Kevin O'Leary's Letter to Premier Notley - Carbon Tax Discussion

[GGG]

Originally Posted by OMG!WTF!

My favorite part is when they said the carbon levy makes things cheaper in BC than the rest of Canada...



Many other factors? Hmmm, like what I wonder?

Since it's revenue neutral it should make things that consume over the median amount of carbon more expensive and things that consume lower than median less expensive.

[Ozy_Flame]

Greg Clark often does shadow budgets, shadow legislation if it isn't in agreement with the current government. It's worth checking out, I love their platform and I voted for them last time. Wish they would get some traction in the voting base though.

[iggy_oi]

Interesting article, I already posted this link in the alberta politics thread but for anyone who missed it

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/s...ster-1.3922367

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Interesting article, I already posted this link in the alberta politics thread but for anyone who missed it

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/s...ster-1.3922367

Ha ha ha. Rather than try to capitalize on extra business they decided to pad their margins by matching the Alberta pricing.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Ha ha ha. Rather than try to capitalize on extra business they decided to pad their margins by matching the Alberta pricing.

Who says they won't get the extra business anyway? I could definitely see people choosing to gas up in the SK side just out of spite to the NDP, even if the cost is the same. Be interesting to see how it works out.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Who says they won't get the extra business anyway? I could definitely see people choosing to gas up in the SK side just out of spite to the NDP, even if the cost is the same. Be interesting to see how it works out.

That's possible although most people if prices the same will go the most convenient route which would be the one closest to your home or work. I just think it's funny that the Sask stations would take that opportunity to gouge citizens that are on the Sask side.

[Wiggum_PI]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

That's possible although most people if prices the same will go the most convenient route which would be the one closest to your home or work. I just think it's funny that the Sask stations would take that opportunity to gouge citizens that are on the Sask side.

I have no problem with it, those awful Rider fans should have to pay more for their gas.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Who says they won't get the extra business anyway? I could definitely see people choosing to gas up in the SK side just out of spite to the NDP, even if the cost is the same. Be interesting to see how it works out.

With the price being the same, I could actually see people going to the gas station that isn't choosing to charge them an extra 4.5 cents per litre.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

With the price being the same, I could actually see people going to the gas station that isn't choosing to charge them an extra 4.5 cents per litre.

What?

The only thing people think about when gassing up if prices are the same is their preferable station brand.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Weitz

What?

The only thing people think about when gassing up if prices are the same is their preferable station brand.

That may be the only thing you think about, but others may feel as though that gas station is overcharging them, and they'd be right in their assessment.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

It seems shortsighted for the Sasky side to charge more, but it is an interesting question: Given the same price, would you prefer to pay the owner the extra 4.5 cent price gouge or the government the extra 4.5 cent gouge?

[Ozy_Flame]

lol this should be fun

[WCan_Kid]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

That's possible although most people if prices the same will go the most convenient route which would be the one closest to your home or work. I just think it's funny that the Sask stations would take that opportunity to gouge citizens that are on the Sask side.

Likely because they're Husky/Esso/Shell/Etc stations on both sides of the border and service stations make way more money from the convenience store than they do off of the pumps. Why would the parent company want to lose the station in Alberta when they can just equalize the gas prices and keep both open? Lloyd is definitely a bit of a special case, in many ways.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

It seems shortsighted for the Sasky side to charge more, but it is an interesting question: Given the same price, would you prefer to pay the owner the extra 4.5 cent price gouge or the government the extra 4.5 cent gouge?

With the Sask side having a 5% PST the stations are actually charging the same amount now. The Sask side of Lloyd had to undercharge for gas previously. Now with a 5 cents a litre carbon tax and the sask pst the cost of Gas should be roughly the same.

The price of gas historically (pre-carbon tax) between Calgary and Saskatoon has been a 5 to 10 cent spread which would be due to taxation costs.

So the Sask side isn't gouging.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by GGG

With the Sask side having a 5% PST the stations are actually charging the same amount now. The Sask side of Lloyd had to undercharge for gas previously. Now with a 5 cents a litre carbon tax and the sask pst the cost of Gas should be roughly the same.

The price of gas historically (pre-carbon tax) between Calgary and Saskatoon has been a 5 to 10 cent spread which would be due to taxation costs.

So the Sask side isn't gouging.

Actually Sask, BC and Manitoba don't charge PST on gas or diesel. BC however makes up for it by a 7% carbon tax on gas.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

It seems shortsighted for the Sasky side to charge more, but it is an interesting question: Given the same price, would you prefer to pay the owner the extra 4.5 cent price gouge or the government the extra 4.5 cent gouge?

I think its partly a "for the greater good decision" in that if one side of the city isnt able to compete with the other side of the city because of a short-sighted and very poorly implemeted tax scheme by one side, they are just trying to save jobs etc for them.

Additionally, and of course, the extra revenue angle sure doesn't hurt.

Pretty unique situation in Lloyd of course that doesnt apply anywhere else.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by belsarius

Actually Sask, BC and Manitoba don't charge PST on gas or diesel. BC however makes up for it by a 7% carbon tax on gas.

Sask charges a 15 cents a liter gas tax. Total tax in Alberta is 17.5 cents post carbon tax so my point roughly still stands.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by GGG

Sask charges a 15 cents a liter gas tax. Total tax in Alberta is 17.5 cents post carbon tax so my point roughly still stands.

They are still charging more than they need to, but they are free to charge however much they'd like.

[OMG!WTF!]

Schools are going to take a beating....

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Why are these numbers always leaked to the Wildrose and never just released by the NDP?

[Fuzz]

They should just put on a sweater and buy new furnaces and windows.