06-24-2017, 05:57 AM
|
#1
|
Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
|
Problem: Too many Forwards. Solution: ?
Now that the expansion draft/first round have passed without any trades from the Flames, it is apparent to me that we have too many forwards for the upcoming season.
Gaudreau Monahan Ferland
Tkachuk Backlund Frolik
Bennett Brouwer
Bouma Stajan Chiasson
Plus the following bubble players/UFAs:
Versteeg Jankowski Lazar
Lomberg Hamilton Hathaway
Something has to give.
How does everyone see us solving this problem?
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 05:59 AM
|
#2
|
Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkhouser
Now that the expansion draft/first round have passed without any trades from the Flames, it is apparent to me that we have too many forwards for the upcoming season.
Gaudreau Monahan Ferland
Tkachuk Backlund Frolik
Bennett Brouwer
Bouma Stajan Chiasson
Plus the following bubble players/UFAs:
Versteeg Jankowski Lazar
Lomberg Hamilton Hathaway
Something has to give.
How does everyone see us solving this problem?
|
First I think you just dont re-sign Chiasson
|
|
|
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Moneyhands23 For This Useful Post:
|
|
06-24-2017, 06:05 AM
|
#3
|
Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
|
FYI
I see Bouma and Hamilton heading to Stockton, and trading Chiasson. I think Versteeg hits the open market unfortunately (unless he is willing to sign up as a 4th liner/13th fwd)
I think we are stuck with Brouwer and missed an opportunity to unload him to Vegas with a sweetener.
Next year's lineup:
Gaudreau Monahan Ferland
Jankowski Backlund Frolik
Tkachuk Bennett Brouwer
Stajan Lazar Hathaway
Lomberg
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 06:17 AM
|
#4
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkhouser
Now that the expansion draft/first round have passed without any trades from the Flames, it is apparent to me that we have too many forwards for the upcoming season.
Gaudreau Monahan Ferland
Tkachuk Backlund Frolik
Bennett Brouwer
Bouma Stajan Chiasson
Plus the following bubble players/UFAs:
Versteeg Jankowski Lazar
Lomberg Hamilton Hathaway
Something has to give.
How does everyone see us solving this problem?
|
Well first thing's first, the bolded 3 players are AHL level injury callups, so I don't even worry about fitting them on the NHL roster.
I'd be surprised if Versteeg is brought back, only if because Lazar will likely take that spot moving forward. Jankowski is the only guy that might force a veteran out, and my money is on Bouma, allowing Jankowski to enter the league on the LW and then transition to center after Stajan is done. In that scenario there is a spot open for a UFA, possibly being Versteeg, but maybe a much better player too.
This isn't really a problem as far as I'm concerned.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by ResAlien
If we can't fall in love with replaceable bottom 6 players then the terrorists have won.
|
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 06:35 AM
|
#5
|
Franchise Player
|
Let's wait til training camp I suppose. Most of those extra guys would easily pass through waivers
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 07:04 AM
|
#6
|
Help, save, whatever.
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan
Well first thing's first, the bolded 3 players are AHL level injury callups, so I don't even worry about fitting them on the NHL roster.
I'd be surprised if Versteeg is brought back, only if because Lazar will likely take that spot moving forward. Jankowski is the only guy that might force a veteran out, and my money is on Bouma, allowing Jankowski to enter the league on the LW and then transition to center after Stajan is done. In that scenario there is a spot open for a UFA, possibly being Versteeg, but maybe a much better player too.
This isn't really a problem as far as I'm concerned.
|
Yeah, I feel like every team in the NHL has this "problem" if you list all of their AHL prospects and UFAs.
|
|
|
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to savemedrzaius For This Useful Post:
|
|
06-24-2017, 07:14 AM
|
#7
|
Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: 0° latitude, 0° longitude
|
Vegas is the one with the problem with too many defenseman
Sent from my SM-G930W8 using Tapatalk
__________________
In Treliving We Trust!
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 07:34 AM
|
#8
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: https://homestars.com/companies/2808346-keith-my-furnace-guy
|
I think you have to bring Versteeg back.
He wants to be here and said so himself. Tree needs to bring him back as he offers allot to this team.....much more than Brouwer.
