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Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius

I don't see Nieuwendyk as being in the same class as Sakic, not really close, actually.

I see it like this...

Top Tier - Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr, etc

2nd Tier - Sakic, Yzerman, Bourque, etc

3rd Tier - Iginla, Pronger, Shanahan, etc

For some reason, I love making lists like this. It gets interesting... For example, does Messier make that Top Tier? ... Is Ron Francis clearly in that 2nd Tier? ... And Brett Hull? ... Do you put Lindros in that tier, or does his shorten career keep him with Iginla and Co.? ... Same with Cam Neely?!?

I see Niewendyk being in a 4th tier with players like Lafontaine, Hawerchuk...maybe even Gilmour (though he might be one tier up)

Now this is where the team you play on is a factor. If Hawerchuk was on a winning club he would be second tier no problem. At one time he was the second best player next to Wayne but you have him 3rd tier with Gilmour and Lafontaine??