Ongoing US Mass Shooting Thread

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Not a mass shooting, just more utter stupidity with guns killing someone for no good reason...



https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-ac...194420254.html

So in a controlled environment this boob can't even control his weapon, perfect argument against the population carrying weapons.


Tit

[Puppet Guy]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Not a mass shooting, just more utter stupidity with guns killing someone for no good reason...



https://www.yahoo.com/news/father-ac...194420254.html

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Tonight in Dallas apparently a sniper was on the 6th floor of a hotel wearing body armour and started shooting at police officers during protests. Reports all over the place but last I saw between 3-6 cops are down, not sure how serious. Sad stuff.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

There is an active shooter situation in Dallas, and three to six officers are reportedly injured, two confirmed shot, during protests in Dallas, according to local news station KDFW. The condition of the officers is not known yet. There are reports of two suspects.
Of the three to six Dallas officers reportedly injured, two have been confirmed shot. One was a Dallas police officer and the second officer was a Dallas Area Rapid Transit officer, KDFW is reporting.

KDFW also reports that police are in negotiations with a second suspect.

Local Fox-affiliate KTVT relayed police commands that the suspect was armed with a rifle in a nearby alley, after previously, the station had reported that at least one suspect was down, following SWAT officers with shields storming a parking garage.

https://www.rt.com/usa/350047-police...allas-protest/

[Acey]

News Update

Chief Brown: sniper shot 10 police, killed 3, 3 in critical, 2 in surgery.

Allegedly 2 shooters from "elevated positions". This is civil war by some definition, surely?

[Acey]

Now 14 shot, 4 dead.

[Robbob]

Where was that reported? Hasn't been reported yet on cnn.

[Acey]

That's via @johnmccaa of WFAA Dallas, trying to see another source for that.

[Lanny_McDonald]

This has been brewing for a long time. Police receive officer safety bulletins anytime there is a credible threat identified in their or neighboring jurisdiction. I know of dozens of bulletins that warned of this exact threat over the past five years. This has been a major concern for law enforcement to the point where it was pretty much acknowledged as an inevitability. It is very sad it has come to this. There are many more good cops than there are bad cops. But the bad get the media coverage and set the tone for the public.

Something to consider is the militarization of the police services in the United States. When presented with a force that looks very much like the bogeyman that the likes of talk radio tell you are coming to put you in FEMA camps, how is the public going to react? Consider the scenario where you have a country that has as many guns as there are people, and many of these gun owners are highly trained ex-military who hold some very different views on the role of government, what is one of the likely outcomes? I mean, what could possibly go wrong? It really is time for the United States to take a step back and disarm. And when I say disarm, I mean disarm everyone, including the police with their tanks and armored personnel carriers. Things are on the verge of getting out of control.

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by New Era

Something to consider is the militarization of the police services in the United States. When presented with a force that looks very much like the bogeyman that the likes of talk radio tell you are coming to put you in FEMA camps, how is the public going to react? Consider the scenario where you have a country that has as many guns as there are people, and many of these gun owners are highly trained ex-military who hold some very different views on the role of government, what is one of the likely outcomes? I mean, what could possibly go wrong? It really is time for the United States to take a step back and disarm. And when I say disarm, I mean disarm everyone, including the police with their tanks and armored personnel carriers. Things are on the verge of getting out of control.

The problem with disarming (and I'm not disagreeing with you that it needs to happen) is the age old question/risk of "who first?"

[foshizzle11]

and chalk up another one.

3 dead in a shooting in a Michigan courthouse today.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nati...icle-1.2707367

[T@T]

What is the NRA saying now that the "good guys" with guns are dropping like flies?

[wittynickname]

Originally Posted by T@T

What is the NRA saying now that the "good guys" with guns are dropping like flies?

All I kept thinking after Dallas, and the guy with the AR-15 who ended up being completely innocent--you never know who is a good guy with a gun or a bad guy with a gun until he starts shooting.

And really--if trained officers can't handle a madman with a weapon, what makes a random Joe off the street think he's a good enough marksman to pull it off?

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

And really--if trained officers can't handle a madman with a weapon, what makes a random Joe off the street think he's a good enough marksman to pull it off?

The NRA has told him for decades by being allowed to pack he's qualified enough.

[taco.vidal]

You think police are highly trained or even undergo a rigorous screening process by many police departments?

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by wittynickname

All I kept thinking after Dallas, and the guy with the AR-15 who ended up being completely innocent--you never know who is a good guy with a gun or a bad guy with a gun until he starts shooting.

And really--if trained officers can't handle a madman with a weapon, what makes a random Joe off the street think he's a good enough marksman to pull it off?

The guy with the AR-15 also ruined the argument that it provides protection.

Protest gets open-fired on. The first thing that the hero with the AR-15 does? Throws it away so he doesn't become a target.

I mean, it was a reasonable decision (as much as reasonable can be attributed to someone walking around with that type of weapon) and I understand the decision. I'm not expecting him to be a hero and get involved in a gunfight and risk his life. But when he recognized the threat, his immediate reaction was realizing that the gun he had strapped to him made him a target, exact opposite of the protection it was suppose to provide.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by taco.vidal

You think police are highly trained or even undergo a rigorous screening process by many police departments?

I don't know about the U.S but here in Canada the answer is yes.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

The guy with the AR-15 also ruined the argument that it provides protection.

Protest gets open-fired on. The first thing that the hero with the AR-15 does? Throws it away so he doesn't become a target.

I mean, it was a reasonable decision (as much as reasonable can be attributed to someone walking around with that type of weapon) and I understand the decision. I'm not expecting him to be a hero and get involved in a gunfight and risk his life. But when he recognized the threat, his immediate reaction was realizing that the gun he had strapped to him made him a target, exact opposite of the protection it was suppose to provide.

He had no ammunition.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

The guy with the AR-15 also ruined the argument that it provides protection.

Protest gets open-fired on. The first thing that the hero with the AR-15 does? Throws it away so he doesn't become a target.

I mean, it was a reasonable decision (as much as reasonable can be attributed to someone walking around with that type of weapon) and I understand the decision. I'm not expecting him to be a hero and get involved in a gunfight and risk his life. But when he recognized the threat, his immediate reaction was realizing that the gun he had strapped to him made him a target, exact opposite of the protection it was suppose to provide.

"The police killed two men today, one they could confirm was the suspect and shooter. He was killed with a bomb detonating explosive. The other man killed was a black male armed with an assault rifle who joined the firefight in what is now believed to have been an attempt to help police. Police were unaware of this fact and fired upon the man as he fit the description of the suspect. A public apology has been issued to his family."

Yeah, definitely should have started shooting.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

Yeah, definitely should have started shooting.

Here's an even better idea. And it's crazy, but hear me out.

DON'T CARRY THAT GUN AROUND LIKE A JACKASS.