03-18-2017, 06:28 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Calgary, Canada
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A conversation with Gary Bettman
Hi all,
Attached is a link where Gary Bettman had a little Q&A with season ticket holders at the Dome the other day.
Nothing earth shattering at all from his day here in Calgary, most of it discussed already in the media and on CP.
1) Need a new rink, Edmonton has a world class rink, Calgary can't continue the same path. Call your councilor at city hall and get it done etc
2) Olympics are too disruptive given the lack of value the NHL owners see. Lots of factor at play including travel, costs, location and injury potential. I am not really sure what the difference would be between these Olympics, the previous Olympics and the future Olympics in China are. Mentioned that in Japan in 98 they ripped out the ice the next day. I guess they see China as a massive growth market??
3) All the loser hockey markets where hockey continues to be a struggle 20 years later with untold tens of millions in losses and taxpayer funding are in fact "great markets"
Some other tidbits as well but that was a good chunk of the 30 minute video. If you wanted to watch the video in full, here is the link
https://www.nhl.com/flames/video/exc...man/c-50500903
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03-18-2017, 06:30 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
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Watched it earlier today and he came across as quite candid on some pretty key questions/issues with the league and Olympics. Embedded for the lazzies:
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03-18-2017, 06:40 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Brisbane
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Doesn't seem like anything new here. Just Bettman doing his job promoting the interests of the NHL owners.
Call your local connsellor though seriously?
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03-18-2017, 06:50 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Hmmmmmmm
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Really wish Bettman would shut up and stop pretending he's looking out for the best interest of Calgary.
"Improve quality of life" lol can't wait until I will have to pay 40% more to watch the Flames and all with a building my tax money helped build.
All those laid off people foreclosing their house and having to use Calgary housing will also really enjoy all their hard earned tax dollars over the years go to this new arena they can't afford to enter.
Shut up Gary and go back to New York.
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03-18-2017, 06:58 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Calgary, Canada
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I hated the self promotion of the garbage World Cup tournament and how it was the best competition, above and beyond anything seen in the Olympics.
I admit I didn't watch World Cup at all as to me it's a made up tournament. It's NHL players playing against NHL players with a few different wrinkles thrown in like Team Europe and U23. Tickets were incredibly expensive, ratings were low and the attendance wasn't great but I HEARD the hockey was good though.
I just hate how much hype went into this as if it was the 72 Summit Series with the geopolitical issues of the time and we didn't know who the Soviet players were etc.
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03-18-2017, 09:15 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Interesting that Bettman admits that he basically gave an informal offer to the NHLPA that if they waived their re-opener of the CBA in 2020 and extended it by 3 years they would go to the next 2 Olympics. The NHLPA didn't response well to that "offer". I guess they are planning on a strike. If I was the NHL why would I let the players go to the Olympics when it provides no significant benefits to the owners.
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03-18-2017, 09:38 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SW Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
Interesting that Bettman admits that he basically gave an informal offer to the NHLPA that if they waived their re-opener of the CBA in 2020 and extended it by 3 years they would go to the next 2 Olympics. The NHLPA didn't response well to that "offer". I guess they are planning on a strike. If I was the NHL why would I let the players go to the Olympics when it provides no significant benefits to the owners.
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I totally get it from the NHL and owners point of view, it just sucks for the fans
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03-18-2017, 09:52 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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The olympic stance is a bit hypocritical in my view.
Bettman argues in favor of government funding for an arena because "public good" and "community asset." So he's essentially arguing that because the NHL provides value to the community, the community should fund subsidize the NHL (even though it has no obligation to do so).
Then he turns around and says "no olympics because there's nothing in it for the owners and we aren't obliged to do it" So the NHL wants government support for its community asset, but then doesn't want to support community events.
Which really reiterates my view that Bettman is a weasle and can #### right off.
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03-18-2017, 10:37 PM
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
The olympic stance is a bit hypocritical in my view.
Bettman argues in favor of government funding for an arena because "public good" and "community asset." So he's essentially arguing that because the NHL provides value to the community, the community should fund subsidize the NHL (even though it has no obligation to do so).
Then he turns around and says "no olympics because there's nothing in it for the owners and we aren't obliged to do it" So the NHL wants government support for its community asset, but then doesn't want to support community events.
Which really reiterates my view that Bettman is a weasle and can #### right off.
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You'll have to explain to me how the Olympics in Korea is a community event?
If the players want to go that badly, accept the NHL's offer and extend the CBA by a couple of years. If not, that's fine, but that's their choice.
Last edited by Lord Carnage; 03-18-2017 at 10:41 PM.
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03-18-2017, 10:53 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Carnage
You'll have to explain to me how the Olympics in Korea is a community event?
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lol?
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03-18-2017, 11:28 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
lol?
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That is a terrible explanation. You fail.
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03-18-2017, 11:30 PM
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by curves2000
...I admit I didn't watch World Cup at all as to me it's a made up tournament...
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Every sports tournament at every level is a "made up tournament."
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03-19-2017, 12:03 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Every sports tournament at every level is a "made up tournament."
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But to think you can manufacture the passion and significance of the Olympics is just asinine. It has to come organically.
The world cup is the manufactured boy bad of hockey tournaments. Meaningless and contrived.
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03-19-2017, 10:16 AM
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
lol?
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Absolutely not... 100% serious.
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03-19-2017, 10:29 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GullFoss
The olympic stance is a bit hypocritical in my view.
Bettman argues in favor of government funding for an arena because "public good" and "community asset." So he's essentially arguing that because the NHL provides value to the community, the community should fund subsidize the NHL (even though it has no obligation to do so).
Then he turns around and says "no olympics because there's nothing in it for the owners and we aren't obliged to do it" So the NHL wants government support for its community asset, but then doesn't want to support community events.
Which really reiterates my view that Bettman is a weasle and can #### right off.
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I don't get why people get upset with Bettman. It's his job is to do what's best for the NHL and the owners. Everything he does or says is to that end, but apparently that makes him a weasel.
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03-19-2017, 10:45 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fire
I don't get why people get upset with Bettman. It's his job is to do what's best for the NHL and the owners. Everything he does or says is to that end, but apparently that makes him a weasel.
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Its the way in which he goes about it that makes him seem weasel-like.
I tend to support Bettman and I actually think hes a very intelligent guy, but that doesnt mean I'm going to agree with him on all of his stances or the way he goes about doing his job.
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03-19-2017, 01:24 PM
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Franchise Player
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I really hate the way commissioners of all pro sports leagues feel how the general public/government should fund new arenas/stadiums
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03-19-2017, 01:32 PM
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Northendzone
I really hate the way commissioners of all pro sports leagues feel how the general public/government should fund new arenas/stadiums
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Gary's a smart man, he knows the level of importance of sports arena funding in a city, he's just selling as per the requirements of his job.
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03-19-2017, 01:47 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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So Bettman wants Calgary to put itself on the map by helping fund a new building that would facilitate an Olympic bid, but also sees no value in taking part in such events that help boost cities in such a way. His stance on the Olympics = the stance of 80%+ of Calgarians on helping pay for such a facility for NHL purposes. Not sure he realizes that avid hockey fans constitute but a fraction of the population.
At least the Olympics are larger than hockey. Maybe showing support for them would've helped his agenda more.
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