07-23-2018, 04:16 PM
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Backup Goalie
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Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Rank the Defense Pairings
Defense pairings with games played in brackets:
2013/2014
Giordano (64) - Brodie (81)
Russell (68) - Wideman (46)
Butler (82) - Smid (56)
Billins (10), Breen (9), Cundari (4), O'Brien (45), and Smith (14) filled in.
2014/2015
Giordano (61) – Brodie (81)
Russell (79) – Wideman (80)
Diaz (56) – Engelland (76)
Kulak (1), Potter (6), Ramage (1), Schlemko (19), Smid (31), and Wotherspoon (1) filled in.
2015/2016
Giordano (82) – Hamilton (82)
Brodie (70) – Wideman (51)
Russell (51) – Engelland (69)
Kulak (8), Nakladal (27), Smid (22), Wotherspoon (11), and Yokipakka (18) filled in.
2016/2017
Giordano (81) – Hamilton (81)
Brodie (82) - Wideman (57)
Jokipakka (38) – Engelland (81)
Andersson (1), Bartkowski (24), Grossman (3), Kulak (21), Stone (19) and Wotherspoon (4) filled in.
2017/2018
Giordano (82) – Hamilton (82)
Brodie (73) – Hamonic (74)
Kulak (71) - Stone (82)
Andersson (10) and Bartkowski (18) filled in.
2018/2019 (proposed)
Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kulak - Stone
Prout
(Personally, I'd like to see Stone traded for draft picks a.s.a.p. and then have Andersson moved up into his spot).
Which season do you feel has/had the best D lineup combination?
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07-23-2018, 04:19 PM
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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2014-15. Everybody was just killer that year.
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07-23-2018, 04:22 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 420since1974
Defense pairings with games played in brackets:
2013/2014
Giordano (64) - Brodie (81)
Russell (68) - Wideman (46)
Butler (82) - Smid (56)
Billins (10), Breen (9), Cundari (4), O'Brien (45), and Smith (14) filled in.
2014/2015
Giordano (61) – Brodie (81)
Russell (79) – Wideman (80)
Diaz (56) – Engelland (76)
Kulak (1), Potter (6), Ramage (1), Schlemko (19), Smid (31), and Wotherspoon (1) filled in.
2015/2016
Giordano (82) – Hamilton (82)
Brodie (70) – Wideman (51)
Russell (51) – Engelland (69)
Kulak (8), Nakladal (27), Smid (22), Wotherspoon (11), and Yokipakka (18) filled in.
2016/2017
Giordano (81) – Hamilton (81)
Brodie (82) - Wideman (57)
Jokipakka (38) – Engelland (81)
Andersson (1), Bartkowski (24), Grossman (3), Kulak (21), Stone (19) and Wotherspoon (4) filled in.
2017/2018
Giordano (82) – Hamilton (82)
Brodie (73) – Hamonic (74)
Kulak (71) - Stone (82)
Andersson (10) and Bartkowski (18) filled in.
2018/2019 (proposed)
Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Kulak - Stone
Prout
(Personally, I'd like to see Stone traded for draft picks a.s.a.p. and then have Andersson moved up into his spot).
Which season do you feel has/had the best D lineup combination?
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This is a little bit funny to look at, because last year was by far our best "on-paper" year for the defence core.
I think in 2015/16 we got the most out of our D, even though it has Wideman and Russell as mainstays on it.
Now I hold out hope that this years stable of defenders outshines all previous versions.
Time will tell. I'd like to see what Stone can offer this year and Brodie as well. I pray the coaching change is significant!
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07-23-2018, 04:35 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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13/14
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07-23-2018, 04:35 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
2014-15. Everybody was just killer that year.
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They achieved the most. But were they the best roster? It's pretty hard to make that case.
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07-23-2018, 06:03 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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On paper, coming into the seasons 15/16 and 17/18 should've been the best. 14/15 ended up being the best.
So hope is that 18/19 defence performs the best with better forwards and hopefully no injured goaltending
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07-23-2018, 06:31 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
They achieved the most. But were they the best roster? It's pretty hard to make that case.
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Well they achieved a hell of a lot more than the other "better" defenses. Brodie and Russel played out of their minds.
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07-23-2018, 06:42 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesforcup
Well they achieved a hell of a lot more than the other "better" defenses. Brodie and Russel played out of their minds.
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And Wideman 56 points.
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07-23-2018, 06:44 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: CGY
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18/19 will be the best. Emergence of 3 stud dmen in one year (Valimaki,,Rasmus, Hanifin) Feel rasmus and valumaki get time in some capacity regardless of making team or not.If they dont? Great! no injuries is a huge blessing
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07-23-2018, 06:44 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesforcup
Well they achieved a hell of a lot more than the other "better" defenses. Brodie and Russel played out of their minds.
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Don't forget Wideman being over a point per game after Gio was injured.
14/15 for me because it's the only year where our top 2 pairings were both strong all year. Although the end of 16/17 with Brodie-Stone on the second pair was IMO stronger, just can't put it in front due to the small sample size.
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07-23-2018, 08:08 PM
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Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesforcup
Well they achieved a hell of a lot more than the other "better" defenses. Brodie and Russel played out of their minds.
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Sure, I just didn’t think that was the question.
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07-23-2018, 08:09 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
They achieved the most. But were they the best roster? It's pretty hard to make that case.
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If I was judging based on that season alone, then yes I would choose them, but if I were to judge based on overall careers I think I’d take 17/18.
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07-23-2018, 08:13 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Brodie, Russell, Wideman and Engellend all stepped up huge when Gio went down in 2015. Even Schlemko stepped in and played well. Wideman has 15 goals and 56pts in the one year he earned that big salary. Russell stepped in as the emotional leader that Gio was prior to his injury and also had a strong offensive year. Brodie was at the height of his play as was Gio who was a lock for a Norris nomination if he was healthy.
That was a magical team with a horseshoe up their ass all year. They were the opposite of this years Flames who crumbled when faced with adversity
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07-23-2018, 10:15 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Vancouver
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2018-2019 is the best on paper, best depth, and should by all means by the best results-wise, especially if Hanifin is steady and one of our D prospects sticks with the big club.
Looking at the prior years, there were some memorable moments and big individual years for sure, but I don't think you can argue that 2017-18 isn't the second best on paper with the addition of Hamonic and Stone.
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07-24-2018, 08:17 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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lol 13-14 was so bad. Signing Engelland really was a smart move.
on paper, 17-18 should have been fantastic. The 14-15 group played out of its collective mind all year, still amazes me.
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07-24-2018, 08:53 AM
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Backup Goalie
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A little bit off topic but shout out to Gio... he has played every game since that bicep injury with the exception of 1 which he missed because of the birth of his child. All on the other side of 30.
I love this guy
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