2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Sandman]

Second intermission of the gold-medal game, a reporter asks Eiserman, "take us through the play, and the set-up from Cole Hutson".

Eiserman responds,"yeah, I mean it's a 1-1 game, a lot of nerves, looked like it wasn't going in for me, and then Hutty makes an unreal play on that 2-on-1 and um, I just tried to do what Cole Eiserman does, and put it in the back of the net, so.."

His goal put him first all-time in goals for the NTDP, moving ahead of Caufield, and when he put it in, he celebrated for himself, and not his team. Maybe I'm too old school, and he is just a kid, but I think he's cocky and self-centered.

[Sandman]

Draft Thoughts (U-18 Edition, Vol.6):

There's a video on the internet depicting Swedish LHC Mans Toresson judo-flipping U-18 teammate Jack Berglund in J20 league play during a scrum. Toresson is a well-rounded forward with some grit and toughness, and can play all three forward positions. The Swedes took home the bronze with a 4-0 win over the surprising Slovaks in the U-18's, and Toresson wound up with no points in 7 games with limited ice-time and opportunity- but his game isn't about offense anyway. At last summer's Hlinka Gretzky Cup, he wore the "A" for Team Sweden, but only picked up a goal in 4 games, and produced a mere 11 points in 37 games for Frolunda J20 in league play this season, to go with 41 penalty-minutes. The 6'1",185lb forward did impress in the J20 playoffs though, with 3 goals and 4 points in 6 games.

Toresson is first and foremost a shutdown player with a potent defensive game, and supreme IQ and hockey sense in his own end. He's a superb penalty-killer with his speed and long wingspan, and is always flying in the face of puck-carriers to limit time and space, while causing mistakes and turnovers. He's fearless in blocking shots, and will help his D down low, with physicality. Toresson is an excellent skater with a powerful stride who can cover a long distance in a short time, win races to loose pucks, and cut off large portions of ice to attackers. He exerts energy and pace in his skating, and keeps his legs pumping. He's hard working, competitive, and a bit mean- he's stronger than his frame, and has an extra-long reach. He uses his physical attributes well to win battles, and plays a heavy game, finishing all of his checks. He plays with a high work-ethic, gives his team jump, and participates in all the scrums, coming to the aid of his teammates. On the forecheck, he's tenacious and physical to cause havok, and can close distances fast on opponents to smother them, sometimes with a thunderous bodycheck.

Toresson's IQ is helpful to him in all areas, and has the spatial awareness to find the soft spots in the offensive zone, but there's not much offensive upside here at this point. He will go to the net to cause havok, screen the goalie, and perhaps clean up garbage around the crease. He's not supremely skilled with the puck, and outside of the defensive zone, he doesn't do anything special- his shot is average, and he doesn't display any true playmaking ability. He can make simple, risk-free plays with crisp accurate passes, but anything high-end only comes in flashes- he doesn't hold on to the puck for very long, and relies on quick touches. In transition, he can contribute by supporting the rush in skating smart routes to stay open for passing plays, and displays some moves and deception to get through traffic, along with protection skills. Toresson might be left out of the draft due to his limited ceiling, and if he does get picked, it won't be until the late rounds. If he makes it to the NHL, it will be most likely in the role of a bottom-6 player with grit, speed, and physicality, who gets time on the penalty kill. Toresson needs to round out his skill set and develop a better offensive game, but he was noticeable at the U-18's.

[Wastedyouth]

Tij Iginla showed in crunch time, he's gonna do the hard work to make sure that a team wins.

Two of McKennas come back goals wouldn't have happened without Iginla making the primary pass after retrieving the puck from the opposing player.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Tij Iginla showed in crunch time, he's gonna do the hard work to make sure that a team wins.

Two of McKennas come back goals wouldn't have happened without Iginla making the primary pass after retrieving the puck from the opposing player.

It’s like Iggy doing the hard work to set up Crosby for the golden goal. Time is a flat circle

[Bingo]

https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/20...infuriate-fans

Ranking of lottery winner annoyance

[1qqaaz]

Any team that has ever won a draft lottery can't complain about the lottery.

[Bingo]

Scott Wheeler updates his top 32 after the U18s.

