[Trade] Devils trade Vanecek and 7th for Kahkonen

[musth]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Go look at what Kirby Dach and Newhook got as RFA. If we would have traded mercer with much better production AND the year left making 900k on his ELC, multiple 1sts would have come.

And the bidding would have come from every team in the league.

Rebuilders like calgary would look for the 8 year deal to get long term value.
Contenders would look for a short term deal to maximize short term value and a cheaper AAV.

He can play every forward position, PK, PP, and never gets hurt. 22 years old.

Again, your lack of understanding of what the NHL trade market actually looks like is interesting.

Ok, so, they couldn't come to an agreement then. It happens. Guess we'll see if they kiss and make up in the summer

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Go look at what Kirby Dach and Newhook got as RFA. If we would have traded mercer with much better production AND the year left making 900k on his ELC, multiple 1sts would have come.

And the bidding would have come from every team in the league.

Rebuilders like calgary would look for the 8 year deal to get long term value.
Contenders would look for a short term deal to maximize short term value and a cheaper AAV.

He can play every forward position, PK, PP, and never gets hurt. 22 years old.

Again, your lack of understanding of what the NHL trade market actually looks like is interesting.

says the kid that claims Flames fans have unrealistic expectations

You're not accomplishing anything (despite whatever it is you're telling yourself), so do everyone a favour and just stop. Or, if you need to keep posting, go back to capfriendly boards, where I am sure everyone loves and misses you

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

He's certainly a different playstyle than Graves, but in terms of value provided it's been similar (he's more of been what has been the replacement for Hamilton at a lower level) to what Graves brought

So you agree with me?!

You aren't doing yourself any favours here.

If you've been on CP for more than a week you'd know which team I root for.

SMH

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

So you agree with me?!

You aren't doing yourself any favours here.

If you've been on CP for more than a week you'd know which team I root for.

SMH

Look at the bright side - when we rank the Devil fan posters on here, you're looking GOOOOOOD!!

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Look at the bright side - when we rank the Devil fan posters on here, you're looking GOOOOOOD!!

Tallest of the midgets!!!

[dgibb10]

Originally Posted by DoubleK

So you agree with me?!

You aren't doing yourself any favours here.

If you've been on CP for more than a week you'd know which team I root for.

SMH

Defensively yes Luke is worse than Graves, but don't blame replacing Graves and Severson with Him and Nemec for the devils lack of success.

Goaltending volatility and lack of play, coaching (specifically the horrific handling of goalies by ruff), injuries, and steps back by a few key players, specifically Siegs and Marino, were the major contributors.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

drafting some good young players is easy

turning them into a contending team is much more difficult

pretty much everybody in hockey can see what the Devils need, in order to take the next step

and losing Mercer wouldn't slow them down in the slightest

Yep but everyone is locked up. Hughes might have best contract in the league. They need a goalie but it didn’t need to be now. Hamilton is gone for the year. Why buy now is all just because flames fans think it’s good both ways.

Take our desk it’s good for you and ignore its very very good for us

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Yep but everyone is locked up. Hughes might have best contract in the league. They need a goalie but it didn’t need to be now. Hamilton is gone for the year. Why buy now is all just because flames fans think it’s good both ways.

Take our desk it’s good for you and ignore its very very good for us

Well, the Devils approached the Flames, so....

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Well, the Devils approached the Flames, so....

And the price was too high so…

[dino7c]

Imagine siding with the Devil's fan that just signed up to troll lol

NJ has less points than the rebuilding Flames, a team that considered themselves contenders. Their season is a disaster!

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

And the price was too high so…

pick a lane

[iamca]

NJ is a mess right now and Fitz may be in trouble.

Lots of forward talent, but both goaltending and defense are still a long way from being playoff ready.


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[midniteowl]

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[midniteowl]

They need a goalie but it didn’t need to be now

If not now when? When do you think there gonna be a vezina calibre goalie available? When a team is a great goalie away from going deep in the playoff, that team should jump at the opportunity. Not wait and hope some will fall on their laps again. Especially teams aren't asking for the Huges brothers nor they are asking for Hischier.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Yep but everyone is locked up. Hughes might have best contract in the league. They need a goalie but it didn’t need to be now. Hamilton is gone for the year. Why buy now is all just because flames fans think it’s good both ways.

Take our desk it’s good for you and ignore its very very good for us

No, it needed to be a month or two ago.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Yep but everyone is locked up. Hughes might have best contract in the league. They need a goalie but it didn’t need to be now. Hamilton is gone for the year. Why buy now is all just because flames fans think it’s good both ways.

The thing is the Devils aren't even out of the playoff picture. Just 6 out, and imagine if they had made a deal for a decent goalie weeks ago? Trading for a guy like Markstrom could have still given them a legit chance of making it, plus they'd have him for 2 more years. It did make sense for both teams for them to figure something out now, or a month ago. And there's no guarantee the Devils will even get a decent starter in the summer. So next year they could be stuck with more backups hoping someone steps up. Tough way to go for a team that looked good on paper (except in net) and should be trending upwards.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by dgibb10

Go look at what Kirby Dach and Newhook got as RFA. If we would have traded mercer with much better production AND the year left making 900k on his ELC, multiple 1sts would have come.

And the bidding would have come from every team in the league.

Rebuilders like calgary would look for the 8 year deal to get long term value.
Contenders would look for a short term deal to maximize short term value and a cheaper AAV.

He can play every forward position, PK, PP, and never gets hurt. 22 years old.

Again, your lack of understanding of what the NHL trade market actually looks like is interesting.

His ELC has run out and is having a regressive season. He’s not worth multiple 1sts. Know what he’s worth though? A top end goalie.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

His ELC has run out and is having a regressive season. He’s not worth multiple 1sts. Know what he’s worth though? A top end goalie.

Yeah this is Mercer's last year on his ELC and is a RFA after this summer, you are correct. I wonder if the poster got him mixed up with Holtz, he still has one more year on his ELC left.

[FiveSeven]

It’s a move. Not a good move or the best move. At the end of the day they get a new cheaper backup that has a low chance at rebounding and you get Markstrom in the offseason hopefully.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by musth

Ok, so, they couldn't come to an agreement then. It happens. Guess we'll see if they kiss and make up in the summer

Conny will be even meaner in the summer and extort even more from that moron.