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Old 08-03-2008, 04:42 PM   #1
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A UK money order that's made out in $CDN

We deposited it on Sat am. The teller told us it would 30 business days to clear. Looked at her with a expression. Some other person came out from the back, told us they could do it in 25 days. After a lot of toing and froing it went from 20 -> 15 -> 10 days.

Why all the arbitrary numbers? It either is 30 days or it isn't. Also it's my understanding that a money order in $CDN regardless of where it's from has already been drawn against a Canadian bank and should be treated much the same as an ordinary cheque re. clearance time (~4days). Is this correct?

Is the bank just making interest out of our money when we should be?

It's a decent sized cheque but not significant enough to warrant any money laundering sort of investigation prior to clearance.
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Old 08-03-2008, 04:57 PM   #2
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Why all the arbitrary numbers? It either is 30 days or it isn't.
A lot has to do with your standing as a customer. Even with the 10 day hold, if it comes back for some reason 20 days later the bank can still reverse the charges and ask for the money back.
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Old 08-03-2008, 05:24 PM   #3
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It's probably because of the extensive number of scams using money orders from overseas.
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Old 08-03-2008, 05:33 PM   #4
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A money order drawn on a foreign bank is a collection item and it probably will take longer than 10 days for your bank to receive credit for the item. The manager likely looked at your account history and made a judgement call. Sometimes a foreign bank has accounts with banks in other major countries, so there could be a bank in Canada that can pay out for these money orders, in which case, ten days is long enough because the item would no longer have to be sent as a collection item.
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Old 08-03-2008, 05:38 PM   #5
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It's a piece of paper. Even if the bank it was purchased from says it's "guarenteed funds", it's not looked upon that way from the cashing bank. If it's foreign currency, that's a whole different ball game.

Regardless. It will take time. Usually cheque clearing time frame as far as what I'm used to is 5 days for CDN, 30 days for all other currency.
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Old 08-03-2008, 05:39 PM   #6
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Why are you using money orders?
Wouldn't something like Western Union be faster?
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Old 08-03-2008, 06:12 PM   #7
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You didnt happen to have fallen in with any estranged Nigerian Princes did you?
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Old 08-03-2008, 07:11 PM   #8
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Thanks for the replies.

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A lot has to do with your standing as a customer. Even with the 10 day hold, if it comes back for some reason 20 days later the bank can still reverse the charges and ask for the money back.
Standings good, never had issues and done many prior transactions using xe.com with no problems.

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It's probably because of the extensive number of scams using money orders from overseas.
That's the only thing I can rationilize it to.

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A money order drawn on a foreign bank is a collection item and it probably will take longer than 10 days for your bank to receive credit for the item. The manager likely looked at your account history and made a judgement call. Sometimes a foreign bank has accounts with banks in other major countries, so there could be a bank in Canada that can pay out for these money orders, in which case, ten days is long enough because the item would no longer have to be sent as a collection item.
But from my understanding from a friend who works in banking over there is that the Canadian bank that the UK one deals with collects on it more or less right away (next day). He says that as the order is in $CDN it should be treated the same as an ordinary cheque re. clearing.

He put it like this. If a customer was to walk into his UK bank with a money order from a Canadian bank in UK pounds to deposit in his account the cheque would clear in 3-4 business days.

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It's a piece of paper. Even if the bank it was purchased from says it's "guarenteed funds", it's not looked upon that way from the cashing bank. If it's foreign currency, that's a whole different ball game.

Regardless. It will take time. Usually cheque clearing time frame as far as what I'm used to is 5 days for CDN, 30 days for all other currency.
It's CDN hence why I'm wondering why it's taking >5 days.

So if it's not "guaranteed funds" then what then is the point of money orders?

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Why are you using money orders?
Wouldn't something like Western Union be faster?
Just returned from Europe. As I said the information I was given over there was that the cheque should be treated like an ordinary cheque re. clearing times as it was in CDN.

Never used Western Union. I like XE rates as you can lock in rates and have never had any issues.

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You didnt happen to have fallen in with any estranged Nigerian Princes did you?
That's why I want this to clear so quickly. I told the bank they'd be sorry for the inconvenience when the $47M arrives next week.


I still don't get why it's so long and even more so the arbitrary 30-25-20-15 days they were telling me. Even googling says it should be no more than 5.

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How long does a money order take to clear once it is deposited?

The more practical question is when you can have access to funds you've deposited to your checking account in the form of a money order. If it's a U.S. Postal Service money order, you should get next-business-day access. Otherwise, funds from money orders payable at banks in the local check processing region should be available on the second business day following the day you deposit the money order; those drawn on more distant banks might take five business days for you to access the funds.
http://www.bankingquestions.com/chec...q_moclear.html
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Old 08-03-2008, 08:00 PM   #9
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Why are you using money orders?
Wouldn't something like Western Union be faster?
using western union for a transaction like that can be extremely pricey!
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Old 08-03-2008, 08:13 PM   #10
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using western union for a transaction like that can be extremely pricey!
Aren't money orders pricey too?
I guess it depends how much is being sent which I don't think the OP mentioned.

Any extra charge is better than waiting 30 days!
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:23 PM   #11
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Usually a money order is good right away. There is a validation number that a person can check if money order is legit or not. Once Canada Post said yes it is legit then transaction is done.
Maybe there is a difference with having to send money order outside the country but I highly doubted it. I used money order before and never have any problem. Our company also accepted some money order before as well and all I have to do is phone Canada Post and give them validation number and once she said it's good, off i go to the bank.
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Old 08-03-2008, 10:30 PM   #12
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Usually a money order is good right away. There is a validation number that a person can check if money order is legit or not.
Yeah, that's what I believe. The way I'm seeing it at the moment is the bank's trying basically to earn interest of my money hence the initial 30 days down to the present 10 day time period after we protested.

It's that all of a sudden they could process it in 20 business days less than the initial time period quoted that's making me suspicious.

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