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Old 06-25-2017, 05:38 AM   #93
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Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague View Post
If you look no further than Antifa's name, sure. If you actually look at the kind of things they do in practice, they're a violent anarchist movement that is far more fascistic and oppressive than the people they tend to oppose.
Either you have no clue what fascism actually means, or what anarchism as a political movement means, or both.

In any case, what you just said makes no sense. Here's a hint: neither movement is defined by their methods.

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Btw, violent anarchists and violent fascists generally use very different methods actually, because they draw inspiration from very different sources and have very different goals. The similarities are mostly superficial.

Some examples:
Violent anarchists often use masks or disguises. They use similar clothes to each other because they want to remain unrecognizable. They identify with guerilla tactics. Hit and run, hide in the crowd.

Fascists generally don't wear masks. Even if they do, they want to be recognizable as fascists, which is why they tend to use uniforms or outfits that effectively work as uniforms. They identify with military organizations, which openly display their colors and numbers.

Vast majority of anarchist action is targeted against property, and that is considered a way to attack instititutions. Many anarchists go out of their way to avoid damage to people. They are ready to fight the police, but generally that's a means to an end. For example, they might want to provoke police violence, or they might want to get past the police to attack certain property or to gain access to a certain place. They do actively initiate violence against fascists, but only against clearly outright fascist groups, the types that wear uniforms etc. They also rarely attack lone targets. Their violent attacks are generally planned in advance, not random attacks of opportunity.

Fascists target people and groups of people. They want everyone to know who they are, and they want everyone to fear them. Damage to property is a way to attack people, but straight up violence is a preferred method. Fascists often have street patrols which actively go out looking for people to hurt and scare, so attacks of opportunity are common, and most attacks are against a single person. Fascists often have sympathies for the police, and vice versa, so unlike anarchists they often avoid outright conflicts with the police. (With the exception of situations where they want to show that the police are unable to stop them.)

Anarchists and fascists also have completely different political goals. Fascists strive for control of the society, which means they're interested in political sympathies and political power. They very commonly have active members or sympathizers inside the police. Anarchists mostly consider themselves as provocateurs and thorns in the side of power, and essentially never want to work within the system.

These things are just some examples why I think comparing fascists and anarchists as "similar" is nonsense. Anarchists are a nuisance that are mostly harmless to the general society. Fascists are seriously dangerous.

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