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Old 06-17-2012, 09:24 PM   #81
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This isn't NHL 12, in no way is Bouwmeester considered an offensive D anymore.
The man still put up 30 points, don't kid yourself.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:29 PM   #82
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Please tell me how we could muster an NHL D corp without Jay to eat 25+ mins a nite against the leagues best?
Sign a UFA or two?
Make other trades?
Give more minutes to our remaining D?
Combination of all three?
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:31 PM   #83
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The man still put up 30 points, don't kid yourself.
Yeah, exactly. 30 points isn't anything amazing from the blue end, but it would put him in the top 40 or so.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:35 PM   #84
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Yeah, exactly. 30 points isn't anything amazing from the blue end, but it would put him in the top 40 or so.
Give him 1st line pp time for 82 games and hello score 40+ points.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:35 PM   #85
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Damn I saw "trade and Bouwmeester" on the main page and immediately got my hopes up. Too bad it's just another rumor.

I just want him off this team so bad.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:43 PM   #86
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Terrible made up rumor. No way we trade Jay without a solid dman coming back. Please tell me how we could muster an NHL D corp without Jay to eat 25+ mins a nite against the leagues best? Without a good damn coming back.... Terrible trade.
Feaster seems to prefer the 20 minute guys playing a balanced game. Those guys are available via free agency. We would also be clearing 6.8 million and could take on somebody's nasty 1 year contract.

Plus there is a good chance we would be picking Murray, Trouba, or another D that could play right away.

I think it is unlikely Feaster trades a core player for futures. But the man does like his cap space so who knows.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:47 PM   #87
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Give him 1st line pp time for 82 games and hello score 40+ points.
Maybe. But I am not sure why any coach would put somebody on PP1 who can't break a wet paper bag with his shot (assuming he can even hit said paper bag). Having Bouw on the point just makes it easier to cover the others as he poses no threat whatsoever.
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:48 PM   #88
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Terrible made up rumor. No way we trade Jay without a solid dman coming back. Please tell me how we could muster an NHL D corp without Jay to eat 25+ mins a nite against the leagues best? Without a good damn coming back.... Terrible trade.
Got 3 months to take care of that through a trade or more likely signing. This team is in need of financial flexibility more than anything. This is killing two birds with one stone. Save money, get younger. Allows ownership to also take things a step further at the trade deadline next year to have an excuse to rebuild should things not go well until that point. They'll have a few good prospects to build around (Bartschi, Backlund, 4th overall), and can possibly add to that heavily by dealing Iggy and Kipprusoff for a load of blue chip talent. To me, it's a definite win just by freeing up so much salary, but also because it opens the door for a rebuild (which is needed IMO).

I do think the entire idea is a pipedream because the Islanders could go after a better suited d-man, but it is Charles Wang's team, so you never know...maybe they'll extend Bouwmeester's contract by 5 years?
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Old 06-17-2012, 09:59 PM   #89
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Terrible made up rumor. No way we trade Jay without a solid dman coming back. Please tell me how we could muster an NHL D corp without Jay to eat 25+ mins a nite against the leagues best? Without a good damn coming back.... Terrible trade.
Ah thats easy.

Columbus trades #2 and #31 to Edmonton for #1

Since Columbus doesnt want a russian they stab Edmonton in the back.

Columbus sends #1 and Wisniewski to Calgary for Kipper and the #4

Feaster gets Ramo out of Russia and is named GM of the year before the season even starts.
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Give him 1st line pp time for 82 games and hello score 40+ points.
Probably, but that will just be from passing off to good quality players.

The guy isn't a go-to hockey player by any stretch of the imagination.
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Old 06-17-2012, 10:06 PM   #91
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Terrible made up rumor. No way we trade Jay without a solid dman coming back. Please tell me how we could muster an NHL D corp without Jay to eat 25+ mins a nite against the leagues best? Without a good damn coming back.... Terrible trade.
Terrible trade? *Thumbs down*
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Old 06-17-2012, 10:20 PM   #92
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Isles fan here.

Our New York Newsday reporter named Bouwmeester, as one of 4 unworkable contracts.I'm guessing he means they'd be salary dump contracts.

