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Old 11-12-2008, 03:15 PM   #1
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Paternity tests prove hundreds of men duped


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EXCLUSIVE by Kelvin Bissett
November 11, 2008 12:00am

MOTHERS are being forced to pay back as much as $60,000 to men they wrongly claimed fathered their children following a contentious reform of child support laws.
The Daily Telegraph can reveal 18 men, cleared by DNA testing, have made use of changes permitting them to claw back funds paid through the Child Support Agency.
More than 300 men have been cleared by DNA of being fathers. Documents obtained under Freedom of Information show orders for $171,567 to be returned have so far been made against the mothers.

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Old 11-12-2008, 03:19 PM   #2
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That's the whole article. You should just quote a pertinent section then link to the full article.
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This could make for the greatest episode of Maury Povich ever.
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But making mothers pay back child support was last night condemned by women's groups.
Sole Parent's Union president Kathleen Swinbourne said garnisheeing a mother's wages would only hurt the child.
"The money has already been spent on rearing the child," she said. "If the mother is forced to pay it back, its hard to imagine the child won't be disadvantaged."
So... borrowing this logic... If I stole $60,000 from Kathleen Swinbourne, she would walk away, saying, "Oh it's OK you have a child to raise. I don't want you to pay me back the money."

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Old 11-12-2008, 03:31 PM   #5
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So... borrowing this logic... If I stole $60,000 from Kathleen Swinbourne, she would then walk away, saying, "Oh it's OK he has a child to raise. I don't want him to pay me back the money."

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Maybe the support due from the actual father can be subrogated to the wrongly accused father.
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They should almost just make paternity tests mandatory. I read an article in a scientific publication back when I was taking genetics in university and there was at least one study that found something like 20% of children have non-biological fathers and don't know it.
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Maybe the support due from the actual father can be subrogated to the wrongly accused father.
That would actually make a lot of sense. Like the article also says, the mother should (hopefully) know who else she slept with 9 months before the kid was born.
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I think it's about time something like this was put into place. Far to many women lie to men just because they know they'll do the right thing and pay for the kid. And it's bull that the woman doesn't have to pay it back at the same rate it was given to her...$12.70/fortnight?? That's ridiculous.
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That would actually make a lot of sense. Like the article also says, the mother should (hopefully) know who else she slept with 9 months before the kid was born.
In theory, you would think so...but simply watching an episode of Maury would tell otherwise...women who have had 20+ men tested and still haven't found the father of their baby.
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Why not blood test everyone at birth against the father!
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That would actually make a lot of sense. Like the article also says, the mother should (hopefully) know who else she slept with 9 months before the kid was born.
In high school there was on girl in my class who got pregnant. She wasn't sure who the father was. I guess there had been a wild camping trip, and it could have been a couple of guys.
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Have to test them all then!

...and next time use a video camera for... evidence...
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They should almost just make paternity tests mandatory. I read an article in a scientific publication back when I was taking genetics in university and there was at least one study that found something like 20% of children have non-biological fathers and don't know it.
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They should almost just make paternity tests mandatory. I read an article in a scientific publication back when I was taking genetics in university and there was at least one study that found something like 20% of children have non-biological fathers and don't know it.
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Genetic Technologies conducts more than half of all the paternity tests undertaken in Australia. Its business development manager, Ian Smith, said its negative rate was about 20 per cent.
Now these are from cases where the tests were requested, so the sample is biased. But it is interesting.
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Dammit!!!

Here I thought I got through the 80s safe and sound, sleeping with hundreds of women.

No lawsuits, no sudden calls of "I'm late"... nothing.

I was lucky as each one either had a better looking or richer "second" choice!

Damn my velvet tongue! I am hooped!
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http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthr...ight=paternity


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Female infidelity is common in the animal kingdom as well as among humans. According to an analysis of 280 000 paternity tests conducted in 1999 by the American Association of Blood Banks, approximately 30% of children are fathered by extra-pair copulations; that is, 30% of children in this sample were fathered by someone other than the woman’s long-term romantic partner.

Because of concealed ovulation, internal fertilization, and female infidelity, human parental certainty is asymmetrical: unlike females, who are always 100% certain of maternity, males can never be certain of paternity. Current estimates of extra-pair paternity (paternity by someone other than the putative and domestic father, or ####oldry) are between 1 and 30%, with the best estimate at about 10%
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I think this is why some cultures make your sisters eldest son, your heir.
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I love it when special interest groups pervert their message like this.

So, really, forcing people who committed FRAUD to payback their ill-gotten gains is a bad thing because the fraudsters are women. These hypocritical women's groups need to learn that a woman is not always innocent just because she is a woman. As for any hardships suffered by the kids as a result, guess who's to blame? Mom.
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I love it when special interest groups pervert their message like this.

So, really, forcing people who committed FRAUD to payback their ill-gotten gains is a bad thing because the fraudsters are women. These hypocritical women's groups need to learn that a woman is not always innocent just because she is a woman. As for any hardships suffered by the kids as a result, guess who's to blame? Mom.
Its tough to get justice for the non-father while not hurting the child. I'd say we just burn them at the stake like witches except making orphans IMO is worse than being out even a wack of cash.
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I love it when special interest groups pervert their message like this.

So, really, forcing people who committed FRAUD to payback their ill-gotten gains is a bad thing because the fraudsters are women. These hypocritical women's groups need to learn that a woman is not always innocent just because she is a woman. As for any hardships suffered by the kids as a result, guess who's to blame? Mom.
No kidding. It's not like the children are being raised by innocent angels here. I mean the mothers are proven to be fraud-committing felons, after all.
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