02-01-2011, 01:42 PM
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#41
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SE Calgary
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Originally Posted by theonlywhiteout
1. No
2. Yes but at a cost... the 330 is 10 a month, and you can use the xbox as a tv box for 5 a month
also, dont use coax for your tv. try and sweet talk your installer to run ethernet. you wil thank me
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Will they be able to fish cat5 into a location where there is only coax?
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02-01-2011, 01:52 PM
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#42
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Scoring Winger
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I had an install booked on Jan 21st and they had a screw up with their dispatch and I didn't get on their list for the install to take place. I was really bummed, but giving them another chance and the first available date for me was on the 7th so here is hoping they don't make another mistake.
I really want this service and being in a new neighborhood I qualify for the best package they can offer. Is there any tips for what I should request/do for when the installer comes? Anything that maybe I should ask for or get changed or get taught by the installer? I saw earlier you gave the tip of the cat5 and I will try to make sure i get that to the TV (didn't run it through the house on building though, wish I would have). Is there anything else like that?
Thanks,
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02-01-2011, 01:53 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
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Get him to set up your remote correctly so it turns the TV and STB off/on with one button.
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02-01-2011, 02:01 PM
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#44
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by oilyfan
Will they be able to fish cat5 into a location where there is only coax?
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Hard to say without being there but if coax already exists I dont see why not. Its just extra work but its worth it. Ethernet is a far better cable than coax, there is no interefence like on coax to make the picture suck
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Originally Posted by Ethaniel
I had an install booked on Jan 21st and they had a screw up with their dispatch and I didn't get on their list for the install to take place. I was really bummed, but giving them another chance and the first available date for me was on the 7th so here is hoping they don't make another mistake.
I really want this service and being in a new neighborhood I qualify for the best package they can offer. Is there any tips for what I should request/do for when the installer comes? Anything that maybe I should ask for or get changed or get taught by the installer? I saw earlier you gave the tip of the cat5 and I will try to make sure i get that to the TV (didn't run it through the house on building though, wish I would have). Is there anything else like that?
Thanks,
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for the installer himself the best and only real advice i can give is make sure they run ethernet instead of coax. this is the key to a great tv experience imo.
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02-01-2011, 02:11 PM
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#45
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by theonlywhiteout
Hard to say without being there but if coax already exists I dont see why not. Its just extra work but its worth it. Ethernet is a far better cable than coax, there is no interefence like on coax to make the picture suck
for the installer himself the best and only real advice i can give is make sure they run ethernet instead of coax. this is the key to a great tv experience imo.
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is this something that I will flat out have to request or will it be given as an option? How annoyed is the guy going to be when i request that he installs everything via ethernet instead of Coax?
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02-01-2011, 02:13 PM
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#46
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: SE Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywhiteout
Hard to say without being there but if coax already exists I dont see why not. Its just extra work but its worth it. Ethernet is a far better cable than coax, there is no interefence like on coax to make the picture suck
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That would be awesome, my main TV is in the living room on the main floor above the fireplace, where the bulder only ran coax. I am hoping that the installer can run cat5 to that location because that is where I want the PVR to be. But I am not optimistic because it is an exterior wall and cable would have to traverse the entire length of the house up from the basement which is finished.
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02-01-2011, 02:27 PM
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#47
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ethaniel
is this something that I will flat out have to request or will it be given as an option? How annoyed is the guy going to be when i request that he installs everything via ethernet instead of Coax?
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He might be annoyed but as the customer you should get what you want. It's really not a huge ask.. everyone at telus and installers know that cat 5 works best. it's literally night and day difference. and yes, 1st thing you should say to the guy when you shake his hand and welcome him into your home is "can you please run cat 5 for my tv". make him a cup of coffee, or a nice little snack if you feel bad
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Originally Posted by oilyfan
That would be awesome, my main TV is in the living room on the main floor above the fireplace, where the bulder only ran coax. I am hoping that the installer can run cat5 to that location because that is where I want the PVR to be. But I am not optimistic because it is an exterior wall and cable would have to traverse the entire length of the house up from the basement which is finished.
