09-29-2008, 11:41 AM
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#1 Goaltender
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I'm in the same boat...getting pretty good at learning tabs and whatnot, but no theory. I'd like to learn some theory as well so I'm not just mimicing what I read in a tab or hear on CD.
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09-29-2008, 11:42 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: in transit
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Sorry guys, but it doesn't happen.
I've been playing for ten years and I still really, really suck.
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09-29-2008, 11:57 AM
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It's not easy being green!
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: In the tubes to Vancouver Island
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Take lessons?
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Who is in charge of this product and why haven't they been fired yet?
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09-29-2008, 12:02 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vancouver
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Its one of those things you will always feel room for improvement. I've been playing for about 7 years, and while I'm much better than when I started, I still don't feel like a great guitar player.
I think you just have to push yourself to try things you find intimidating. For me, I have a bad tendency to keep playing rythym and not trying to much lead stuff...I need to step outside my comfort zone and try to learn a few complex solos.
If I were you I'd buy a couple lesson books, and download some tabs for songs you find challenging, and just put in the time.
Also, one thing that can raise your game is playing with others. If you play with someone who is better than you, you start to learn to keep up.
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09-29-2008, 12:27 PM
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Dances with Wolves
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Section 304
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The only time I noticed any significant improvement was when I took lessons. Unfortunately I ran out of time and never took them again.
*kicks self*
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09-29-2008, 12:32 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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take lessons
and practice, practice, practice
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09-29-2008, 12:46 PM
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#9
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: YSJ (1979-2002) -> YYC (2002-2022) -> YVR (2022-present)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MelBridgeman
take lessons
and practice, practice, practice
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^^ THIS
I started playing guitar when I was 12. I took beginner lessons for about six months and was taught the basics -- how to play the most commonly-used chords, how to care for my instrument (changing strings, etc.), and how to play a few songs. After that, I was self-taught for the next 15 years, learning to play new songs by looking up tabs/chords on the web. I started taking lessons again about a year ago, and I can easily say that I learned more in three months than I did in the previous 15 years.
Finding a good teacher is key, though. Any fool can teach you playing technique and how to play your favourite rock songs. What you want is someone who really knows their music theory and can teach you different scales and modes and when to use them. It may be more boring and not as instantly-gratifying as learning your favourite songs right away, but it will make you a MUCH better player in the long run.
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09-29-2008, 01:59 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: The wagon's name is "Gaudreau"
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Royal Conservatory ftw
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09-29-2008, 02:14 PM
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CP's Fraser Crane
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarchHare
^^ THIS
I started playing guitar when I was 12. I took beginner lessons for about six months and was taught the basics -- how to play the most commonly-used chords, how to care for my instrument (changing strings, etc.), and how to play a few songs. After that, I was self-taught for the next 15 years, learning to play new songs by looking up tabs/chords on the web. I started taking lessons again about a year ago, and I can easily say that I learned more in three months than I did in the previous 15 years.
Finding a good teacher is key, though. Any fool can teach you playing technique and how to play your favourite rock songs. What you want is someone who really knows their music theory and can teach you different scales and modes and when to use them. It may be more boring and not as instantly-gratifying as learning your favourite songs right away, but it will make you a MUCH better player in the long run.
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^^^ Yup
ALso a couple other things... Is that I found a loop pedal has helped me a bunch. Loop a CHord Progression and learn to play over top of it.
Also jamming with other musicians (who are better then you) will help too, dont worry about being the worst player there, because thats how you will learn.
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09-29-2008, 03:16 PM
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Atomic Nerd
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Igottago
I think you just have to push yourself to try things you find intimidating. For me, I have a bad tendency to keep playing rythym and not trying to much lead stuff...I need to step outside my comfort zone and try to learn a few complex solos.
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That's funny, I have a tendancy to only play solos and lead and not know how to play rhythm whatsoever.
We really need a CP guitar club or get together to help each other. There seems to be a lot of people who want to learn and play with others. That book club manages to meet somehow. Why can't us guitarists get it down?
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09-29-2008, 03:20 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
That's funny, I have a tendancy to only play solos and lead and not know how to play rhythm whatsoever.
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My little brother's the same way. We were in a band together for a few years and he played lead while i played rythm and wrote the songs. The kid was a prodigy like crazy good, but learned all by ear and doesnt know theory for crap. But he cant tune a guitar from any randomness to standard tuning with nothing but a pick.
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09-29-2008, 03:44 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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I improved greatly this year buy getting a quality guitar that is easier to play. Now I play every day. Practice, practice, practice.
I read in This Is Your Brain On Music, that anyone can become a virtuoso, by putting in 10,000 hours of practice.
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09-29-2008, 03:45 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
That's funny, I have a tendancy to only play solos and lead and not know how to play rhythm whatsoever.
We really need a CP guitar club or get together to help each other. There seems to be a lot of people who want to learn and play with others. That book club manages to meet somehow. Why can't us guitarists get it down?
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That's a good idea.
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09-29-2008, 05:54 PM
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One of the Nine
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My uncle, who is a seasoned and extremely proficient guitar player, told me two things I would need to do for sure if I ever wanted to get near his level of mastery:
1. Learn the fret-board top to bottom
2. Learn all of the ways to play every note (ie., all of the variations that exist to play a single chord)
He also mentioned that 10000 hours thing.
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09-29-2008, 06:19 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
That's funny, I have a tendancy to only play solos and lead and not know how to play rhythm whatsoever.
We really need a CP guitar club or get together to help each other. There seems to be a lot of people who want to learn and play with others. That book club manages to meet somehow. Why can't us guitarists get it down?
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Im down for that.
Also hack it is key to know rythm for learning to play lead.
I really dont read much music, but im pretty familiar with the pentatonic scale, as well as some modes like phrygian and lydian.
(don't get me started about locrian or mixolydian)
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09-29-2008, 06:29 PM
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#20
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All I can get
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Motion seconded by troutman....
I hereby propose the formation of the CalgaryPluckers...
First order of business: a Club Constitution.
There ought to be a law with no bail
Smash a guitar and you go to jail
With no chance for early parole
You don't get out 'til you get some soul.
There must be a neighbourhood establishment with a Jam Night somewheres...
Last edited by Reggie Dunlop; 09-29-2008 at 06:34 PM.
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