U.N.: Israeli airstrike hits U.N. observer post

[Go4Gold]

And yesterday they hit a clearly marked ambulance, WTF, so much for 'measured' retaliation. Granted the Hezbollah have kidnapped 2 solders, but what is not reported is that Israel kidnapped 2 Lebanese citizens days before (a doctor and his son). Israel bombs the crap out of Lebanon 400+ die, Hazebollah shoots 100's of missles into Israel, hundreds injured a few are dead. Really getting tired of this BS over there. Both sides are wrong and both should pay for this with their freedom of having their own country. I say the UN take over Lebanon, Israel and Palestine. They could not get along, too bad. Treat them like little kids that they are. Anyone else see this similar to what happened in Kosovo? And the UN, its time you stand up to the US, you are supposed to be the world police, change your procedures.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/...ain/index.html

[flylock shox]

Israel wouldn't know "measured retaliation" if it walked up and gave them firm, yet-not-too-firm, smack in the face.

That said, I don't know how this could be intentional, as Annan said, as it simply makes no sense for Israel to do anything of the kind. On the other hand, with the weapons they've got and the knowledge they possessed, it's also hard to see how it could have been unintentional. Unless, of course, it wasn't Israel's rocket...

[Canada 02]

among the dead is a Canadian

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../National/home

Rescue workers were trying to clear the rubble but Israeli firing "continued even during the rescue operation," Mr. Struger said.

As reports of the attack emerged, Mr. Annan rushed out of a hotel in Rome following a dinner with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Lebanese Prime Minister Fuad Saniora.

"I am shocked and deeply distressed by the apparently deliberate targeting by Israeli Defence Forces of a UN observer post in southern Lebanon," Mr. Annan said in a statement later.

Mr. Annan said in his statement the post had been there for a long time and was marked clearly and was hit, despite assurances from Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert that UN positions would not be attacked.

"I call on the government of Israel to conduct a full investigation into this very disturbing incident and demand that any further attack on UN positions and personnel must stop," Mr. Annan said in the statement.

[Azure]

UN taking over Israel? What exactly are you smoking? The UN can't even control its OWN peacekeepers, and has made a mockery of itself too many times when called upon for military action.

In order to "secure" peace, you first must "want" peace. I don't think its even possible for either side to negotiate peace; even if Israel wanted too, you think Hezbollah, a terrorist organization would?

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Azure

The UN can't even control its OWN peacekeepers, and has made a mockery of itself too many times when called upon for military action.

The UN is only as effective as the member-states who drive it. If the UN fails, its because its drivers didn't make it succeed.

I believe in Rwanda UN officials were screaming for intervention, it was the member-states that refused to intervene. The 'UN' is a bureaucracy, not a government. If the Security Council decides to intervene, it happens. If they don't, it doesn't. I know I said this in another thread last week (in response to you), but you must have missed it.

I'll cut and paste this for you, since it seems this will be a running theme in your posts, it'll save me typing time later.

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Azure

UN taking over Israel? What exactly are you smoking? The UN can't even control its OWN peacekeepers, and has made a mockery of itself too many times when called upon for military action.

In order to "secure" peace, you first must "want" peace. I don't think its even possible for either side to negotiate peace; even if Israel wanted too, you think Hezbollah, a terrorist organization would?

The usefulness of the UN is not in question here. I think that we all agree that the UN is only as strong as any member of the Security Council lets them to be. There needs to be an overhaul of this system before it has any sort of practical use.

The question is:

WHY would Israel drop a laser guided bomb onto a clearly marked UN outpost? Was the UN operating in civilian areas? Were there Hezbollah in the outpost?

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Regorium

There needs to be an overhaul of this system before it has any sort of practical use.

There needs to be an overhaul of international political will before any comprehensive international security organization can be effective. If the will of the international community isn't there, no organization could do this job, UN or otherwise.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Regorium

The usefulness of the UN is not in question here. I think that we all agree that the UN is only as strong as any member of the Security Council lets them to be. There needs to be an overhaul of this system before it has any sort of practical use.

The question is:

WHY would Israel drop a laser guided bomb onto a clearly marked UN outpost? Was the UN operating in civilian areas? Were there Hezbollah in the outpost?

Not only was it clearly marked, but it was pummelled for a long time before everyone was actually killed. There were like a dozen attacks on the outpost.

I don't want to think USS Liberty...

[Table 5]

That's it Israel, no space rods for you.

[Looger]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I don't want to think USS Liberty...

nobody ever does.

that's the problem.

israel is never taken to task for the myriad of abuses it commits, some of them very sick.

they have AIPAC and the media's ear. plus the subconcious aquiesence of people that grew up singing psalms with the word 'israel' in them 20 to a page.

not holding israel to the standards of other countries in the region is a major reason people are so ****y over there.

iran is a member of the non-proliferation treaty for example, a functioning member.

USS liberty was startlingly sickening - machine-gunning surviving american sailors in lifejackets, OH MY GOD.

but does that even really compare to a zionist power structure that started hostilities on purpose with their arab neighbours and friends, by declaring to the world that they would colonize them and chase them off land and kill those that wouldn't get out of the way in the first zionist congress of 1897?

sickest of all in my opinion was the high-level cooperation between zionist leaders and nazis - unbelievable really. all those fleeing the horrors of hitler, to palestine, into a situation not of their own making. they weren't looking for more war, but the theodor hertl's and the chazz weizsmann's (sp?) had other ideas. war was a guarantee. what had gone on in palestine in the early 20th century had been nothing short of ethnic cleansing. these sick ****os have never been taken to task, and the heirs to their atrocities still run israel today.

here's a lovely picture of israeli children sending notes to their neighbours:

[Table 5]

looger, any insight on how this is connected to 9/11? is there a video i could possibly purchase?

