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Originally Posted by nickerjones
That's good but that really means nothing. If there were less people there would also be less of all those. If there were less Canadian pig farmers we'd also have less Canadian bacon. Lets just put a ban on the amount kids people can have. That'll definitely cut down on gun deaths.
Duffman in your opinion how many gun related deaths are tolerable? 1? 10? 100? 1000?
Just because they crack down on guns it doesn't mean people aren't going to have them. What are the handgun laws in Canada? IIRC it's next to impossible to get them as a Civilian no?
Funny how no one posted about the gun arrests in Canada over Christmas by drug dealers at a mall, if it would have happened in America a thread would have be started praising Obama and his gun crackdown. Nonetheless , I think there was even a semi recent shooting at a Vietnamese restaurant by cineplex. My point is you have stringent gun laws but look who is still toting around guns. People are going to get guns if they want them . PLAIN AND SIMPLE FACT .
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First bolded part. Wha?
Second part. Yes you'll still have a few slip through the cracks. No one is arguing that. But the rate is still far far less. Especially in the 'mass shooting' category.
It's funny because you're starting to show the same attitude of the Nose Hill Gentleman. You feel you NEED your gun to keep you safe from others (who you feel also probably have guns). Not only is that an impossible chicken and egg argument that just adds to the problem, by causing further fear, and more people to feel they need guns, but all the stats show that yes, gun crimes do diminish in countries with stricter controls.
The occasional criminal will still get their hands on it, but many won't. It especially cuts down on lots of crimes of opportunity, or crimes by young people who take their parents guns.
Funny enough, I heard a stat once that a large portion (quarter? more, less? I dunno I'll check it) of gun crimes in Canada are done with guns that originally came from the States. So guess where a good portion of OUR illegal guns come from? Kinda throws your argument back at ya. Maybe even the Vietnamese restaurant incident you were talking about. Imagine if our neighbor wasn't so gun crazy, we'd be even safer than we are now. And the criminals that ARE looking for illegal guns would have an even tougher time trying to find them.