equivalent level of scientific consensus on both issues, I realized, that climate change is real and genetically modified foods are safe. I could not defend the expert consensus on one issue while opposing it on the other.

[troutman]

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by troutman

Yes, and if we didn't selectively breed for traits in wolves, we wouldn't have dogs either, or any other domesticated animal.

However, selective breeding and hybridizing plants is not the same as splicing genes from fish or bacteria into species that are incredibly dissimilar in many ways. It's a false equivalency.

[Erick Estrada]

I see people at work that drink diet soda every day and I never understood how anyone could like that taste as there's just something artificial and wrong with the aftertaste of aspartame. The one thing about artificial sweeteners is that they can never hide the fact they are artificial as they simply don't taste like a natural sweetener.

[photon]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Yeah there's no way Coke themselves are discontinuing Zero, gotta just be that store

Oh yeah for sure it's not Coke that's doing it, just that store.

Regarding artificial sweeteners, I can't stand the aftertaste of sugar, I can't drink most normal sodas (cane sugar or otherwise). It depends on what one is acclimated to.

[Hemi-Cuda]

I used to be completely anti-aspertame, hated any and all diet drinks. But when I wanted to cut back my calories and tried Coke Zero, I found it close enough to the regular stuff that I didn't mind. Now a couple of years later I can drink Diet Coke with no problem, maybe I've just acquired a taste for it

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

I used to be completely anti-aspertame, hated any and all diet drinks. But when I wanted to cut back my calories and tried Coke Zero, I found it close enough to the regular stuff that I didn't mind. Now a couple of years later I can drink Diet Coke with no problem, maybe I've just acquired a taste for it

+1

At first I thought aspartame tasted like soap. Now, I don't mind the taste, and regular pop tastes sickeningly sweet now.

Zevia is a zero calorie soft drink made without aspartame - you can get it at Safeway.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by troutman

+1

At first I thought aspartame tasted like soap. Now, I don't mind the taste, and regular pop tastes sickeningly sweet now.

Zevia is a zero calorie soft drink made without aspartame - you can get it at Safeway.

It's made with stevia which has its own issues.

[troutman]

What I could find about Stevia:

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org...fe/#more-16107

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20370653

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia