09-14-2011, 05:19 PM
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#101
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Crash and Bang Winger
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If you know her name you can google it click on the link from investigation discovery. These seem to be letters between the two that were presented in the court case.
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09-14-2011, 05:29 PM
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#102
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Self-Retirement
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Pretty easy to find out her name. Took me less than 1 minute with google.
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09-14-2011, 05:31 PM
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#103
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by themedicineman
Quote from Steinke in a letter he wrote to her:
"I love you more than life its self, I've added you to my visitors lists so once your released please visit often. Never forget how much I care or that I love you. We can keep writing each other till we can be together again. Without you this life isn’t worth living… U said you want to get engaged? Then here's a Q...Will U marry me? If so then it is a verbal agreement!"
And this is the reply letter:
"Ahahaha! I never thought I'd find myself hystericaly laughing in a holding cell in these kinds of circumstances...or ever really. But still! ahaha you make me so happy! Yes! Yes! I will, I would love to… Interesting information I came across. Anything you can say to anyone, including a phycistrist, unless issued by a lawyer can be used against you! For f--ks sake. Rawr. The world really is against us."
Just sick. She goes on to talk about them being immortal now that everyone will remember what they did. That is not someone who is wanting to be rehabilitated it's sickening she got surgery done to alter her looks and a free education courtesy of tax payers dollars.
I also was a first year high school student when this took place and you have no idea how many people it affected, especially her friends that were closest to her and the ones that I know personally still really haven't gotten over it completely.
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Those letters were written before her sentencing and were used as exhibits in her trial. Of course she hadn't been rehabilitated yet....because she hadn't actually been through rehabilitation.
http://www.crimecasefiles.com/forum/...in-canada.html
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09-14-2011, 05:40 PM
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#104
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I tend to think that people don't change... especially those with extreme personality problems.
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09-14-2011, 05:42 PM
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#105
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Moscow, ID
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Her letters sound like a 12 year old girl who took on the identity of her 23 year old boyfriend. Definitely not an indication that she can't be rehabilitated. I'd leave that to the people who rehab criminals for a living.
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09-14-2011, 05:54 PM
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#106
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On Hiatus
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler
Ok, here is a challenge to you CP kids in school. $10 to the first one to lay pipe... evidence required.
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How much for the friend
(sorry for the big pic i don't know how to use the spoiler)
This story kinda reminds me of the lawyer that is going to UBC right know after getting out of jail after stabbing his friend 33 times.
Last edited by Violator; 09-15-2011 at 01:47 AM.
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09-14-2011, 06:16 PM
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#107
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Was she given a new name? It's far too easy to find her real name online. One would think that could make her a target. I wouldn't call it much of a second chance if everyone hates your guts.
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09-14-2011, 06:18 PM
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#108
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NOT Chris Butler
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I hope that isn't her, if it is, um, isn't that against some sort of law?
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09-14-2011, 06:33 PM
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#109
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pylon
I hope that isn't her, if it is, um, isn't that against some sort of law?
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It isn't, I had to look it up but that's her best friend from before apparently.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/20...-13338396.html
I think the whole situation is tragic, and I don't think it's the girl's fault. She deserves a chance at a normal life.
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09-14-2011, 07:02 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
I think the whole situation is tragic, and I don't think it's the girl's fault. She deserves a chance at a normal life.
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In "love" or not; she was actively involved in premeditated murder and killed her brother in cold blood as he begged for his life. Its her fault as much as the guy serving multiple life sentences.
She deserves nothing but to be spat on
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09-14-2011, 07:03 PM
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#111
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by macker
Feelings likely mutual. Hopefully she now knows enough to watch out for the crazies on the internet and to stay away from men 10+ years older than her. Unless you are one of these 12 year olds that is married not sure about the humor. Find nothing funny about any of it
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I'd actually care about this sentiment if I didn't think she maaaaybe should have been burned at the stake. As it is, I do not care one iota for her feelings or what she might be scared of. The poor girl.