Take advantage and sign him as cheap as possible but keep him around.
|
|
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to EVERLAST For This Useful Post:
|
|
06-24-2017, 07:42 AM
|
#9
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: In the studio
|
Ideally:
Bury Bouma
Trade/pressbox/spot play Stajan
Let Chiasson go to UFA
Sign Versteeg
Promote Hathaway, Jankowski
F. Hamilton same as last year
Gaudreau - Monahan - Ferland
Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik
Tkachuk - Bennett - Versteeg
Hathaway - Lazar - Brouwer
Stajan, Hamilton
|
|
|
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to Heavy Jack For This Useful Post:
|
|
06-24-2017, 12:07 PM
|
#10
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto
|
What did Versteeg make last year?
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 12:08 PM
|
#11
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by activeStick
What did Versteeg make last year?
|
950k of memory serves.
__________________
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 12:42 PM
|
#12
|
Powerplay Quarterback
|
I'd like to keep Chiasson and Versteeg over Bouma and Stajan. We also need to carry 13th and 14th forwards
Gaudreau-Bennett-Ferland
Tkachuk-Monohan-Versteeg
Lazar/Jankowski-Backlund-Frolik
Lazar/Jankowski/Hathaway/Chiasson/Stajan (whomever is earns it) send Hathaway, Bouma or Jankowski down to Stockton along with Freddy.
Disclaimer: Lines are just something I would like to see tried out at some point during the season and definitely not what I expect opening night.
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 12:43 PM
|
#13
|
Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
|
My ideal forward group
Gaudreau-Monahan-Marleau (he plays all three positions)
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Ferland-Bennett-Brouwer
Jankowski-Stajan-Lazar
__________________
Fireside Chat - The #1 Flames Fan Podcast - FiresideChat.ca
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Caged Great For This Useful Post:
|
|
06-24-2017, 01:00 PM
|
#14
|
First Line Centre
|
My ideal situation:
Flames trade Bouma, Brouwer, and Stajan (for picks)
Flames acquire Kovalchuk, Foo
Gaudreau - Monahan - Kovalchuk
Tkachuk - Backlund - Frolik
Ferland - Bennett - Lazar
Shinkaruk - Jankowski - Foo
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 01:12 PM
|
#15
|
Franchise Player
|
I would love to see Tkachuk, Bennett and Lazar together and think they would pose a matchup problem for other teams
- You need to put your best D against Johnny's line (with Ferland)
- the new 3M with Janko is going to shut down your top line
- then the three kids are going run your third line out of the rink
- Bouma/Hathaway/Chiasson, Stajan, Brouwer on the 4th line I guess.
I don't see a spot for Versteeg though I'd love to see him back.
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 01:17 PM
|
#16
|
#1 Goaltender
|
I would like to see them walk away from chiasson and versteeg and jettison bouma or have him as an expensive 13th forward. Then sign marcus foligno to play LW with Stajan and Brouwer on that 4th line and replace Engelland's knuckles.
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland/Lazar
Janko-Backlund-Frolik
Tkachuk-Bennett-Ferland/Lazar
Foligno-Stajan-Brouwer
Bouma/Hamilton/Hathaway
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 01:32 PM
|
#17
|
First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
|
Gaudreau - Monahan - Marleau
Frolik - Backlund - Brouwer
Tkachuk - Bennett - Versteeg
Lazar - Jankowski - Ferland
Stajan
__________________
"This has been TheScorpion's shtick for years. All these hot takes, clickbait nonsense just to feed his social media algorithms." –Tuco
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 02:03 PM
|
#18
|
Franchise Player
|
I think Marleau is a Shark for life, but if he can be snagged on a 1 year deal (maybe even 2) for around $5 million, I'd be all over that.
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 02:11 PM
|
#19
|
Franchise Player
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Funkhouser
I think we are stuck with Brouwer and missed an opportunity to unload him to Vegas with a sweetener.
|
We needed those sweetners to trade for Hamonic.
Vegas generally took bad contracts at a cost of a 1st round pick.
I don't think Brouwer is that bad, but Vegas wasn't taking on his contract obligations lightly.
|
|
|
06-24-2017, 03:19 PM
|
#20
|
#1 Goaltender
|
Brouwer is not a concern anymore wage wise now that G and 3/4 D slots have been filled pretty inexpensively... even with Brouwer the Flames are going to walk into this season with decent caproom unless they go crazy sign two expensive UFAs.
And then after this season his NTC ends and I'm sure they'll be able to move him partially retained if they really need to.
Give him a chance to prove himself this year, it's a no lose situation given the likely cost to unload him.
|
|
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:43 AM.
|
|