Snow said a few yrs ago,he would only take salary dump contracts if the other team gave him something valuable.

what would the Flames offer for Snow to take on Boumeester's bad contract?

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...ason-1.3786615
There are other defensemen available, according to two NHL sources, but they are veterans playing mediocre hockey on fairly unworkable contracts: the Flames' Jay Bouwmeester, the Canucks' Keith Ballard and possibly the Penguins' Paul Martin and Zbynek Michalek.
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Old 06-17-2012, 10:21 PM   #93
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Not sure why Sutter did not put GIo and Bouw together last year? I really think they would have made a good pairing.
Sutter seemed to have Bouwmeester/Butler as a pairing stuck in his head. No matter what quality Bouwmeester is, Butler definitely dragged down the line, playing some of the hardest minutes in the league (going by QoC numbers).
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Old 06-17-2012, 10:26 PM   #94
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what would the Flames offer for Snow to take on Boumeester's bad contract?
Nothing really, he still has value to the Flames and they would probably keep him over having to give up additional assets to just get rid of him.
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Isles fan here.

Our New York Newsday reporter named Bouwmeester, as one of 4 unworkable contracts.I'm guessing he means they'd be salary dump contracts.

Snow said a few yrs ago,he would only take salary dump contracts if the other team gave him something valuable.

what would the Flames offer for Snow to take on Boumeester's bad contract?

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...ason-1.3786615
There are other defensemen available, according to two NHL sources, but they are veterans playing mediocre hockey on fairly unworkable contracts: the Flames' Jay Bouwmeester, the Canucks' Keith Ballard and possibly the Penguins' Paul Martin and Zbynek Michalek.
The Flames aren't in a position where they need to Move Bouwmeester. So they probably wouldn't add anything for Snow to do us this "favor"
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Old 06-17-2012, 10:27 PM   #96
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Not that I buy this rumor at all...

but if you were in Feaster's shoes what would you want more? The #4 overall pick in this draft or Ryan Strome?
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Isles fan here.

Our New York Newsday reporter named Bouwmeester, as one of 4 unworkable contracts.I'm guessing he means they'd be salary dump contracts.

Snow said a few yrs ago,he would only take salary dump contracts if the other team gave him something valuable.

what would the Flames offer for Snow to take on Boumeester's bad contract?

http://www.newsday.com/sports/hockey...ason-1.3786615
There are other defensemen available, according to two NHL sources, but they are veterans playing mediocre hockey on fairly unworkable contracts: the Flames' Jay Bouwmeester, the Canucks' Keith Ballard and possibly the Penguins' Paul Martin and Zbynek Michalek.
Um, no.

Bouwmeester has value and I would be surprised if Feaster had to beg another GM to take his contract.

To be polite, your GM and owner have a very 'interesting' and 'unique' approach to running a hockey team.

Best for Snow/Wang to call Montreal and see what they will give you to take Gomez.
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The Flames aren't in a position where they need to Move Bouwmeester. So they probably wouldn't add anything for Snow to do us this "favor"
Maybe the Pens with Crosby due a new deal ,will be more willing to give up a good prospect or 2nd rounder if Snow takes Martin or Michalek in a salary dump deal.
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Personally, I think Jay is a great fit for NYI. With Streit on the squad, Jay isn't going to be looked upon as the offensive focal point or PP quarterback. He would be allowed to play the game he has developed into: a big minute, defensive minded player that excels on the breakout. Frankly, on a team with offensive leaders in Tavares and Streit, Jay is a great piece for them. Add to that he is also a big ticket coming to a team that doesn't have the biggest payroll in a rising cap situation and I think Feaster might have himself a dance partner.
I would rather see the flames somehow retain the 14 and also grab that 4 spot, but I fully admit that's being greedy. It would satisfy a lot of people on this board I would think. Immediate rebuild pieces while still keeping most of the core that is capable of playoff contention.
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Not that I buy this rumor at all...

but if you were in Feaster's shoes what would you want more? The #4 overall pick in this draft or Ryan Strome?
If you knew Galchenyuk would be available at #4 this year (which you likely wouldn't) it'd be a tough call.

Since you wouldn't know for sure, I'd probably take Strome over #4 this year.
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