Iginla up three spots to 12
Buium up to 4th

New weighted top 15

1	Celebrini	C	1.00
2	Demidov	RW	2.88
3	Levshunov	D	4.47
4	Dickinson	D	6.29
5	Catton	C	7.12
6	Lindstrom	C	7.12
7	Buium	D	7.65
8	Silayev	D	8.18
9	Parekh	D	9.35
10	Eiserman	LW	10.12
11	Helenius	C	10.59
12	Iginla	C	12.24
13	Yakemchuk	D	12.41
14	Greentree	RW	13.71
15	Brandsegg-Nygard	RW	15.65

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

It’s like Iggy doing the hard work to set up Crosby for the golden goal. Time is a flat circle

All circles are flat, Rust.

[FlamesAreOne]

Someone make a lottery thread! It's tomorrow already.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Scott Wheeler updates his top 32 after the U18s.

Iginla up three spots to 12
Buium up to 4th

New weighted top 15

1	Celebrini	C	1.00
2	Demidov	RW	2.88
3	Levshunov	D	4.47
4	Dickinson	D	6.29
5	Catton	C	7.12
6	Lindstrom	C	7.12
7	Buium	D	7.65
8	Silayev	D	8.18
9	Parekh	D	9.35
10	Eiserman	LW	10.12
11	Helenius	C	10.59
12	Iginla	C	12.24
13	Yakemchuk	D	12.41
14	Greentree	RW	13.71
15	Brandsegg-Nygard	RW	15.65

A couple of 'do not want' players in that top-12, straddling our #9 spot.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

All circles are flat, Rust.

The puck is also a flat circle.

[shutout]

Originally Posted by Tbull8

Time is a flat circle

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

All circles are flat, Rust.

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

The puck is also a flat circle.

Therefore: Time is a Puck

[Nadal Fan]

My understanding is that you could only move up in the draft lottery twice in a 5 year span, so if say Chicago and Montreal move up this year they would be ineligible to move up in the McKenna draft. So would that increase the Flames chances of drafting him, assuming we are in that draft lottery of 2026?

[YyjFlames]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Scott Wheeler updates his top 32 after the U18s.

Iginla up three spots to 12
Buium up to 4th

New weighted top 15

1	Celebrini	C	1.00
2	Demidov	RW	2.88
3	Levshunov	D	4.47
4	Dickinson	D	6.29
5	Catton	C	7.12
6	Lindstrom	C	7.12
7	Buium	D	7.65
8	Silayev	D	8.18
9	Parekh	D	9.35
10	Eiserman	LW	10.12
11	Helenius	C	10.59
12	Iginla	C	12.24
13	Yakemchuk	D	12.41
14	Greentree	RW	13.71
15	Brandsegg-Nygard	RW	15.65

McKenzie releasing a top 15 today. His will be especially interesting.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1787463203087077862

Fun teaser:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1787488904532103541

[Bingo]

I found it interesting that Wheeler only moved Iginla from 15 to 12 given his performance at the U18s.

Makes me wonder if we are over estimating his recent rise, and under estimating the chances of him being available at 9

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I found it interesting that Wheeler only moved Iginla from 15 to 12 given his performance at the U18s.

I think his performance at the U18's is being a bit overblown here. I mean I haven't seen anyone really pumping tires on his performance (Wheeler himself referenced his performance as "not dominant like some had hoped but impactful"... which I would basically call measured praise). One U18 tournament probably won't move the needle a great deal.

[dammage79]

See now this is why all this Iggy stuff kinda has me hoping the Flames don't take him even if he's there.

Fan stuff is already out of wack and they haven't even drafted him yet.

Feels forced honestly.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bingo

I found it interesting that Wheeler only moved Iginla from 15 to 12 given his performance at the U18s.

Makes me wonder if we are over estimating his recent rise, and under estimating the chances of him being available at 9

He mentions in the article that scouts may not be as sold on him as the public. I imagine a lot of the teams in the 1-7 area are more fixated on the usual suspects and there's a probably a high probability that he's available at 9. Still as always it only takes one team that really likes him to change everything.

Some NHL scouts may not be as sold on him as many in the public sphere are, and he didn’t dominate at U18s like some hoped he would (though he was impactful), but he’s got a ton of tools and they’ve come along at an exciting rate.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by dammage79

See now this is why all this Iggy stuff kinda has me hoping the Flames don't take him even if he's there.

Fan stuff is already out of wack and they haven't even drafted him yet.

Feels forced honestly.

Very dumb take. And you normally don't make them!

Just watch the highlights from the U18s. There's no way this kid is there at 9 and if he is Conroy should be ####ting himself in happiness.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Very dumb take. And you normally don't make them!

Just watch the highlights from the U18s. There's no way this kid is there at 9 and if he is Conroy should be ####ting himself in happiness.

I've seen them!

And I hope he goes before 9. Really, I do.