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Old 12-22-2016, 11:58 AM   #208
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Originally Posted by speede5 View Post
I really don't understand what is so wrong with TFA having Starkiller base as a superweapon, and having the rebels destroy it.

The last evil power in the galaxy had a planet killing space station and they built it twice trying to control the galaxy. This is an upgraded version, an evolution of technology, an attempt by the evildoers to go beyond what almost worked into what they hope will work.

Is that any different than any other aspect of war? We don't give up when the enemy finds a way to defeat our tech, we amp up our tech to stay ahead of the enemy.
I don't think having a Starkiller base itself is a problem for the rebels to have to destroy it, but it is a tried idea that has failed the Empire twice before. Having the First Order do something like this again, while supposedly being resource strapped defeated shadow of the Empire seems like a colossal waste of resources. It's not so much what's wrong with the base, but what's wrong with the premise.

There are also stupid flaws in the TFA's First Order that make it a lot less enjoyable that it takes away from the struggle the movie is supposed to portray. To defeat the Death Star the rebels had to get detailed plans and deliberate flaws built into the device. To defeat Starkiller had only a janitor with no real skills, some ad hoc bumbling plan involving a supposedly fearsome shiny storm trooper and the Falcon + X-Wings fly low for a couple of good shots. The list of recycled plot points and villain cliches goes on and on but just by having so many, it takes away from the movie and causes too much villain decay. First Order is like the Empire's ######ed inbred cousin. This isn't even addressing how shallow some of the new characters are themselves. Ren, Rey, Finn, etc.

Rogue One had a lot less flaws that didn't need to be glossed over.

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