Innocent til proven guilty but when you are a person who is known, you need to be careful how you handle yourself. If he is innocent, which I hope he is, lesson leaned (be careful what kind of situations you put yourself in) If he is guilty I hope they throw the book at him. He is a representative of the Flames and he should act as such, he cant go around breaking peoples faces.
I'm curious as to why a flames fan on a calgary flames fan board would not want one of their prospects to catch a break?
I wouldn't care if he was a canuck prospect, the kid may have made a mistake, no need to cry over spilled milk. There are other ways to punish him in the criminal justice system. Other than slapping him with a criminal record. Didn't bertuzzi just have to pay a fine after the moore incident in place of a conviction?
I highly doubt if this was a Canucks Oilers or Jets prospect people have such bleeding hearts. Im a teacher and work with at risk kids from absolute terrible family lives and I fully believe in giving people breaks if it is warranted. I also see what happens when people are allowed to get off or not held responsible for their actions. Regardless of his profession or upbringing he should be treated like anyone else.
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I like what Jim Rome always has to say when an NFLer gets mixed up in an incident outside a bar -"nothing good can come from being outside abar at 2 am.". So, if you are going to be a pro athlete - be smart and stay away from where the trouble is. Sure it is less fun, but sometimes that's what being an adult means - doing the smart thing not the fun thing.
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I like what Jim Rome always has to say when an NFLer gets mixed up in an incident outside a bar -"nothing good can come from being outside abar at 2 am.". So, if you are going to be a pro athlete - be smart and stay away from where the trouble is. Sure it is less fun, but sometimes that's what being an adult means - doing the smart thing not the fun thing.
This is a very accurat statement. It is even harder when you are a known athlete or star to avoid problems.
I remember listening to Stone Cold Steve Austin interview a few years ago. He mentioned in the interview the hardest thing about being in his position of fame is that whenever he went out to bars people wanted to fight him so they could say "I beat up stone cold steve austing"
I am not saying Ferland is the victim in this but people like him may have to wathc out, especially in smaller communities were everybody knows everybody.
In the mid-80s, MacInnis was out at the bar with some friends when a brawl broke out between his group and some other patrons. A woman alleged that MacInnis kicked her in the stomach. Charges were laid, but I don't think anyone was convicted in the incident. It caused quite a stir, as MacInnis was already a star, and the city was small in those days so there were all kinds of rumours from people whose friends were at the bar, etc.
Innocent til proven guilty but when you are a person who is known, you need to be careful how you handle yourself. If he is innocent, which I hope he is, lesson leaned (be careful what kind of situations you put yourself in) If he is guilty I hope they throw the book at him. He is a representative of the Flames and he should act as such, he cant go around breaking peoples faces.
That's ridiculous.
It's a bar fight, not a serial killing.
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By the way, has there been any more news on this? Has a court.date been scheduled?
According to the Cochrane Times (right between an ad for a fertilizer sale and the Seniors' Bridge Club sked), Ferland is scheduled to appear in Provincial Court in Cochrane on Sept. 4.
Whether the matter will be dealt with then, or Ferland's lawyer will simply come out to set a later date, it doesn't say.
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In the mid-80s, MacInnis was out at the bar with some friends when a brawl broke out between his group and some other patrons. A woman alleged that MacInnis kicked her in the stomach. Charges were laid, but I don't think anyone was convicted in the incident. It caused quite a stir, as MacInnis was already a star, and the city was small in those days so there were all kinds of rumours from people whose friends were at the bar, etc.
That's not the way it went, It was Al's brother Rob who was fighting with Al just beaking off like he was something special. Hadn't it been for a couple of my friends both would have been beaten very bad as the 3 guys they were messing with weren't exactly choir boys. Nobody was actually charged just thrown in the drunk tank for a few hours.
I think he grew up a lot after that night.
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That's not the way it went, It was Al's brother Rob who was fighting with Al just beaking off like he was something special. Hadn't it been for a couple of my friends both would have been beaten very bad as the 3 guys they were messing with weren't exactly choir boys. Nobody was actually charged just thrown in the drunk tank for a few hours.
Innocent til proven guilty but when you are a person who is known, you need to be careful how you handle yourself. If he is innocent, which I hope he is, lesson leaned (be careful what kind of situations you put yourself in) If he is guilty I hope they throw the book at him. He is a representative of the Flames and he should act as such, he cant go around breaking peoples faces.
19 year old kid has a little too much one night, is wired a certain way after years of coaching and a unique environment, throws a punch he shouldn't and you want what? Him to serve time? If he'd done this on the ice, he would have maybe been given an extra two, or a ten minute misconduct. If it was really egregious, he'd get ejected, but likely not suspended.
Give him his community service and be done with it. Let's not act like hes the only party at fault here. Bar fights never happen because one side was doing nothing whatsoever and the other side just wanted to hit somebody. And I highly doubt someone was breaking his balls because they knew he was 'Michael Ferland'. We're not talking Iggy or Kipper here, we're talking about a 5th rounder who didn't make the world junior team and plays in Brandon. How recognizable could he be in Cochrane?
Live and learn. If Batman saw this, he'd give all involved a shot to the kidneys and tell them to grow up before continuing his pursuit of actual fiends. Nothing to see here.
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Let's not act like hes the only party at fault here. Bar fights never happen because one side was doing nothing whatsoever and the other side just wanted to hit somebody.
People who say that often times can't be realistic about what they were doing. Everyone I know who's ever been hit at a bar played the 'I wasn't doing anything' card and then it turned out that they had in fact been talking s*** or talking to the wrong girl, or had a chance to walk away and didn't take it. If you're just sitting in a booth or standing at the bar, the odds of someone punching you out are beyond microscopic.
The fact that he was with his dad is also a little peculiar to me, as I don't know many people who'd willingly be the aggressor and throw down without cause if their father was present. Given that he was out having a few drinks with his dad in a place he isn't from, I have to assume he's got at least a decent relationship with him. So something more has to have happened than we're being told.
He shouldn't have hit the guy when he was down. Apologize and move on.
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People who say that often times can't be realistic about what they were doing. Everyone I know who's ever been hit at a bar played the 'I wasn't doing anything' card and then it turned out that they had in fact been talking s*** or talking to the wrong girl, or had a chance to walk away and didn't take it. If you're just sitting in a booth or standing at the bar, the odds of someone punching you out are beyond microscopic.
The fact that he was with his dad is also a little peculiar to me, as I don't know many people who'd willingly be the aggressor and throw down without cause if their father was present. Given that he was out having a few drinks with his dad in a place he isn't from, I have to assume he's got at least a decent relationship with him. So something more has to have happened than we're being told.
He shouldn't have hit the guy when he was down. Apologize and move on.
Having never been in a bar fight but seen enough in my time there are plenty of times when people weren't doing anything other than being in the vicinity of idiot drunks that wanted to act tough and fight. It isn't always them misremembering what role they played in the fight and often just dicks with too much to drink.
Considering we know nothing about Ferland and his father not sure why something more has to have happened. Guys fight with their dads, moms, kids, wives etc. present all the time.