04-15-2014, 08:04 PM
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Crash and Bang Winger
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lol these articles come out every year
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04-15-2014, 08:10 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Saskatoon still has such a small town feel to it, I just can't imagine it having an NHL team. But maybe like 7-10 years down the road that conversation changes. I'd say some place like Hamilton Ontario, even over a second Toronto team. The metro area has a population similar to Edmonton. Could work.
Maybe an east coast team..but where? Halifax?
Quebec City is the most likely at this point.
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You might as well put the team in Toronto if you're going to do Hamilton. Same market...plus Buffalo would get ticked since it's closer to them.
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04-15-2014, 09:27 PM
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#23
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
There's barely enough people in the entire province of Saskatchewan to support an NHL franchise let alone an individual city like Regina or Saskatoon. This isn't the CFL where the province travels to Regina once every two weeks in the summer to see a football game. NHL games need to be attended during weekdays in the middle of winter.
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The NHL rejected Saskatoon in 1983 when the league managed well below $400 million in revenue. The league has completely left the province behind in the time since.
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04-15-2014, 10:48 PM
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by bizaro86
There would be enough corporate support from those who can't get/afford leafs tickets to make it viable.
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I'm not at all sure this is the case. If some CEO buys tickets to the Toronto Shmegegges because he can't get tickets to the Leafs, what kind of message is he sending to the clients that he tries to entertain with those tickets? ‘Do business with us – we'll cheap out on you! We’re satisfied with second best, and we think you should be too!’
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04-16-2014, 08:56 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Originally Posted by VictoryJuice
lol these articles come out every year
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LOL? You mean, let me understand this … cuz I … maybe its me, maybe I’m a little ####ed up maybe. I'm funny how? I mean funny, like I’m a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? I’m here to ####in’ amuse you? Whattya you mean funny? Funny how? How am I funny?
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04-16-2014, 09:03 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by nik-
They're Leafs fans, not hockey fans. The Marlies do okay because they're the Leafs farm team. They don't go to Junior games. They may support a new team for a bit to spite the Leafs, but it will be temporary.
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I don't know about that. I talked to a Nordiques fan once about why he didn't just follow the Canadiens, and he said that when the Nordiques came it was a chance for a lot of younger Quebecers to get in on the ground level of support for a new team that would have its own history, instead of hearing their dads and grandpas go on endlessly about the glory days. They relished being the new kid on the block, the underdog.
And the Leafs don't have anywhere near the recent success that the Canadiens had back in the 80s.
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04-16-2014, 09:12 AM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Sunnyvale
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The study says "could support". Not "will get", "not they are on the radar", not "3 Canadian cities getting franchises", the study is just basically fishing. Could 3 more teams in Canada work? Yes it may but NHL has no interest in this and never will. One, maybe, two not likely, three, never. There are markets that could support three more, but the league would rather pour money into Phenoix then move them to a real hockey market.
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04-16-2014, 09:25 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Originally Posted by Dagger
The Leafs and Sabres would never approve having an additional team in the area. It simply won't happen.
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They don't have a veto anymore. Majority rules.
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04-16-2014, 11:21 AM
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Franchise Player
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Wasn't Quebec City and Hamilton potential candidates along side Winnipeg when the Thrashers were going to move?
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04-16-2014, 11:25 AM
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Calgary
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No more Canadian teams please, imagine the ratings if two small market Canadian teams met in the finals? Would be embarrassing.
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04-16-2014, 11:38 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by etc
No more Canadian teams please, imagine the ratings if two small market Canadian teams met in the finals? Would be embarrassing.
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Imagine the ratings if two small market American teams met in the finals. Nashville vs. Carolina or Phoenix vs. Columbus would draw way less fans than Edmonton vs. Hamilton or Winnipeg vs. Quebec.
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04-16-2014, 11:50 AM
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Not in America, and they would at least gain new fans in those markets.
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04-16-2014, 11:57 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Originally Posted by etc
No more Canadian teams please, imagine the ratings if two small market Canadian teams met in the finals? Would be embarrassing.
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Who gives an ef about the ratings. If it's good hockey I'll watch. If you go through life worrying what the other guy (in this case Americans) thinks, you'll have a hard time.
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04-16-2014, 12:03 PM
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Calgary
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Good advice, I just don't see how the NHL would give them teams, and personally I would just rather watch Seattle or something play, although I'd watch anyone.
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04-16-2014, 12:10 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by etc
No more Canadian teams please, imagine the ratings if two small market Canadian teams met in the finals? Would be embarrassing.
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Its not about ratings, it's about revenue.
The seven Canadian franchises rank in the top 16 according to Forbes valuation, and in the top 14 in operating income.
It makes strong business sense to expand/relocate into Canada.
http://www.forbes.com/nhl-valuations/list/
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04-16-2014, 12:20 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
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Originally Posted by troutman
LOL? You mean, let me understand this … cuz I … maybe its me, maybe I’m a little ####ed up maybe. I'm funny how? I mean funny, like I’m a clown? I amuse you? I make you laugh? I’m here to ####in’ amuse you? Whattya you mean funny? Funny how? How am I funny?
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Just...you know, how you tell the story, what?
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04-16-2014, 12:22 PM
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Mar 2013
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Its not about ratings, it's about revenue.
The seven Canadian franchises rank in the top 16 according to Forbes valuation, and in the top 14 in operating income.
It makes strong business sense to expand/relocate into Canada.
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And how will the other teams increase their income when they have to play teams like Hamilton? They would just get it from the Canadian franchises, but how is that healthy for the league?
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04-16-2014, 12:36 PM
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by etc
No more Canadian teams please, imagine the ratings if two small market Canadian teams met in the finals? Would be embarrassing.
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If it boils down to ratings the whole playoff structure could be scrapped and a board/panel could put together "Bowl" games much like NCAA football. That is hugely successful.
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04-16-2014, 12:43 PM
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#39
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Dagger
The Leafs and Sabres would never approve having an additional team in the area. It simply won't happen.
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Rogers and Bell sharing the Leafs is not likely to succeed in the long run. Chances are that when the split happens, it will be a case of whoever divests themselves of the Leafs gets a new Toronto team without all of the indemnities and whatnot. And, really, nobody in the NHL is going to care too much about Buffalo's opinion when they see all the $'s to be mined in the GTA.
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04-16-2014, 01:01 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Originally Posted by etc
And how will the other teams increase their income when they have to play teams like Hamilton? They would just get it from the Canadian franchises, but how is that healthy for the league?
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Canadian TV revenue should increase, shared by all.
NHL Revenue sharing (although currently significantly less than other pro leagues - that will continue to grow)
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