Tij Iginla ranked No. 10 overall by Bob McKenzie for 2024 NHL Draft

[D as in David]

I wish posters used "earlier and later" instead of "higher and lower" when describing relative draft positions.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by fotze2

They absolutely do. The WHL teams send out questionnaires and you have to put your shoe size and parent size on them. If the mom is Venus Williams the scouts panties get moist.

Venus doesn't even have children

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

On the other hand, those fans who bitch and moan will proclaim Tij a bust the moment he's drafted, just so they can say they hated him before it was cool.

It's a hipster thing.

I can already read Dino bashing Tij constantly if he goes anywhere else.
For the sake of not having to suffer that on CP alone, please draft Iggy.

[traptor]

As long as the flames don't go way off the board and grab one of the guys commonly listed in the top 12 or so I'll be happy.

I do think the flames need get a player with 1c/top pairing D potential, but more then that they need to draft for ceiling.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

Expectations are not nearly as high for Josh Doan than for Tij. I think that's the biggest difference. You're drafting Iggy with a top 10 pick with almost an expectation that he turns into a franchise winger like his dad, in the market where his dad was an icon. No one's putting those kinds of expectations on Josh Doan. That's a lot of pressure.

It’s the closest example I can think of. Well since Mark Howe.

Doan was 37OA which is almost first round and plays for his dad’s old club.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

Expectations are not nearly as high for Josh Doan than for Tij. I think that's the biggest difference. You're drafting Iggy with a top 10 pick with almost an expectation that he turns into a franchise winger like his dad, in the market where his dad was an icon. No one's putting those kinds of expectations on Josh Doan. That's a lot of pressure.

Josh Doan was drafted at #37. Shows that other teams didn't just act like jerks for no reason to take him off the board or extort something out of Arizona.

That being said Doan was playing in the NCAA and could just force his way onto the Coyotes, if he really wanted to.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Interestingly Doan was also an over-ager when drafted.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Interestingly Doan was also an over-ager when drafted.

So he went undrafted in his first year of eligibility, and went in the second round the following year? That doesn't sound like a situation where he would be under undue pressure to live up to his family name.

Taking Tij Iginla with a top-10 pick in his first year of eligibility is a very different situation.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

So he went undrafted in his first year of eligibility, and went in the second round the following year? That doesn't sound like a situation where he would be under undue pressure to live up to his family name.

Taking Tij Iginla with a top-10 pick in his first year of eligibility is a very different situation.

Yeah exactly. Doan wasn't thought much of in his first year of eligibility. His production jumped from 5 goals and 14 points to 31 goals and 70 points between his first and second years of eligibility. I don't think he was on the radar at all for the first year.

So indeed a very different type of situation.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

I can already read Dino bashing Tij constantly if he goes anywhere else.
For the sake of not having to suffer that on CP alone, please draft Iggy.

I can already read the handful of posters that will be bashing Tij constantly unless he outperforms his father because everything the Flames do is terrible. But to be fair, they'll do that over whoever is drafted.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Yeah exactly. Doan wasn't thought much of in his first year of eligibility. His production jumped from 5 goals and 14 points to 31 goals and 70 points between his first and second years of eligibility. I don't think he was on the radar at all for the first year.

So indeed a very different type of situation.

To add, Shane Doan was a great player and is a great person. But comparing him to Iginla is an insult to Jarome. So his son living up to his legacy is not remotely the same. And not to bash Arizona, but that hockey market is not Calgary. It might be equal to a neighborhood in Calgary.

Shane Doan =/= Iginla
Arizona =/= Calgary

The situations are not at all similar other than son playing for Dad's team.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Groot

To add, Shane Doan was a great player and is a great person. But comparing him to Iginla is an insult to Jarome. So his son living up to his legacy is not remotely the same. And not to bash Arizona, but that hockey market is not Calgary. It might be equal to a neighborhood in Calgary.

