If you want to see how clean your dishwasher actually gets your lids, put them in a container with a tsp of Cafiza for a half hour. Or if you have a mug with coffee stains. Prepare to be disgusted. This stuff is awesome, also good for things like wine carafes that are hard to get into.
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