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09-14-2011, 07:08 PM
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#112
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay
In "love" or not; she was actively involved in premeditated murder and killed her brother in cold blood as he begged for his life. Its her fault as much as the guy serving multiple life sentences.
She deserves nothing but to be spat on
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Yeah, the more you read into it, the more it seems like she was the one who planned it from the beginning. And then there's the bf talking about how she wasn't even upset after they had murdered her entire family.
And now she's going to be a social outcast in university. How will that help the rehab process?
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09-14-2011, 07:26 PM
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#113
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NOT Chris Butler
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For the record, I think she should have been locked up for a long, long time, possibly forever. I remember vividly being 12 and also knowing 100% that killing anything was wrong. I can understand getting a break for shoplifting or vandalism.... something along the normal stupid teen stuff, but at that age, I would have stepped between a killer and my family, not helped in the premeditation of the crime.
I think in certain cases, the "I was young, dumb and easily influenced." just doesn't hold water.
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09-14-2011, 07:46 PM
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#114
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Lethbridge
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I don't care how old she is .......she should get more than 5 years of therapy for stabbing her baby brother.
She should be in the slammer until atleast 30, and make her miss the best years of her life.
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09-14-2011, 08:35 PM
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#115
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: St. Albert
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck
I don't care how old she is .......she should get more than 5 years of therapy for stabbing her baby brother.
She should be in the slammer until atleast 30, and make her miss the best years of her life.
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Personally, I think that upon reaching the age of majority, she should have been stabbed to death...just like her little brother was...
...begging for her miserable life.
But that's just me.
What did "that book" say?
Something about "an eye for an eye"?
Ugh.
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09-14-2011, 09:13 PM
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#116
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
What did "that book" say?
Something about "an eye for an eye"?
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By "that book", I presume you mean The Bible? If so, "that book" said the following, which is actually the exact opposite of what you're advocating:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Matthew 5:38-39
“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.
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"An eye for an eye" originally came from the Code of Hammurabi, written approximately 1500 BC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_Hammurabi
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09-14-2011, 09:57 PM
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#117
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Violator
How much for the friend
(sorry for the big pic i don't know how to use the spoiler)
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Big pic? Are you on a phone?
Also, the username makes this post kind of scary.
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09-14-2011, 10:16 PM
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#118
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ducay
In "love" or not; she was actively involved in premeditated murder and killed her brother in cold blood as he begged for his life. Its her fault as much as the guy serving multiple life sentences.
She deserves nothing but to be spat on
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I disagree, children are easily manipulated and twisted, adults even often can't cope with bad situations and abuse.
A person's brain isn't even done developing until they're in their 20's.
That's why we protect our children and nurture them and teach them while they're growing and learning how to be a part of society instead of just throwing them out there; because they aren't capable of dealing with things yet.
If someone is abusing them and filling their minds with garbage while they're developing their view of the world, why is it their fault if they turn out warped?
"Abused and manipulated, too bad suck it up Sally if you can't deal with a little sexual and psychological abuse too bad for you."
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09-14-2011, 10:22 PM
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#119
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Crash and Bang Winger
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There's being manipulated into using drugs or smoking that age by older kids but being influenced into plotting the death of your family and then carrying it out is a whole different ball park. She knew it was wrong like we all did at that age and she even stabbed her brother while he was begging for his life. No sympathy for her, she should still be in jail and I shouldn't have had to pay for her education that she gets for free when I'm paying full price for mine along with the rest of the people who weren't smart enough to murder their family for a free ride.
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09-14-2011, 10:33 PM
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#120
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by themedicineman
There's being manipulated into using drugs or smoking that age by older kids but being influenced into plotting the death of your family and then carrying it out is a whole different ball park.
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I don't think it is, it's the same thing, just more.
Quote:
Originally Posted by themedicineman
She knew it was wrong like we all did at that age and she even stabbed her brother while he was begging for his life.
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I don't think you can see into her mind anymore than I can, so this is just pure speculation.
People can change and break and become almost inhuman in the right circumstances.. any person, you or me, and we're adults.
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