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Originally Posted by Burninator
Ignorant morons eh?
The burden of proof is not on atheists or agnostics to prove that something doesn't exist. That's not how science works. This such a weak argument used all the time by people who have little understanding of the whole process. So you must believe in fairies, the flying spaghetti monster and a celestial teapot orbiting the sun, because science hasn't proved that they don't exist. Please before you go around calling people names and criticizing their thinking at least have a proper understanding of their views. In fact most atheists and agnostics would gladly change their view point given evidence of supernatural happenings/god/etc. Of course that is ignorant isn't it? We should just put on our blinders and follow the masses shouldn't we?
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I find it interesting that if I state that I prefer believing in God in the absence of contradicting proof, then that is ignorant and blind and something for the sheep.
By ignorant morons I meant that athiests in general are identical to the religious sheep they claim to fight against. By latching on to scientific theories that most people are not trained enough to fully comphrehend and using them as "proof" of the validity of their beliefs, they lash out at any and all that dare to argue with them. In my experience, creationists are less pushy of their doctrine then most atheists.
Perhaps most of my atheist friends are jerks though, which may account for my perception of it.
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Originally Posted by peter12
How can you possibly describe something which is supposed to exist completely outside the realm of materialism with materialist methods? It's actually not a drawback of science at all, indeed, it is a strength. Why would you want to?
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Put much more eloquently then I could ever have written, and exactly why I think athiests should stick to arguing their case against what is known, and not against the existence of God.