[Looger]

Azure? Is that you?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Looger

Azure? Is that you?

Capital letters!!!

[Looger]

Originally Posted by peter12

Capital letters!!!

once in a while i slip up.

professional / personal, you know!

probably won't happen again...

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by Table 5

looger, any insight on how this is connected to 9/11? is there a video i could possibly purchase?

Now, was that really required?

[peter12]

Originally Posted by Regorium

The usefulness of the UN is not in question here. I think that we all agree that the UN is only as strong as any member of the Security Council lets them to be. There needs to be an overhaul of this system before it has any sort of practical use.

The question is:

WHY would Israel drop a laser guided bomb onto a clearly marked UN outpost? Was the UN operating in civilian areas? Were there Hezbollah in the outpost?

Have you ever heard of the fog of war? Friendly fire incidents are unfortunately a regular happen stance in war. The other day IDF accidently shelled one its own APCs and wounded some soldiers.



That's Hizbollah's flag beside the UN flag. There are reports that a Hizbollah base was located near the UN observation post, as well as reports that Hizbollah and UN people were on the same water and telephone system.

Doesn't this remind anyone of Peter Hansen and his admission of having Hamas people on his staff? Even after there was evidence that Hamas was using UN marked ambulances to ship missiles and arms.

[Looger]

israel does not want witnesses in the area.

[Bleeding Red]

Originally Posted by Looger

not holding israel to the standards of other countries in the region is a major reason people are so ****y over there.

The Human rights watchdogs - Human rights Watch, Amnisty Int., etc.- continuously rank Israel as one of the worst human rights abusers - ahead of the like of North Korea, Iran, Sierra Leone, Zimbabwe, China. Israel has been singled out more than any other country at the UN.

In the meantime - Palestinian refugees have their very own UN department (unlike Rwandan, Bosnian, or Kurdish refugees). There have been state sponsored executions in Gaza (Arafat's brother, the former PA Gaza Governor was dragged out into the street and sumarily shot by Hamas forces), Canadians have been tortured in Saudi Arabia and killed in Iran - where is the world outcry again?

Better check which side of the double standard you are on.

iran is a member of the non-proliferation treaty for example, a functioning member.

Yet is doing everything it can to get ahold of nuclear weapons for the express purpose of launching a first strike against Israel - so much for that treaty.

USS liberty was startlingly sickening - machine-gunning surviving american sailors in lifejackets, OH MY GOD.

A Quality source please?

but does that even really compare to a zionist power structure that started hostilities on purpose with their arab neighbours and friends, by declaring to the world that they would colonize them and chase them off land and kill those that wouldn't get out of the way in the first zionist congress of 1897?

You just keep posting that lie and I will just keep supplying the quote from that congress - "The aim of Zionism is to create for the Jewish people a home in Eretz*-Israel secured by International law."

Israel accepted the UN partition plan - the Arab countries declared war.

sickest of all in my opinion was the high-level cooperation between zionist leaders and nazis - unbelievable really. all those fleeing the horrors of hitler, to palestine, into a situation not of their own making. they weren't looking for more war, but the theodor hertl's and the chazz weizsmann's (sp?) had other ideas. war was a guarantee.

Standard anti-semetic rhetoric - blame the victums for the Holocaust, The Jews were in on it.

what had gone on in palestine in the early 20th century had been nothing short of ethnic cleansing.

FACT - the only ethnicly cleansed areas of the world are Saudia Arabia, Syria, Libya and the Gaza Strip - all are Judenrein - WITHOUT JEWS.
Jews cannot live or travel to the first three countries - and war accounts for the Jews currently in Gaza.

In Israel, however - Muslims, Christians, Bhudists, B'Hai, Wiccans, peoples of African, Vietnamese, Latin American, and Caucasian decent, people of different sexual orientation all live as best they can together.

How many Bosnian Muslim refugees were allowed in Syria? Saudi Arabia? Iran? A few planes full found saftey and comfort in Israel.

Please tell me, when was the Gay Pride day held in Syria? Saudi Arabia? Iran? Egypt? Israel has one every year - this year likely in Jerusalem!

Are women voting in Syria? Iran? Saudi Arabia? They are in Israel.

here's a lovely picture of israeli children sending notes to their neighbours:

Ranks up there with the pics of Palestinian Children dressed as homacide bombers.

Your post has clearly over stepped the bounds of anti-Israel government and anti-Israel policy comments. Accusing Jews of activly working with the Third Riech and ethnic cleansing has malicious and anti-semetic overtones.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Crap like this happens. It shouldn't but it does. Remember when NATO forces bombed the Chinese embassy.....I think it was in the Balkans. It's bad intel and happy trigger fingers.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by peter12

Have you ever heard of the fog of war? Friendly fire incidents are unfortunately a regular happen stance in war. The other day IDF accidently shelled one its own APCs and wounded some soldiers.

Oh thanks for clearing it up for us. I am sure all the people of Lebanon involved in this "war" will appreciate getting there house/family blown up more if they knew this. Maybe Isreali childeren can write this on the next batch of shells they send into Lebanon.

Lebanon should send body parts to Isreal for childeren to sign.