Shane Doan =/= Iginla
Arizona =/= Calgary

The situations are not at all similar other than son playing for Dad's team.

Name a closer situation. It’s the only one I can think of.

I think people underestimate what Doan is to that franchise though.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Not a draft expert and never claimed to be but the way Tij Iginla is rising late in the season, and watching him play makes me think he's going to be a star player. No guarantee and still lots of work to do but I absolutely love him as a prospect, with or without the last name.

His ability to find room, to know where to go and be open then get off a quick shot is high level, one of the best shots in the draft. Fantastic abilities in the offensive zone as well, great at creating his own space via his edge work and also great acceleration when carrying the puck. His passing ability is underrated too. Iginla isn't going to wow with his insane passes but what makes him a good passer is his puck handling and ability to hold onto the puck. He's really good in the offensive zone and controlling the play and finding open guys, he's really patient.

The thing he has to work on, and I'm stealing a bit from various scouting reports are; defence, strength and his skating. All things that can be worked on and maybe this is where I'm giving credit to his last name but from watching his dad and seeing interviews with Tij this isn't a kid who's going to stop working at any point soon. Also a small point is his late birth year. August 1st. He still has lots of development compared to guys born late September - January in the 2024 draft

Like I said.. potential star.

His skating is fine. I think people get all knit-picky about skating and how players like JayBo and Hanifin are so smooth and all. Then, you see them get beat inside out by guys like Crosby or even Draisaitl (cough, who isn't a very good skater). Defence and strength - yup and I think everyone that is drafted and starts playing needs to work on that regardless unless if you're McDrai and you're branded as superstars of all superstars, then, you can float around the ice all you want without ever playing defensive hockey for the rest of their careers.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by Groot

I can already read the handful of posters that will be bashing Tij constantly unless he outperforms his father because everything the Flames do is terrible. But to be fair, they'll do that over whoever is drafted.

Nah, fans are smarter than that. The fans mainly just want players who work hard and wants to be here. From the looks of it he has some of the same tools as his dad, so definitely he's going to score some goals for us. Nobody's expecting them to put up forty goal seasons. From what I've seen of him he looks very focused, so he has a bit of a dominant personality.

We need some characters with leadership qualities, if he doesn't put up the numbers I bet you he's going to be a solid contributor that has had the opportunity growing up to hang around NHL players. Conroy alluded to this a little bit when he was talking about having seen him play.

I think the whole pressure thing is overrated. Look how many draft picks go number 1, and then have to live up to the pressures in the cities that they play in. The Flames will pick the best player available most likely, but it appears that Tij has earned the right to be drafted in the top 10. The fact that he's risen as quickly as he has it's a big accomplishment; The kid appears to have some of the same tools as his dad. Good for him I bet his dad is proud, and believe he will live up to the same NHL pressures as any of the other picks.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Name a closer situation. It’s the only one I can think of.

I think people underestimate what Doan is to that franchise though.

You're right it is the "closest" but that's because it's not common that a hall of fame player has a top prospect son, potentially right in the draft range of the team that his Dad played for. And Doan means alot to Arizona, but to say it's a wildly different hickey market is an understatement.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Groot

You're right it is the "closest" but that's because it's not common that a hall of fame player has a top prospect son, potentially right in the draft range of the team that his Dad played for. And Doan means alot to Arizona, but to say it's a wildly different hickey market is an understatement.

I have no idea about this.

[kipperiggy]

Didn't Conroy say they wanted to avoid the Dave/Adam Lowry situation where they didn't want to draft him because Dad played here and they ended up regretting it? So if Tij is BPA I think they pick him. If he's not, they don't.

[Groot]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I have no idea about this.

College crowd...or autocorrect failed me lol

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

When I meant 10 or above I meant drafting at 10 or later than 10. I think 10 is about as high as I can see Iginla going. Most draft guys have him between 12-16.

Ohhhhh... Yeah that makes sense now. I was stuck in this weird loop for a bit there, lol.

[Red_Baron]

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