11-17-2014, 08:09 AM
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#41
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Mike F
If I don't care about HF and write them off as amateurs when they ranked the Flames low, can I suddenly put a lot of stock in their valuation when they rank the Flames high?
(that was rhetorical)
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Looking back though, we haven't graduated many players from those lowly rated prospect pools, so they were probably right. Obviously, TJ Brodie and Michael Backlund have worked out but not too many others.
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11-17-2014, 10:31 AM
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#42
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Which makes our list all the more funny with Jooris way down in 35th!
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Honestly tells me to be a little wary of Jooris and his burst ... doesn't really add up. I think he's an NHLer now, but not a 60 point player.
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Yeah, we underestimated Jooris, that's for sure. Happens though - some guys over-shoot their expected ceiling. Nice to get one of those.
But yeah, I hope no one is hoping for a 60 point guy - I think he is going to make a good bottom sixer, much like Bouma. And that's great!
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11-17-2014, 10:36 AM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Jooris and Byron are similar - lots of steady good work, and the occaisonal game with a couple points as a result. The fact Jooris is bigger while still being fast, and seems to handle himself in the faceoff dot pretty well bodes well, though.
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11-17-2014, 10:39 AM
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#44
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Right behind you.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bingo
Which makes our list all the more funny with Jooris way down in 35th!
Honestly tells me to be a little wary of Jooris and his burst ... doesn't really add up. I think he's an NHLer now, but not a 60 point player.
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Sometimes though a guy is just a late bloomer - and no stats or ranking are going to help you with that.
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11-17-2014, 03:07 PM
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#45
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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For those that are following Addy, is the mention of Sena Acolatse warranted? It seems like Hickey might have been a bigger add on D over the summer. Happy if he has a chance, but I haven't heard much, good or bad.
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O.K. there has been a lot of talk on whether or not MacTavish has actually done a good job for us, most fans on this board are very basic in their analysis and I feel would change their opinion entirely if the team was successful.
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11-17-2014, 03:28 PM
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#46
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Calgary
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I think the list of how we ranked our prospects just shows us how subjective these rankings really are. I mean, we as a fan base ranked Josh Jooris number 35, and we pay really close attention to this team. Things change and these rankings really mean nothing, as it is too hard to predict how certain players are going to turn out. However, I will say that our forward prospect pool could be argued to be the best in the league. If not the best, then at least very comparable to Buffalo's. However, our Defence pool I think is really lacking. Wotherspoon may be turn out to be a good top 3/4 guy, but no prospect yet has shown promise of being a good 1/2 guy. I am surprised quite frankly that we got ranked so highly.
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11-17-2014, 03:30 PM
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#47
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Detroit in the top 5? I wish they would just go away for a while.
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11-17-2014, 03:56 PM
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#48
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Lifetime Suspension
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I'd say we have the #2 ranked forward prospect pool, if not the best. Our depth is unbelievable, as demonstrated by how we've decimated our farm team roster and are still maintaining a high level of play with the prospects filling in here, as well as in Adirondack, relying on players not named Baertschi, Ferland, Reinhart, or Granlund. We have a LOT of future NHLers here, far more than most teams.
The defence however I'd put in the 15-20 range, as it could be much improved on, and we didn't address it in the 2nd or 3rd rounds after drafting Bennett this past draft, which I still kind of think we should have. But we're making do with what we have. Wotherspoon has potential to be a solid second pairing man, and Sieloff, Kulak and Culkin all have potential as bottom pairing guys. So there's some good prospects still, but nothing high end.
Goaltending maybe cracks the top 10. Gillies and Ortio have great potential and could be starters down the road if they continue to develop. MacDonald was also very highly regarded by scouts. I don't know that you need much more depth than that, tbqh.
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11-17-2014, 04:06 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Right behind you.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by djsFlames
The defence however I'd put in the 15-20 range, as it could be much improved on, and we didn't address it in the 2nd or 3rd rounds after drafting Bennett this past draft, which I still kind of think we should have. But we're making do with what we have. Wotherspoon has potential to be a solid second pairing man, and Sieloff, Kulak and Culkin all have potential as bottom pairing guys. So there's some good prospects still, but nothing high end.
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Don't forget about Raflikov - he could be a jewel in the rough.
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11-17-2014, 04:13 PM
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#50
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First Line Centre
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Anyone following adirondack know how Wotherspoon has looked so far this year? Would he be the first defenseman called up if needed based on his play this season?
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11-18-2014, 08:09 AM
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#51
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by stemit14
Anyone following adirondack know how Wotherspoon has looked so far this year? Would he be the first defenseman called up if needed based on his play this season?
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Wotherspoon is pretty much "Mr. Reliable" for the AHL Flames. Any situation, he's there. Smart plays. Huge minutes (this is where TOI would be nice but I'd say he's out there around the 25 min mark a night). It seems like he's Huska's go to Defenceman right now, and deservedly so. It's rare to see a stupid play or guy beating him cleanly.
I would think he would be 1st call up. Small chance Ryan Culkin whose also having a great season could get the first call as a reward/motivation for his play, but Wotherspoon really should be 1st.
Sieloff has shaken off the rust pretty quickly as well. He's had a few memorable defensive plays. Hopefully he stays healthy and gets a full year in the AHL and perhaps next year he's in the NHL conversation.
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11-18-2014, 08:15 AM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Jooris and Byron are similar - lots of steady good work, and the occaisonal game with a couple points as a result. The fact Jooris is bigger while still being fast, and seems to handle himself in the faceoff dot pretty well bodes well, though.
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Also he's a right handed shot, which is fortunate because we don't have a lot of those. I believe Hunter Smith is the only other RH forward prospect in the system at the moment
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11-18-2014, 08:46 AM
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#53
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by devo22
Also he's a right handed shot, which is fortunate because we don't have a lot of those. I believe Hunter Smith is the only other RH forward prospect in the system at the moment
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Corban Knight
Austin Carroll
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