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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Honestly I posted because really it was the same bunch of pro-climate change brigade here posting that always does

Well duh, people post in topics that interest them, and they're going to post the opinions they hold. That's the point of a discussion forum.

Why aren't you in the main forum insulting everyone from the same pro-Flames brigade?

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

and I just don't get what you guys think you will accomplish preaching the same stuff over and over.

Why does anyone have to hope to accomplish anything? Sometimes people just want to talk about things beyond their immediate control. Sometimes it's annoying drivers, sometimes it's how the mobile phone market is changing, sometimes it's how people will ignore science and hold a specific opinion.

You chose to come into the thread and read it, and I don't know if I'd call it preaching.. is it preaching when one keeps saying all life evolved from a common ancestor, or that energy is conserved?

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I personally don't have any ill will to anyone whether they believe in it or not so if you find my opinion insulting I'm sorry.

Your opinion isn't insulting, your insulting people is insulting.

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I've heard the politics over the years and honestly I just don't care.

Um ok, bringing politics into it now doesn't change what you posted before.

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

That doesn't mean I'm removing the catalytic converters in my cars or burning plastic and Styrofoam in my yard because I'm not. We recycle as much or more than anyone on my street and all our vehicles are 4-cylinder so it's not like I don't care about the earth rather than I just don't care for the politics.

So, don't care for the politics then. Your post had nothing to do with politics.

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Much like anything involving politics I feel my opinion really doesn't matter and I'm not going to waste the precious time I have on this earth worrying about something that I can't control.

Then please follow through on that, why take precious bother posting in climate change threads to express your disinterest?

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

You may call it defeatist attitude but I call it "moving on".

It doesn't even have to be either. Like everything in life there's too much going on in the world to be able to be engaged in everything. Some people are interested in something and will be engaged in it. Others will be engaged with something else.

So decide not to be engaged in the subject, there's nothing wrong with that IMO. The science is complex an there's no need for every person to be familiar with it.

But don't insult people that are familiar with the science, and don't pretend that your opinions are valid when they're based on incorrect assumptions and use logical fallacies. The correct response in a subject where one doesn't want to be engaged and when one doesn't have the relevant facts is "I don't have enough information to form a valid opinion."

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

It's funny but Godzilla has it right with the phrase; "The arrogance of man is thinking nature is under our control". I've always been in this camp and think that the climate change will happen regardless of what we do or don't do so I'm not going to devote more than what I'm already doing here.

You've made this logical fallacy before and I'm sure you will do it again. Just because humans die of natural causes does not mean all human deaths are caused by natural causes.