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Old 04-27-2024, 10:33 PM   #1441
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Oh 100%. We went half way because the first half was cheap and the second half was expensive, and that will have devastating human and financial consequences, in the end.
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Old 04-27-2024, 10:38 PM   #1442
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Yeah I didn’t: don’t mean it like that. I agree the deaths are not entirely attributable to decriminalization. I just reported the stat that CBC used in their article and I do think those deaths are more numerous with decriminalization.

I guess ultimately my question would be, to what extent does making it illegal stop deaths from drug use? If it is any at all, then it’s worth making illegal.

But to more clearly articulate my position, I believe Canada needs to do what seems to have worked and that is mirror Portugal’s policy. I’ve said this for awhile now. I don’t understand how a country has made huge strides and then we don’t think we should just copy that model, and part of that model involves some level of arrest / incarceration to get people clean and then put in way more resources into rehab and detoxification and therapy and training for jobs, etc.

Not just arrest and then fire them back out on the street after a few hours, as if that will do anything effective.
The tl;dr response to this is that incarceration presents a number of obstacles to recovery and can actually lead to death for many reasons (e.g. lack of appropriate staff knowledge and facilities for detox/withdrawal).

There are also very distinct differences between the situations in Portugal and Canada that make it very difficult to mirror their policies. I've explained some of these already in this thread, but I'm tired of repeating myself.

I will say that I'm happy to answer people's questions about this issue over PM if they want to shoot me a message, but I'm gonna bow out of the general discussion I think for my own mental health.
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Old 04-27-2024, 10:50 PM   #1443
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I don’t recall you mentioning about Portugal before so I’ll try to go find it.
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Old 04-29-2024, 10:41 AM   #1444
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Geez!! Those guys are lucky the other dudes didn't kick the #### out of them! Even 50 is too fast on some of these narrow residential streets in Van/Surrey!

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Old 04-29-2024, 01:07 PM   #1445
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People do that on the street my sister lives on. It's near a major intersection on the #7. During rush hour, the intersection can back up, so some cars turn down the residential side street to try to get around the traffic, and they do it at highway speed sometimes. To make it worse, it's a pretty narrow street with no sidewalks and a daycare. I've seen so many close calls there.

One of the neighbours tried to start a petition to get the city to put in speed bumps because of the danger to kids in the area, but you'd be surprised how many refused to sign stating that they don't have kids and therefore don't care.
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Old 04-29-2024, 01:17 PM   #1446
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Speeding infractions need to be stricter.
I don't see why someone driving that fast on a residential street should ever get a license back. Same with that biker on the Lions Gate.
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Old 04-29-2024, 01:25 PM   #1447
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Agreed. Going 60-70 on a residential street that is tightly packed with parked cars like that is way worse than going 100 on a highway marked with 80 max.
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Dude going too fast, and other car making an illegal u-turn across a solid line. Not a good combo. They both deserve a ticket.
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Old 04-29-2024, 08:15 PM   #1449
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People do that on the street my sister lives on. It's near a major intersection on the #7. During rush hour, the intersection can back up, so some cars turn down the residential side street to try to get around the traffic, and they do it at highway speed sometimes. To make it worse, it's a pretty narrow street with no sidewalks and a daycare. I've seen so many close calls there.

One of the neighbours tried to start a petition to get the city to put in speed bumps because of the danger to kids in the area, but you'd be surprised how many refused to sign stating that they don't have kids and therefore don't care.
Experienced this on the weekend out in Surrey visiting a coworker of my wife's. The road was just packed with cars from illegal suites and people fly down that road. I saw a guy at least doing 70 as we were outside chatting. They don't let their kids play out front because of how nuts it is. You can barely back out of a driveway it is so packed and busy.
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Agreed. Going 60-70 on a residential street that is tightly packed with parked cars like that is way worse than going 100 on a highway marked with 80 max.
When you're backing out of a driveway and there are parked cars on the road blocking visibility, you have almost no chance of seeing a speeding vehicle. Anyone on a residential street should be looking out for cars backing out and driving at a speed that would allow them to stop in time.

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Old 04-30-2024, 08:45 AM   #1451
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When you're backing out of a driveway and there are parked cars on the road blocking visibility, you have almost no chance of seeing a speeding vehicle. Anyone on a residential street should be looking out for cars backing out and receiving at a speed that told allow them to stop for them.
Best thing you can do is back into your driveway/garage. I started doing that 25 years ago and I wouldn't go back to the other way.
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The B.C. Human Rights Code prohibits discriminatory hiring based on race or ancestry, but the Burnaby Public Library is one of several dozen organizations that have been granted a special exemption by the B.C. Human Rights Commissioner to openly deny employment to select demographic groups.

“We strongly encourage applicants of all genders, ages, ethnicities, cultures, abilities, sexual orientations, and life experiences to apply,” reads the description for one such posting, a manager of community development.

But as per policy, any ethnicity or culture not meeting the guidelines had no chance. As per Davies’ report, a total of 84 white candidates applied for the five positions, only to have their applications rejected outright. In each instance, only non-white candidates advanced to the interview phase.

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Old 06-25-2024, 09:47 AM   #1453
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I definitely trust the summary from a twitter account of someone who also talks about “trans indoctrination.”
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Old 06-25-2024, 09:50 AM   #1454
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How do you even find that stuff?
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How do you even find that stuff?
MSM reports on it:
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/b-c...job-applicants
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Ah, ok that tracks. An NP opinion piece written by rage farmer Tristin Hopper. Keep up the good work, NP, I guess it gets you the clicks.
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Ah, ok that tracks. An NP opinion piece written by rage farmer Tristin Hopper. Keep up the good work, NP, I guess it gets you the clicks.
I think very little of the NP, but even I’m surprised they linked to that person’s twitter account. Incredible the amount of garbage hate they spread around as mainstream media while hiding behind “opinion columns.”

I can’t believe people still read that trash.
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A look into the crisis in Vancouver, with views from both sides of the safe supply argument.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-h...lumbia-canada/

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Last year, the province recorded 2,511 drug-related overdoses, 87 per cent of them down to fentanyl. The death rate in Vancouver itself now stands at 56 per 100,000 people – nearly three times the national average. And in the Downtown Eastside, the rate is nearly 30 times higher than the rest of the country.

For comparison, England and Wales have a drug-related mortality rate of 8.4 per 100,000 people. In Scotland – the worst in Europe – it stands at 19.8. The only G7 country with anything close to a comparable rate is the United States, at 32.6 per 100,000 people.
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Such a sad situation that seemingly has no end in sight.
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The homeless rate went up 69% over three years in Burnaby. Don’t think drug and homeless issues have any end in site.
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