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Originally Posted by photon
So what's your alternative? To overcome a scientific consensus you have to present an alternative explanation for the warming. Otherwise the creationist parallel is very apt. "You are wrong, I can't provide an alternative, but I know you are wrong."
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An alternative has been given. It is a natural cyclical phenomenon. We neither can help it or stop it
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Originally Posted by photon
As I said, CO2 is a greenhouse gas, this cannot be denied. The only reason the earth is habitable is because we have CO2 in the atmosphere at all. There's more now than in the last million years. The stuff that's in the atmosphere is demonstrably increasingly from man made sources.
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No, there has been more before.
Professor Plimer said climate change was caused by natural events such as volcanic eruptions, the shifting of the Earth’s orbit and cosmic radiation. He said: “Carbon dioxide levels have been up to 1,000 times higher in the past. CO2 cannot be driving global warming now.
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Originally Posted by photon
They MUST be (despite the lack of evidence and despite the similar results from completely independent sources), otherwise the conspiracy doesn't work! Damn all those glaciers and ice and animals and crops that are in on it too.
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Read the links I provided previously. They have been regurgitating their own turds. Different papers written by the same people using the same data(sources of unknown or very shaky quality) but with the names in different order.
Financial Post, very apt due to the amount of money involved!
Interesting event....
Danes caught with their hands in the
Carbon Trading cookie jar. Thanks to a former ENRON
exec, Ken Lay.