04-17-2013, 11:01 AM
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#21
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Section 120
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We have solid prospects on every line. It's very nice to see.
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04-17-2013, 11:03 AM
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#22
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Voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Actually, the Flames are already mathematically eliminated.
Detroit and Columbus both play Dallas.
There is no mathematical way that one of the three teams doesn't get to 49 points.
Don't mean to be a Debbie Downer or anything, just saying.
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Yup. According to Cammalleri, there were no "must win" games this season.
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04-17-2013, 11:10 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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Quote:
Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
Yup. According to Cammalleri, there were no "must win" games this season.
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Come on. No need to read anything extra into it. He's simply trying to set the stage for the expectation of the team's effort level. I'm sure the playoffs were his goal this year
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04-17-2013, 11:11 AM
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#24
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2002
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Man, I'm loving this new era already. Not only the team itself, but the mood on this board is so positive.. I'm overklempt
This has a Flames win written all over it. 2-1 Kipper special. Although a reverse Kipper special, would be okay too.
Nevertheless, GFG!
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04-17-2013, 11:20 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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Cervenka out and Hanowski in...
I think that pretty much tells you what Hartley thinks of Cervenka. To me, he should be on tryout right now just as much as any of the kids. But clrearly Hartley doesn't agree.
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04-17-2013, 11:27 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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4-2 Red Wings. Another good effort for the Flames though.
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04-17-2013, 11:29 AM
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#27
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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I don't understand this Cervenka hate from Hartley. He seems like a pretty solid player. Maybe he has already indicated to management that he won't re-sign with the Flames in the offseason, so there's no reason to try him out anymore.
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04-17-2013, 11:32 AM
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#28
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by _Q_
I don't understand this Cervenka hate from Hartley. He seems like a pretty solid player. Maybe he has already indicated to management that he won't re-sign with the Flames in the offseason, so there's no reason to try him out anymore.
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He sits at the blue line while his line-mates are all back checking.
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04-17-2013, 11:40 AM
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#29
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist
Come on. No need to read anything extra into it. He's simply trying to set the stage for the expectation of the team's effort level. I'm sure the playoffs were his goal this year
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Yeah, I realized that that post had a tone that came down too hard on what Cammalleri actually said.
Just saying that under the strict definition of a must win game is a game that will officially eliminate you if you lose - the Flames had no such game this season. Monday's loss didn't officially eliminate the Flames, and as of today, they have been officially eliminated.
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04-17-2013, 11:43 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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And of course, Cervenka sits not a fan of it at all.
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04-17-2013, 11:58 AM
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#31
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#1 Goaltender
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Potentially Kipper's last game at the dome? Draft be damned, win us one more Kipper!
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04-17-2013, 12:34 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Cervenka out and Hanowski in...
I think that pretty much tells you what Hartley thinks of Cervenka. To me, he should be on tryout right now just as much as any of the kids. But clrearly Hartley doesn't agree.
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Tryout? Cervenka has played in 35 games. Not sure what some posters see in him? He looks slow, soft and hates playing in his own zone. Every youngster that has been called up has looked better than him.
He has played enough games and had enough practices to see this is how his game will be in the future. The statements in other threads that he will be bigger and faster if he trains hard in the off season, reminds me of posters that thought JBO would have a harder slapshot and better body checker if he worked at it in the summer. This is just the way these players play and more than likely nothing is going to change that.
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04-17-2013, 12:37 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
Tryout? Cervenka has played in 35 games. Not sure what some posters see in him? He looks slow, soft and hates playing in his own zone. Every youngster that has been called up has looked better than him.
He has played enough games and had enough practices to see this is how his game will be in the future. The statements in other threads that he will be bigger and faster if he trains hard in the off season, reminds me of posters that thought JBO would have a harder slapshot and better body checker if he worked at it in the summer. This is just the way these players play and more than likely nothing is going to change that.
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35 games with low minutes for most of them is simply not enough time to fully evaluate a player - especially with all of the added circumstances of this season.
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04-17-2013, 12:49 PM
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#34
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Hartley said Kipper is starting Friday as well, so tonight won't be his last home start.
Also, I'd rather see Cervenka play than Begin.
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04-17-2013, 12:50 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kyuss275
Tryout? Cervenka has played in 35 games. Not sure what some posters see in him? He looks slow, soft and hates playing in his own zone. Every youngster that has been called up has looked better than him.
He has played enough games and had enough practices to see this is how his game will be in the future. The statements in other threads that he will be bigger and faster if he trains hard in the off season, reminds me of posters that thought JBO would have a harder slapshot and better body checker if he worked at it in the summer. This is just the way these players play and more than likely nothing is going to change that.
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I definitely want them to re-sign him for another year.
- new league, new environment, new language, new systems on the ice
- he was injured at the start of the season (and about 2 months prior), so not exactly in game-shape early
- he got no pre-season
- Hartley, at times, used him wrongly IMO
I'd love to give him another shot, this time healthy and with a full pre-season. He he has shown glimpses of his ability, he has really good hands and has nice chemistry with Hudler. If you put a hard-working, two-way center between them (Reinhart, maybe Barkov if drafted), that could be a very nice line.
I don't know, I just have the feeling that if we let him go, he'll light it up somewhere else and we'll regret it. He can be a really effective player if used properly.
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04-17-2013, 12:53 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
35 games with low minutes for most of them is simply not enough time to fully evaluate a player - especially with all of the added circumstances of this season.
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Considering Preseason (if they had one) is only 5 to 8 games to evaluate a player. 35 games is way more than enough for Management to decide if they will try to resign the player.
In my opinion, Flames should not resign him. He does not add anything to a rebuilding club.
Better off having veterans players like Glencross or Tanguay or Stajan or Hudler around the younger players.
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04-17-2013, 12:54 PM
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#37
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
Better off having veterans players like Glencross or Tanguay or Stajan or Hudler around the younger players.
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yeah ... no.
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04-17-2013, 12:56 PM
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#38
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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At this point, I don't see why Cervenka would want to re-sign. He said he was frustrated and mad in that one Czech interview months ago, I doubt anything has changed.
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04-17-2013, 12:56 PM
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#39
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by devo22
yeah ... no.
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Flames need to have a balance of older and younger players.... I would think they will keep Tanguay....
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04-17-2013, 01:01 PM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flambers
Flames need to have a balance of older and younger players.... I would think they will keep Tanguay....
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I agree that they need balance, and I have no problem if they keep Tanguay ... IF he gets his act together. If he continues to float and "mail it in" like he did after the Iginla trade, I want him gone.
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