[Hockeyguy15]

Assumptions: Oling is town and was given the spore on night 0 and was not infected.

Fact: The hosts know Oling has the spore and was not infected.

Interesting posts in the order they happened.

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

Haha - leave it to Oiling to get the ball rolling early!

Is it possible the person who received the spore would not know about it until the night phase? That would throw a kink into the assumption that if the spore already turned someone, then that person would remain silent. Maybe I'm not reading the description of the spore correctly?

Mrkajz's first post, could this be a host trying to find out if Oling knew he had the spore or not?

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Sorry, I am tired. So, we should assume then that if the spore carrier is infected they won't reveal as now their victory condition has changed. How does it work though? What I am wondering is let's say the coin flip comes up not to infect, does Mazrim then have to tell the target they were even targeted if there is no infection?

Originally Posted by Puxlut

This is what I was thinking.

I think this game is going to make me crazy again. And this time: no turtle sex

Diss and Puxlut both wondering if the person who has the spore is aware they have the spore. Again, is this hosts wondering if Oling knows he has the spore?

Originally Posted by Puxlut

But the first one to admit it gets a free pass. If the Captain says it's him and he passed it to passenger A and we kill Passenger A, that doesn't help us. And then we aren't going to target the Captain because we thing he was just the first schmuck to get the spore.

Puxlut is the first to come up with this idea. Possibly setting up for when Oling eventually admits he has the spore?

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

I agree with Puxlut here, as the first person to reveal could by lying about one of these things (or both I guess):

1) They actually got the spore
2) They didn't turn when they got the spore

So really, the big risk with pushing an early reveal is thinking we have better information now, when really we are worse off than before.

Mrkazj is quick to agree to Puxlut on this. Is one of them a host setting up for the Oling reveal?

Originally Posted by GGG

Why did you think this here?

GGG asking mrkazj about the first quote I posted. If mrkazj is not a host it's possible GGG is and is using the post again him. He may be trying to make it look like mrkazj had more info than he was letting on.

Originally Posted by Puxlut

So right now, someone has the spore, but may or may not know it? They would only know it if they turned? If they didn't turn, they won't know until after tonight (after we lynch someone?)

Even though Mazrim has already confirmed Oling has no knowledge he has the spore, Puxlut continues to worry about it. Possibly a host still fishing to see if Oling knows he was the target for the spore?

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

GGG and Oiling - I was just being a bit cautious with the game. There were assumptions being made and I was concerned a plan would be made just a few hours into the game on assumptions that didn't hold true. It turns out my speculation was right that if the spore was given out and the person was not turned, they actually don't know until the first night.

We really have to watch assumptions being made, especially early. The clan thing really threw the game off the rails in the last game due to a lot of assumptions (or guesses) being made about them.

This post is not a lie, mrkajz could be a host being cautious to see if Oling knew he had the spore and was worried any plans he and the other hosts made could be thrown for a loop if Oling was aware he had the spore.

Originally Posted by mrkajz44

Interesting catch. The first post is clear there are 14 innocent and 3 hosts (paragraph 2 and 3 under game setup). So with 12 vanillas and 3 special powers, the math doesn't quite work. Either:

1) Mazrim made an error in how many vanillas there are (unlikely IMO)
2) Either the agent or the smuggler also has the genetic anomaly

Since the agent already has the double coin flip to turn, getting the anomaly as well seems like an overload. So maybe the Smuggler also has the anomaly because they are move likely to get the spore by hiding people?

Regardless of being a host or not, this is a weird view to take. He thinks the town would be too overpowered if we had a government agent, smuggler, and the anomaly?

Originally Posted by Timbo

At this point in the game a lynch seems to always be a crapshoot. At this point I have more evidence leading me to who are passengers.
Dissentowner has been quite meek which makes me slightly suspicious.
GGG comes out very quickly pointing and accusing. Maybe too early IMO
Hockeyguy does as well however he is back to his old self gaming the game again heheh, so I feel fairly confident at this point that he is a true blue passenger.
Oling I don't know if its his name or his avatar that makes me leery of his intentions.
With that being said I think he's also a passenger.
Devo22 has not done much IMO
Peanut might be a rotten nut but it's a gut feeling.
Puxlut I dunno
ECF I dunno
Bizzaro to early for me to tell

Right now I have suspicions on Dissentowner, GGG, Peanut.

If Timbo is a host it looks like he gives Oling the weirdest reason for being leery of him and the says he's probably a passenger. Is this so later on when Oling reveals the spore Timbo can say he was weary of him the whole time?

That takes us to page 7, or post 140. I'm going to eat, I'll do some more digging after.