11-08-2013, 05:37 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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does this teams management really feel like 1 off-season is a good rebuild?
The team seems to have been in win-now mode the entire time, dating back to drafting Monohan (We need a player who can play in the NHL next season)... why?
Cant we suck for 2-5 years and then go into win-now mode?
Very frustrating that they would make a short-sighted move to bandage the Giordano injury when we could have promoted from within.
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11-08-2013, 05:38 PM
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#242
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CedarMeter
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They are calling Brossoit our "best goaltending prospect". Poor Oil fans in denial.
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11-08-2013, 05:38 PM
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Franchise Player
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The Flames have at least a dozen forwards that are as good or better than Horak.
Hanowski, Agostino, Arnold, Knight, Colborne, Baertschi, Monahan, Poirier, Klimchuk, Jankowski, Gaudreau, and Granlund
So on that aspect, we didn't really lose all that much.
In addition, we have Berra who looks solid, Ortio that's performing well, and Gillies who's tearing up the NCAA. Add in getting Roy, who's not all that bad either and it's a very good trade.
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11-08-2013, 05:38 PM
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First Line Centre
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Brossoit was behind Gilles, Ramo, Berra and Ortio. Horak fell behind Backlund, Monahan, Colborne, Bouma, Knight, Reinhart etc
We as Flames fans might be a fan of the players but they're easily expendable, and this trade makes the Flames better and the Oilers much worse
I like it
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11-08-2013, 05:39 PM
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#245
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanda
does this teams management really feel like 1 off-season is a good rebuild?
The team seems to have been in win-now mode the entire time, dating back to drafting Monohan (We need a player who can play in the NHL next season)... why?
Cant we suck for 2-5 years and then go into win-now mode?
Very frustrating that they would make a short-sighted move to bandage the Giordano injury when we could have promoted from within.
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Just look north to see how that plan worked. There is nothing wrong with rebuilding and also trying to be a competitive hockey team. Smid is 27, not 34. The Flames gave up Horak and Broissot, two guys I like but it's not a 1st and Baertschi,
Go look at that Feater quote about Monahan again, please.
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11-08-2013, 05:39 PM
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#246
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Really like this. Horak was a tough fit here and we have Gillies, Ortio, Berra as the goalies in our system.
Smid is solid
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11-08-2013, 05:39 PM
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#247
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanda
does this teams management really feel like 1 off-season is a good rebuild?
The team seems to have been in win-now mode the entire time, dating back to drafting Monohan (We need a player who can play in the NHL next season)... why?
Cant we suck for 2-5 years and then go into win-now mode?
Very frustrating that they would make a short-sighted move to bandage the Giordano injury when we could have promoted from within.
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This move has nothing to do with win-now mode..lol
Trading a couple of other depth prospects for a top 4 d-man signed for three more years at a reasonable 3.5 million is a great move.
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11-08-2013, 05:40 PM
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#248
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by StrykerSteve
I've got nothing against Smid, he's a good defenceman. This just feels like it came out of nowhere, I would have never expected Brossoit to be traded.... and to the Oilers no less.
Crazy.
Good deal for the Flames though, Smid makes them better than they were yesterday.
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Given our goaltending depth of Berra, Ramo, Ortio, Gillies, its not a shock he got traded. Its fitting he got traded to Edmonton considering he played his entire WHL career there, quite successfully I might add.
But yes I agree its good for the Flames..
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11-08-2013, 05:40 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Saw news on TSN site, came here to gauge horror of it all
thread already to 13 pages nuff said
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11-08-2013, 05:40 PM
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NOT a cool kid
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanda
does this teams management really feel like 1 off-season is a good rebuild?
The team seems to have been in win-now mode the entire time, dating back to drafting Monohan (We need a player who can play in the NHL next season)... why?
Cant we suck for 2-5 years and then go into win-now mode?
Very frustrating that they would make a short-sighted move to bandage the Giordano injury when we could have promoted from within.
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Why do we have to suck for 2-5 years
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11-08-2013, 05:41 PM
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#251
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#1 Goaltender
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11-08-2013, 05:41 PM
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#252
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Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Not sure why Flames fans be mad. Smid is the best d-man on the Oilers and a fine 4th on any team. I think they stole this deal and I like Horak a little.