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See above
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02-01-2011, 02:43 PM
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#48
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Crash and Bang Winger
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The router uses an HPNA adaptor to run ethernet over coax... so there is no difference at all (as long as the coax is good and not split). If there is good coax, the installer is going to use that.
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02-01-2011, 02:51 PM
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#49
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywhiteout
He might be annoyed but as the customer you should get what you want. It's really not a huge ask.. everyone at telus and installers know that cat 5 works best. it's literally night and day difference.
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It uses ethernet over coax, its not a standard analog signal and there is no difference in picture between the two. (data is data)
As long as the coax is in good shape and it tests ok, the installers will swap out for good compression connectors and that is it.
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02-01-2011, 02:52 PM
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#50
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PsnaP
The router uses an HPNA adaptor to run ethernet over coax... so there is no difference at all (as long as the coax is good and not split). If there is good coax, the installer is going to use that.
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Whoops, took too long to type my reply.....what he said.
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02-01-2011, 02:54 PM
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#51
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Scoring Winger
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So me being in a 2 year old house the Coax would probably be pretty darn good to begin with. Would i see as much of a difference as compared to a 25 year old house?
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02-01-2011, 02:57 PM
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#52
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by Madman
Whoops, took too long to type my reply.....what he said.
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I thought I was a slow typer.
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02-01-2011, 03:07 PM
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#53
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ethaniel
So me being in a 2 year old house the Coax would probably be pretty darn good to begin with. Would i see as much of a difference as compared to a 25 year old house?
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No not really, as long as the coax is good and has no splitters in it, it will be just fine. The techs will test the coax first and replace all the ends to ensure a good signal.
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02-01-2011, 03:09 PM
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#54
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PsnaP
The router uses an HPNA adaptor to run ethernet over coax... so there is no difference at all (as long as the coax is good and not split). If there is good coax, the installer is going to use that.
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Yeah it's ethernet so the quality should either be exactly the same as a cat5 line, or if it's dropping packets, then the video will drop out and stutter.
I'd never thought of a coax-ethernet adapter, even if I don't do Optik this might be useful.
Do you know if they have service out in Chestermere?
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02-01-2011, 03:25 PM
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#55
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Calgary.
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Originally Posted by wooohooo
My parents had the Telus pre-optik stuff and it was a nightmare. However, after they switched to Optik, I honestly think it's better than shaw. A lot more user friendly but I haven't really had the chance to really test it out.
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I cannot begin to describe how horrible, painful and utterly useless TelusTV was. It was the absolute worse consumer product I've ever used. Worst EVER.
That said, to hear so many glowing (long term) reviews for Optik, I can't help but consider switching back.
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02-01-2011, 03:47 PM
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#56
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Crash and Bang Winger
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The old platform did have issues.. I can agree to that. I had TTV since about day 1, Optik is by far the best platform TELUS has used... just awesome.
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02-01-2011, 04:07 PM
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#57
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CP Gamemaster
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: The Gary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywhiteout
He might be annoyed but as the customer you should get what you want. It's really not a huge ask.. everyone at telus and installers know that cat 5 works best. it's literally night and day difference.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PsnaP
The router uses an HPNA adaptor to run ethernet over coax... so there is no difference at all (as long as the coax is good and not split). If there is good coax, the installer is going to use that.
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These two posts in succession are pretty funny. Good thing we know who actually works for Telus here.
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02-01-2011, 04:50 PM
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#58
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Calgary
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If you think analog coax gives as good signal as digital ethernet I have some land in new jersey to sell you.
One of the first fixes a tech will do if the install quality is bad is switch from coax to Ethernet cable.
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02-01-2011, 05:38 PM
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#59
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Crash and Bang Winger
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I didnt know there way such a thing as analog coax... I thought it was just a medium to transmit a signal.
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02-01-2011, 05:42 PM
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#60
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Calgary
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I like Optic, but the thing that sucks is I live in a building right downtown, and only get 1HD channel... I would have figured downtown buildings would all have the higher services.
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