2022 Freedumb Convoy(s) Thread

[Misterpants]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Yeah, good point about him not defending what he says, which shows bad faith.

So we have a guy posting lies and misinformation disingenuously. What's a board to do with that? Glad I'm not a mod.

He should have a custom user title that mimics what twitter used to do. "This poster frequently posts misleading, misguided and generally moronic information. Please refer to CP's more rational users for additional information."

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Misterpants

He should have a custom user title that mimics what twitter used to do. "This poster frequently posts misleading, misguided and generally moronic information. Please refer to CP's more rational users for additional information."

Maybe they get a dunce cap avatar.

[Muta]

Yeah he's probably as Ozy put it - a first-generation, buggy AI chatbot. Shows all the hallmarks of one. And if he's not, he's definitely here to get orgasmic pleasure from his drive-by ####-posting / trolling.

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by Slava

The CBE sent out stats today for the percentage of kids sick by school. My kids school is at ~8% which doesn’t seem worrying. The big percentages are in the elementary schools. I have no idea what a baseline would be, so it’s all kind of meaningless without context.

10% is considered outbreak status. So....you are right at the borderline.

My kids school is at 12% and my wife's is around 9%. At that level the number of sick teachers and lack of substitutes has the schools close to going to online learning.

I don't think people are fully appreciating how stressed out the education system is right now after 2.5 years of the pandemic and inept UCP leadership from LaGrange.

There is a drastic need for increased teaching support.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

For the record, people who wear masks in Asia, it's not always just to prevent catching something. It's to protect others because the mask-wearer is sick or has an issue. It's about protecting others as much as yourself.

And if you are one of those who think masks are ineffective (and there's some validity to that based on type of mask), consider that even low protection is better than no protection.

I still think this is one of the biggest fallacies about Asia before Covid. People wore masks there, but it wasn't anywhere near a majority of people. I also think that where I saw the most mask usage was due to pollution and not because of illness at all.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by IliketoPuck

10% is considered outbreak status. So....you are right at the borderline.

My kids school is at 12% and my wife's is around 9%. At that level the number of sick teachers and lack of substitutes has the schools close to going to online learning.

I don't think people are fully appreciating how stressed out the education system is right now after 2.5 years of the pandemic and inept UCP leadership from LaGrange.

There is a drastic need for increased teaching support.

Yeah, I think that the teachers/substitutes is where the main issue is. I'm not entirely sure what could be done about that though? After watching my kids go through online learning during Covid I feel like that was great for the not getting sick aspect, and horrible for the socialization and even actual learning aspect.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Muta

Yeah he's probably as Ozy put it - a first-generation, buggy AI chatbot. Shows all the hallmarks of one. And if he's not, he's definitely here to get orgasmic pleasure from his drive-by ####-posting / trolling.

If you can’t see the hypocrisy it’s on you at this point.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1593605899926618115

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Slava

I still think this is one of the biggest fallacies about Asia before Covid. People wore masks there, but it wasn't anywhere near a majority of people. I also think that where I saw the most mask usage was due to pollution and not because of illness at all.

Why is this a fallacy? As I said, some people who are sick wear masks. They cough - on the train - into a mask. Others wear them to prevent airborne viruses and general illness.

If someone is sick, how is it a fallacy for them to do something to protect you?

This isn't a fallacy. It's just cultural.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Yoho

If you can’t see the hypocrisy it’s on you at this point.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1593605899926618115

This isn’t hypocrisy.

A government employee who’s job it is to make health recommendations for the general public, and then doing so, is not claiming moral superiority over anyone. You’ll note there was nothing mandated.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by Yoho

If you can’t see the hypocrisy it’s on you at this point.

Hypocrisy has nothing to do with the efficacy of masks. If you can't see that, then that's on you at this point.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

This isn’t hypocrisy.

A government employee who’s job it is to make health recommendations for the general public, and then doing so, is not claiming moral superiority over anyone. You’ll note there was nothing mandated.

True, but it is pretty weak leadership. Not following your own "strong recommendation" is setting a poor example.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Sliver

True, but it is pretty weak leadership. Not following your own "strong recommendation" is setting a poor example.

Well Ontario has arguably worse leadership than AB right now. No debate there. It’s just a pathetic thing to wave around as some sort or argument. Unless your argument is just that our government sucks and has no accountability. It’s certainly not an indictment on the efficacy of masks.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

This isn’t hypocrisy.

A government employee who’s job it is to make health recommendations for the general public, and then doing so, is not claiming moral superiority over anyone. You’ll note there was nothing mandated.

Also, you have no idea what controls were placed on attendance. It looks like a very small private gathering by the video and not some big public event. Dumb article is dumb as is the poster who brought it to the table.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Yoho

If you can’t see the hypocrisy it’s on you at this point.

I think that just proves the point that human nature will override common sense, and why they need to be mandated, as many have said here that they don't wear them, but if they were told to, they would.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Well Ontario has arguably worse leadership than AB right now.

TBH as a former Albertan and now Ontarian, I'm taking Doug over Danielle all day, every day. That pimple is the lesser of two pimples IMO.

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Also, you have no idea what controls were placed on attendance. It looks like a very small private gathering by the video and not some big public event. Dumb article is dumb as is the poster who brought it to the table.

I don't care either way really, but this definitely is not a very small private gathering lol.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

TBH as a former Albertan and now Ontarian, I'm taking Doug over Danielle all day, every day. That pimple is the lesser of two pimples IMO.

Openly stupid vs. Quietly sinister. Nobody is winning.

[Tron_fdc]

Imagine the freedom of recommending masks and then not following your own recommendation

Imagine. Freedom of choice.

My daughter calls this big brain thought.

[JohnnyB]

Originally Posted by Yoho

If you wanted to put a bag over your head I’m all for it, but stop trying to force others to do what you think is noble . I dont want to live like you.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1593434020129701890

I hate this politicizing of masks. As someone who just had the poor luck of having an immune system with an extreme response to covid, I'm masked up any time I go indoors somewhere public and what's much worse than the inconvenience of wearing a mask is the people with eye rolls or looks that suggest they're fed up with people like me or that I'm crazy and part of some political conspiracy when it's actually just a personal health decision in response to circumstances out of my control.

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by JohnnyB

I hate this politicizing of masks. As someone who just had the poor luck of having an immune system with an extreme response to covid, I'm masked up any time I go indoors somewhere public and what's much worse than the inconvenience of wearing a mask is the people with eye rolls or looks that suggest they're fed up with people like me or that I'm crazy and part of some political conspiracy when it's actually just a personal health decision in response to circumstances out of my control.

It's certainly depressing that public health has become this wedge political issue. There's almost no hope for us if a pandemic worse than COVID hits in the next few years. Also, I have a pretty big fear that childhood vaccine rates are going to be a victim of this as well, and there will be significant outbreaks of all those long forgotten diseases.