10-05-2016, 09:09 AM
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#301
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Wouldn't mind if the Flames took at shot at him for no acquisition cost, but his 2.5 cap hit is steep.
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If it's come to waiving him why wouldn't trading for Wideman straight up make sense?
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10-05-2016, 09:09 AM
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#302
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Instead of waivers, they really should trade him for Wideman. Come on Chiarelli. You know you want to!
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10-05-2016, 09:11 AM
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#303
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
If it's come to waiving him why wouldn't trading for Wideman straight up make sense?
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Yeah, something like a salary swap is an option if he passes through waivers. Though I can't see the Oilers wanting to take on the extra 2.75
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10-05-2016, 09:18 AM
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#304
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Wouldn't mind if the Flames took at shot at him for no acquisition cost, but his 2.5 cap hit is steep.
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You simply wouldnt mind? At no acquisition cost?
I'd be over the moon tbh. It wouldnt happen in a million years though...1st overall pick in a position of need to your division rivals. Someone with a lot of untapped offensive potential.
I guess it is Edmonton - they may be that dumb
Is it just me who sees it as crazy or is wideman for yakupov realistic?
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10-05-2016, 09:19 AM
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#305
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bubbsy
How does waiver wire picking order work right now, last year's reverse standings?
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Yes. The Flames have 5th priority (behind Toronto, Edmonton, Vancouver, and Columbus) on any claim until November 1 (after that, it becomes the current standings).
They would have 4th priority on Yakupov because the Oilers couldn't claim him.
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10-05-2016, 09:19 AM
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#306
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Yeah, something like a salary swap is an option if he passes through waivers. Though I can't see the Oilers wanting to take on the extra 2.75
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That and I don't see the Oilers helping out the Flames salary situation. I wouldn't be totally opposed to wideman though.
Would there be interest to swap Yak for Wideman if there is retention on Wideman so the Oilers don't add any salary?
Thats probably the only way it would happen.
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10-05-2016, 09:22 AM
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#307
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Weitz
That and I don't see the Oilers helping out the Flames salary situation. I wouldn't be totally opposed to wideman though.
Would there be interest to swap Yak for Wideman if there is retention on Wideman so the Oilers don't add any salary?
Thats probably the only way it would happen.
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Honestly, I'd still do it, just to free up a defence roster spot, especially if they're for whatever reason, really are gung ho on signing Russell after they get the Gaudreau contract sorted out. Maybe not retain all the difference, but half of it?
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10-05-2016, 09:26 AM
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#308
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crumpy-Gunt
You simply wouldnt mind? At no acquisition cost?
I'd be over the moon tbh. It wouldnt happen in a million years though...1st overall pick in a position of need to your division rivals. Someone with a lot of untapped offensive potential.
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Yeah, wouldn't mind. Think Jiri might be the only posted on CP who dislikes Yakupov more then me.
On paper it fills a massive needs for the Flames but the guy hasn't shown he can be an effective NHL player. He's getting pushed out of Edmonton by Kris Versteeg and an undrafted College free agent. On paper and reality tend to be two very different things.
Last edited by MrMastodonFarm; 10-05-2016 at 09:29 AM.
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10-05-2016, 09:30 AM
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#309
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Flame Country
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I'm fine with us acquiring Yakupov as long as he's not treated like a 1st overall pick. He should be treated like the waiver wire pick-up that he is and have to start at the bottom and work his way up.
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10-05-2016, 09:55 AM
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#310
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Yakupov on waivers would be EPIC!
Has there ever been on a 1st overall that was put on waivers so fast?
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10-05-2016, 09:59 AM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
Yeah, wouldn't mind. Think Jiri might be the only posted on CP who dislikes Yakupov more then me.
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Yeah. I mean I wouldn't mind taking a shot because.
1. He has talent. Not anywhere first overall talent, but some talent
2. No acquisition cost
3. Little downside
But the cap issue is the challenge. For that reason I would pass.
I do think he may end up being the worst 1st overall pick ever.
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10-05-2016, 10:03 AM
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#312
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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I would take him in a second. That's one guy that would really benefit from coaching.
I watched him play a bit last year, and he's got an unreal shot/release. When he's not scoring though he floats around looking lost, which is probably a function of the high calibre coaches going through the turnstile up north. He's soft as hell, and thinks defense means line change on the back check.
He would fill the net if he played with Gaudreau.
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10-05-2016, 10:06 AM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Yes. The Flames have 5th priority (behind Toronto, Edmonton, Vancouver, and Columbus) on any claim until November 1 (after that, it becomes the current standings).
They would have 4th priority on Yakupov because the Oilers couldn't claim him.
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Does anyone think there is a chance he would get past Vancouver?
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10-05-2016, 10:08 AM
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#314
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Does anyone think there is a chance he would get past Vancouver?
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Won't even get past Toronto IMO. They are in the perfect situation to take a flier on a guy like that.
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10-05-2016, 10:10 AM
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#315
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Lethbridge
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
I would take him in a second. That's one guy that would really benefit from coaching.
I watched him play a bit last year, and he's got an unreal shot/release. When he's not scoring though he floats around looking lost, which is probably a function of the high calibre coaches going through the turnstile up north. He's soft as hell, and thinks defense means line change on the back check.
He would fill the net if he played with Gaudreau.
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So he sucks because of the Oiler's 4 previous coaches? Pretty sure his issue is in his head.
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10-05-2016, 10:16 AM
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#316
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Has a quick and fast release but his shot is wildly inaccurate. He just smashes the puck. Someone needs to teach him to play downl-ow more, not be afraid to get in close as often as possible.
This is of course ignoring all the other deficiencies in his game.
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10-05-2016, 10:28 AM
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#317
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mdubz
So he sucks because of the Oiler's 4 previous coaches? Pretty sure his issue is in his head.
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Where did I say he sucks?
He's soft, and has no clue what defense means. Guy needs a change of scenery and a change of coach more than any player in the league IMO.
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10-05-2016, 10:44 AM
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#318
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by mdubz
So he sucks because of the Oiler's 4 previous coaches? Pretty sure his issue is in his head.
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I think the whole coaching ruined the Oilers needs to go. Its another convienient excuse.
Sure Eakins was clearly not ready to be an NHL coach. But Tom Renney was, Pat Quinn was, Ralph Krueger was probably the perfect coach for the Oilers, Todd Nelson, who knows? and T-Mac.
But its the same result, bad/lazy defensive play, me first hockey, blindingly stupid play.
Even with T-Mac last year, the main reason for the improvement in gaa was a better goalie, but that team was still blindingly bad in its own end, and he certainly didn't get a better work ethic out of that team.
Yak hasn't failed because of coaching, he failed because he couldn't live up to being drafted where he was and he was in a normal year a late first rounder early second rounder.
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10-05-2016, 10:46 AM
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#319
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Lifetime Suspension
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I deeply miss Dallas Eakins and his platitudes
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10-05-2016, 10:48 AM
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#320
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm
I deeply miss Dallas Eakins and his platitudes
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Chop Wood, Carry Water!
That was hilarious. They even painted it in the dressing room.
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