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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
In this case you have to debate the ethical view that AntiFa and Neo-Nazi's crave confrontational violence. So yes to me both sides aren't exactly Moral in that sense.
Antifa's aren't some benign group of protestors waving banners, they confront and challenge and violence is one thing that they move to very easily.
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I don't really think most people who have read a lick about antifa think they're benign flag wavers. Moving to action is at the core of their purpose.
That said, by comparing the desire for confrontational violence and then saying "both sides aren't exactly moral" you can't possibly be approaching the subject in an honest way. Lying by omission, essentially. Because the real key here is that you're comparing the worst part of one group with one of many many terrible parts of the other. Saying "both sides aren't exactly moral" is like saying someone who commits tax fraud and someone who is a serial rapist "aren't exactly moral people," you're technically right, but because there is such a huge disparity between the severity of each moral transgression, it makes zero sense to use the same description for both. It's either too severe for one, or too light for another.
That's why people get irked at this type of discussion or reject it outright. Yes Captain, Antifa "aren't exactly moral," this is a true and accurate statement. But nazi's aren't just not "exactly moral," they're so ####ing far from moral that you would have to be insane or a moron to believe they even approach morality. That's why there's no discussion that can be had where they're compared. You can say both are bad, but you have to make the distinction between the severity of "bad," because it's a casm pretty much nobody else is going to ignore and anyone who does is suspect.