Republican-Controlled Committee Legislates That Climate Change Does Not Exist

[Tinordi]

http://www.care2.com/causes/global-w...oes-not-exist/

...Comically, as Joe Romm noted yesterday, one of the committee members voting against the amendments John Shimkus (R-IL), cites the Bible as his reason for rejecting climate science. "God said the earth would not be destroyed in a flood." Another, Michael Burgess (R-TX), cited an online public opinion poll (in and of itself an unscientific way of sampling opinion data) as reason for rejecting the science of global warming. Making matters worse, it turns out the particular poll was targeted by well-known climate science denial website Watt's Up With That in a campaign to skew the results.

...So, on the one hand we have virtually every credible government and nongovernmental science organization in the developed world reaffirming the fundamental science behind global warming is sound. On the other hand, you have an online poll that was co-opted by a well-known science denial blog. Who would you believe? Apparently the opinion poll, if you are a Republican member of the House Energy and Commerce Committee.

"The denial of science has taken deep root on the Committee," said Rep. Waxman (D-CA) in a recent talk he gave at the Center for American Progress. Even more troubling is the amount of money taken by Energy and Commerce Committee Republicans from major polluters with a stake in undermining the scientific consensus about climate change.

Haha, the bible and an online poll as proof. We'll get whatever we deserve.

[WilsonFourTwo]

Maybe they're right.



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I highly doubt it, but anything's possible.
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[Vulcan]

Even more troubling is the amount of money taken by Energy and Commerce Committee Republicans from major polluters with a stake in undermining the scientific consensus about climate change.

I believe the majority of American Senators and representatives are bought off. The Republicans are just more blatant.
Not saying we don't have our share of crooks either.

[evman150]

Originally Posted by WilsonFourTwo

Maybe they're right.



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I highly doubt it, but anything's possible.
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Being right for the wrong reason doesn't count.

[calgaryred]

I don't believe in global warming, and there are many that don't

[Yasa]

Climate change doesn't exist? I'm fairly certain it's beeing going on for...ever?

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Can they legislate that the clouds are made of cotton candy too?

Do I believe in climate change? You're damn right I do. I remember 10 years ago when it was nice and warm for a week in September thinking "well this is a nice change it's never going to last!" While I was correct that the week didn't last, it actually grew to not getting snow until November 29th this year. I remember having white Christmases and snow days in November. Those days are gone.

I remember getting the freak snowstorms in May and the odd one in June. Not anymore.

Is the climate changing? You're damn right it is.

Is it because of industry and pollution? Probably, but I don't know the answer to that.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by calgaryred

I don't believe in global warming, and there are many that don't

... therefore, it doesn't exist?

[Hack&Lube]

I'm not on the short-term anthropomorphic climate change bandwagon but these people are just idiots which is what happens when democracy is overrun by populism. Demagogy will be the fall of mankind.

[BloodFetish]

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[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Can they legislate that the clouds are made of cotton candy too?

Do I believe in climate change? You're damn right I do. I remember 10 years ago when it was nice and warm for a week in September thinking "well this is a nice change it's never going to last!" While I was correct that the week didn't last, it actually grew to not getting snow until November 29th this year. I remember having white Christmases and snow days in November. Those days are gone.

I remember getting the freak snowstorms in May and the odd one in June. Not anymore.

Is the climate changing? You're damn right it is.

Is it because of industry and pollution? Probably, but I don't know the answer to that.

The problem with using anecdotal evidence as an argument is that it goes both ways and those with the most anecdotal evidence win (eg. the record breaking cold snap in NE USA).

There is plenty of hard, clear, transparent, undeniable scientific data to support the FACT (not theory, argument or belief) that GLOBAL WARMING is taking place at an exagerated pace because of human activities.

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

I'm not on the short-term anthropomorphic climate change bandwagon but these people are just idiots which is what happens when democracy is overrun by populism. Demagogy will be the fall of mankind.

You seem like a reasonable guy. Why would you not be on the train? Pretty hard not to be when you actually read up on it.

[photon]

Originally Posted by calgaryred

I don't believe in global warming, and there are many that don't

And you might be right or you might be wrong. You might not believe it because you haven't seen all the info (personal incredulity), or have the info that leads you to your conclusion, but you probably don't disbelieve because God promised no more floods in the OT.. I hope anyway.

[Thor]

So tired of this, the issue has become partisan and makes people make judgments on this issue based on who's websites they visit.

We need to clean up our act. Ok don't believe in global warming, fine. How about air quality, water quality and the destruction of our bio diversity and very bio diverse areas.

We have to clean up our act, we can even do it and create jobs and turn it into something very positive for our economies and of course for the environment.

Instead we're stuck with this ridiculous non debate where each side does talking points from politicians, while most people don't have a clue about the science nor that scientists are in the vast majority in agreement.

So many people have doubt, simply by hearing there's 'doubt' from the media thanks to the excellent campaigns against global warming science, credit is due for those people and the work they've done.

Now if you can't 'believe' in this, fine we should and need to dramatically change our ways in the next 50-100yrs in order to deal with the loss of oil, the need to clean our environment up. Ultimately we need to live on this planet without depleting all our natural resources.

This isn't hippy crap, this is simple truth. Don't trust climate science, fine ask the biologists all over the world how the health of nature is, ask oceanologists what they think of the fate of our oceans.

Sad thing is I think we need some big breakthroughs in science in the next 50yrs from the same people many of you choose to not believe in; in order to find ways to get rid of our need for oil, coal and the many other things harming our planet.

[arloiginla]

I'm actually just doing a research inquiry project on global warming, whether or not it is really happening, should it be a cause for concern, etc.

After I've done some digging and am finished I'll let you guys know what I come up with.

Actually, if anyone has any recommendations on resources I'd greatly appreciate it.

[calgaryred]

Originally Posted by SebC

... therefore, it doesn't exist?

if I don't believe it then I don't believe it exists

if you don't believe in God, then to you it doesn't exist

[Tinordi]

Do you believe in evolution? Subatomic particles?

[Boblobla]

I was just thinking with the neo-nazi racism thread ramping down it was time for a nice religion/global warming discussion.

[Vulcan]

I don't believe in the Cedar tree outside my window. It's getting so damn big, it's blocking my view. I'm going to continue not believing in it, in the hope it goes away.

[LokeyD]

Climate change is the new way to discuss global warming, as humans influence the quantity of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere it could lead to areas becoming colder, drier, wetter, warmer etc.