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Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate
As do I.
The slaves stayed with their masters. Doesn't mean slavery was right.
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what does slavery have to do with anything? Every single worker has a choice right. It's disingenuous to try and manufacture a situation that doesn't exist.
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Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate
How about QUALITY of living as well?
It's not about shipping them bags of free money. It's about paying these people a wage that allows them to send their children to school, feed their families and build a future.
Again, that is not what this is about. It's about ensuring that those that make Nikes make more than 1% of the retail price so that their kids DO have the opportunity to become doctors.
That supply/demand capitalism cannot be the only moral yardstick.
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Look it's not daisys and rainbows. But a country cannot legislate higher pay or less hours becuase the work will then go to a different country. Simple as that, it's not very nice, but it is real life. And for those workers in those shops, it is their best options. It's not the best thing to happen to humanity, but apparently it is the best opportunity for each of those workers. Simple as that.
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I found these wonderful shoes made out of 100% recycled materials about a decade ago. But I found that they were being made in China, so I wrote to the company stating that I couldn't understand why they were making their shoes in a country with such a poor human rights record. They responded saying that if they made their products in the U.S., Canada or any other developed country it would mean bumping their price for shoes from $80 to $110. At $110 they wouldn't be able to compete with other manufacturers that were using sweatshop labour.
In other words, in a system that is all about maximizing profit or die, you can't afford to be an ethical company.
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and customers won't pay the higher price and allow the company to be your definition of ethical.
It's lazy and naive to simply blame the producer. The customers demand a lower price above all else, what else can the producer do? it's like people here saying in one breath they hate oil companies for for the business they are in, and they hate oil companies because gasoline is so expensive ... naive and lazy.