[PGT] Flames lose in OT but I don't even care

[Flash Walken]

Bouma:

Since signing his latest contract, it has taken 2 seasons to get to 82 games played and in those 82 games he has scored just 12 points.


If I am managing the flames he gets bought out this offseason.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Bouma:

Since signing his latest contract, it has taken 2 seasons to get to 82 games played and in those 82 games he has scored just 12 points.


If I am managing the flames he gets bought out this offseason.

That's a roughly 3 million dollar payout for 12 points.

Besides the Giordano contract, re signing bouma has been the biggest mistake of treliving tenure.

[Badgers Nose]

Should have been 1-0 Flames.

First goal was a joke, then he looked great.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Don't see the point in a buy-out. Either try to move him during the summer or eat the contract in the final year then be done with it. No need extending 1.1 cap hit into another season.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Don't see the point in a buy-out. Either try to move him during the summer or eat the contract in the final year then be done with it. No need extending 1.1 cap hit into another season.

Buyout frees 1.5 for next season but adds 750k the season after.

Flames are going to need that 1.5 if they want to start making the playoffs.

[MrMastodonFarm]

They'll also need the full 2.2 next summer with Backlund so I'd rather they eat it and see what happens. Bouma's been beat up, he's been thrown out, but he's not down, no he's not down. He's been shown up but he's grown up, yeah he's not down, no he's not down.

Unlike Raymond there is a somewhat useful player still there. Better options then a buyout IMO. Eat some salary in the summer to trade him, bite the bullet and move him towards the deadline next year.

Flames still need another top four blueliner but with Wideman and Engellend coming off the books July 1st that's 8.15 in freedom. (also no Smid on LTIR, Bollig's .300 offers a little relief)

Bouma's contract doesn't come close to Mason Raymond's horrible three year deal. We'll still have that million dollar cap hit next year.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Unlike Raymond there is a somewhat useful player still there. Better options then a buyout IMO. Eat some salary in the summer to trade him, bite the bullet and move him towards the deadline next year.

The Flames would have to eat probably half of bouma's salary to move him, which would mean they would be paying 2 million bucks for players not to play with for them if you included Raymond's buyout.

If the Flames buy out Bouma this offseason, they will be paying MayRay a million bucks next year and bouma 766k. THat would leave them with an extra 1.5 million next year plus a roster spot. If they just pay bouma to play next year, they will be paying him 2.2 million, and raymond 1 million, or, twice as much cap hit than the buyout scenario.

Flames still need another top four blueliner but with Wideman and Engellend coming off the books July 1st that's 8.15 in freedom. (also no Smid on LTIR, Bollig's .300 offers a little relief)

The Flames are already overpaying other roster players like Stajan, no matter how much money is coming off the books with bad contracts, the flames will need ever sheckel of it to compete with other teams.

Bouma's contract doesn't come close to Mason Raymond's horrible three year deal. We'll still have that million dollar cap hit next year.

Raymond scored 45 points before signing with Calgary. It was a bad deal, but there was a history of a point producer there.

Bouma had never scored more than 15 goals since he was playing AA Midget hockey. It's no surprise he isn't scoring now. Classic example of a sell high scenario when a guy scores more goals than he has since he was playing in Wainwright Alberta.

With 1.5 million extra the flames could spend 6 million on a winger instead of 4.5, that's a big upgrade in terms of the tier of player you get. 1.5 million might even pay for Bennett's raise.

Bouma brings basically nothing at this point. Garnet Hathaway is more productive. You can't pay a guy 2.2 for something a guy earning 650k can bring on a nightly basis.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Besides the Giordano contract, re signing bouma has been the biggest mistake of treliving tenure.

So you're saying the Flames should have traded Gorda no for an Iginla-isque return and tanked hard to get Nolan Patrick?

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Sylvanfan

So you're saying the Flames should have traded Gorda no for an Iginla-isque return and tanked hard to get Nolan Patrick?

If Treliving only got an Iginla-esque return for Giordano as a norris nominee with 1 year left at 4 million dollars, I would've fired him on the spot.

Yandle got a 1st, a 2nd, John Moore and Duclair and Giordano was clearly superior to Yandle.

Give me that trade all day long.

[Lil Pedro]

Pray to God everyday that Vegas takes Bouma

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Don't see the point in a buy-out. Either try to move him during the summer or eat the contract in the final year then be done with it. No need extending 1.1 cap hit into another season.

Agreed. Just do what we did with Bollig. Give him one last shot in training camp and if he doesn't impress put him on waivers and send him down

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Lil Pedro

Pray to God everyday that Vegas takes Bouma

One more year of Bouma at 2.2 million is NBD. At worst you waive him and he ends up in the minors for the final year of his deal, and then you're home free. Or you can retain a bit and find him a new home elsewhere, I'm sure there's a team that would be interested in a stab at Bouma at around 1.5 million.

Three more years of Brouwer at 4.5, who is basically Bouma handed power play time, on the other hand, is what we need Vegas to save us from.

[killer_carlson]

While I wholeheartedly endorse the criticism of Bouma's play, he's also had 3 (or was it 2) goals this season called back on blueline offside video review.

[Fire]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

Bouma:

Since signing his latest contract, it has taken 2 seasons to get to 82 games played and in those 82 games he has scored just 12 points.


If I am managing the flames he gets bought out this offseason.

I don't think it's worth it buying him out. Bouma is still useful as a bottom 6 player and on the PK. His last year of his deal will most likely be his best because he's playing for another contract.

[Mister Yamoto]

Buying out a player is seldom a good move IMO.

Could have just stuck it out with Raymond and been done with him at seasons end, but instead the Flames get his cap hit next year too. You can't get in the habit of buying players out every year because it compounds.

Bouma is still a useful player, a gritty player on a very soft team and a player who has shown an ability to have amazing season in his contract year. Keep him.

Besides, with Wideman gone next year, CP will need a new whipping boy.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You've lost it on this topic... what do you know about his dedication and preparation?

I know he's the only player on the team to have the media get a hold of his inability to make team commitments and show up for practice on time twice in a year. That's enough for me.

[Erick Estrada]

Tough to make the playoffs when you have a losing record against every divisional rival not named the Coyotes. Two wins in ten games vs the Oilers and Canucks is unacceptable. The last time this team was this bad against their western canadian rivals was in the young guns seasons.

[Stay Golden]

Team's offense is MIA.

[schteve_d]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Gaudreau is not a player that can carry a team on his back....he is a playmaker

he makes plays...need some finish if we want to get the most out of him

For a playmaker, an awful lot of plays, and possession, died on his stick last night and in the last few games.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

I know he's the only player on the team to have the media get a hold of his inability to make team commitments and show up for practice on time twice in a year. That's enough for me.

Nope