I actually think the Oilers got quite a bit worse... they traded their best d-man and signed Bryzgalov... Bryzgalov has already shown he's not a top guy behind even better d-men.
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11-08-2013, 05:41 PM
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#253
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TKB
Maybe I should of worded it differently for you then. Anytime Smid was talked about on CP most people would say how terrible he was. Does this make you feel better?
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When he signed his extension earlier this year:
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...highlight=smid
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Originally Posted by kyuss275
Thats not a bad signing. I don't like it because the Oilers have done something right for a change. Hope this does not become a trend for the Oilers.
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Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
Love this signing at the price. I thought he might get $4 million. Smid is better than you folks give him credit for.
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Pretty solid deal for both sides. Oiler fans must like this one.
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Originally Posted by AR_Six
Pretty good deal I think - I would expect he's worth a touch more, maybe ~4M, on the market. Decent second pairing defenseman.
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Thread was filled with Calgary fans saying the Oilers did something right, maybe happens once every 25 years. You couldn't be more wrong about your assessment really.
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11-08-2013, 05:41 PM
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#254
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Powerplay Quarterback
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First of all, condolences are in order to the Horak and Brossoit families. Words cannot even begin to express our sorrow, you are in our prayers.
As for the asylum run amok in the Edmonton front office, all you can do is laugh.
Not a giggle, mind you. Not a chuckle. Not even a deep-belly "Har, har, har"!
No, the sort of laughter I'm talking about is the falling off your chair screaming maniacally and pounding on the floor for several minutes till your sides hurt and you are dehydrated from the tears kind of laughter.
The sort of laughter that left the Joker's hair green.
How could any GM in his right mind, weaken his defence to make cap room for one of the greatest headcases to ever play between the pipes.
Never change, Kevin Lowe!
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11-08-2013, 05:41 PM
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#255
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanda
does this teams management really feel like 1 off-season is a good rebuild?
The team seems to have been in win-now mode the entire time, dating back to drafting Monohan (We need a player who can play in the NHL next season)... why?
Cant we suck for 2-5 years and then go into win-now mode?
Very frustrating that they would make a short-sighted move to bandage the Giordano injury when we could have promoted from within.
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Ladislav Smid isn't a 'win now' move; an opportunity presented itself to acquire a young, top-4 defender who's under contract at a good number for another three years for two long shot prospects; a goalie and the 7th rated center in the organization.
Rebuild doesn't mean 'be as crappy as possible'. The team should always be looking to improve. This trade makes them better. The best player is coming to Calgary. We win.
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11-08-2013, 05:42 PM
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#256
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanda
does this teams management really feel like 1 off-season is a good rebuild?
The team seems to have been in win-now mode the entire time, dating back to drafting Monohan (We need a player who can play in the NHL next season)... why?
Cant we suck for 2-5 years and then go into win-now mode?
Very frustrating that they would make a short-sighted move to bandage the Giordano injury when we could have promoted from within.
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Yeah, we should just suck for 2-5 years and then magically become awesome. Seems to be working out great for those guys up north who, seven years into their rebuild, just panicked and traded a 27 year old shutdown dman (arguably their best dman) to their archrivals for pennies on the dollar.
Solid.
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11-08-2013, 05:42 PM
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#257
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Great trade! Just... awesome.
I liked Horak too - he's an NHL player who never got an appropriate shot here. But adding a bit of size on the backend is way more important.
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11-08-2013, 05:43 PM
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#258
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11-08-2013, 05:43 PM
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#259
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Olivier Roy will be an easy guy to dump in Alaska to ensure more playing time for Ortio. His RFA status is nice as it opens up room for Gillies next year if he turns pro. I think taking Roy was a favour to the Oilers to get rid of a contract and open up a goalie roster spot for Broissoit. I'd be shocked if Roy lasts longer than the season with the Flames. His stats are nothing to write home about : http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...php?pid=106601
Also losing Smid and acquiring Horak makes the smurfy Oilers even smaller.
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11-08-2013, 05:43 PM
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#260
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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How would you pair the Ds?
Let's assume one with Gio healthy and one without... let's hear it!
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