View Full Version : Kate plus 8 and Jon plus 8 every second weekend
Ducay
06-22-2009, 09:42 PM
Ha ha Kate! Too bad it took so much public pain for her to learn she's a biotch
Poor Jon and the kids having to deal with her for so long.
Shazam
06-22-2009, 09:48 PM
Divorce.
On the plus side, we get to see Mady and Cara as strippers in ten years.
What a selfish, greedy, idiotic couple.
wooohooo
06-22-2009, 09:57 PM
Divorce.
On the plus side, we get to see Mady and Cara as strippers in ten years.
What a selfish, greedy, idiotic couple.
Well in their defense, it's very expensive and time consuming to take care of 8 kids. Unless you're somehow outrageously rich and don't work I can see it happening. If they didn't go to TLC, Jon would probably have to work at least 8 hours a day + more if they want to upsize their small house. This would leave kate all alone and the situation would be just as dire.
But I also don't think they should put their life infront of the camera. Just one of those things I wouldn't know what to do if I were them.
SteveToms
06-22-2009, 09:58 PM
Divorce.
On the plus side, we get to see Mady and Cara as strippers in ten years.
What a selfish, greedy, idiotic couple.
I think Kate is more of the selfish, greedy person in the couple.
wooohooo
06-22-2009, 09:58 PM
Ha ha Kate! Too bad it took so much public pain for her to learn she's a biotch
Poor Jon and the kids having to deal with her for so long.
I only started to follow the last 4 shows and man, she's a big pain to deal with. Good for Jon, no one deserves to be constantly put down by anyone especially their spouse. Too bad he will probably have to pay child care fees for an eternity.
Prototype
06-22-2009, 10:00 PM
John and Kate at the time of the birth...
http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2009-05/46891717.jpg
John and Kate now...
http://blogs.nypost.com/tv/photos/jon_kate_plus8_ratings.jpg
I can't for the life of me peg what's different that would cause them to split. I get the feeling that someone is letting the show get to their heads... but I can't tell which one.
/green text
wooohooo
06-22-2009, 10:02 PM
John and Kate at the time of the birth...
http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2009-05/46891717.jpg
Actually? What the heck. Looks nothing like them. They sure have aged A LOT but in a very good way. Kate is a milf haha
Shazam
06-22-2009, 10:25 PM
Well in their defense, it's very expensive and time consuming to take care of 8 kids. Unless you're somehow outrageously rich and don't work I can see it happening. If they didn't go to TLC, Jon would probably have to work at least 8 hours a day + more if they want to upsize their small house. This would leave kate all alone and the situation would be just as dire.
But I also don't think they should put their life infront of the camera. Just one of those things I wouldn't know what to do if I were them.I suspect the kids have most of the money from the show locked in trust funds.
Kate travels everywhere hawking her ghost written books.
And yes, my goodness, raising kids is hard. Putting them in front of cameras is only a less heinous idea for so long.
3 Justin 3
06-22-2009, 10:29 PM
Ok, I have seen them all over the magazines at Co-op, Safeway, Superstore now for months and have had one question.
Who in the are these people? I have never heard of them before and now everything being printed has their faces on it. All over TV interviews. Who in the blue hell are they and why are they important to me?
CrusaderPi
06-22-2009, 10:32 PM
My best guess.
Kate cheated first. (I'm not sure John cheated at all). John has that "my heart's been ripped out and was still beating when you stomped it" look on him for the past 4 months. Kate looks like she's trying not to look ashamed of herself.
SNL had the best line about a possible split. "TLC has two new shows scheduled for next year. John plus 4 and Kate plus 4."
That was when she was still in the hospital after 6 kids, so that wasn't a normal look for her at the time.
Ok, I have seen them all over the magazines at Co-op, Safeway, Superstore now for months and have had one question.
Who in the are these people? I have never heard of them before and now everything being printed has their faces on it. All over TV interviews. Who in the blue hell are they and why are they important to me?
Jon got caught hanging out with a younger woman.
And now something that should be in the confessions thread as I know too much...
It's sad really. They would not have the house, the trips, the product placements all around their property, the bike, and everything else if it wasn't for the show. But the show did separate them. Jon got popular with the ladies and saw what his life would be like without a controlling wife. And when he got outed with the other woman, that effectively ended it. No marriage counciling, just papparazzi.
rockstar
06-22-2009, 10:34 PM
WDF is all this?
Lchoy
06-22-2009, 10:41 PM
I just learned today that Kate isn't the same person as the "Octomom"
What's with mom's with 8 kids and being crazy...
EDIT: Actually, crazy does seem to make sense after 8 kids...
I've watched this show since it started, and this season is a train wreck. She is a complete bitch, and he just seems so distance. I'm sure they both played a huge part in the divorce. I can say that Kate blamed Jon for working WAY to much in the early years, and now she takes off for weeks on a book deal. If she is making books, and I assume gets paid well for it, knowing her marriage is in huge trouble, why renew the show for another season?
Shes a bitch.
evilcougar
06-22-2009, 10:46 PM
Dion? 4x4? The vagina is not a clown car pic? I know at least one of you has it...
From what little i watched Kate came across as a controling and manipulative woman. She also liked to belttle Jon at every chance she could. Jon finally standing up for himself meant the end of the marriage. He wasn't going to put up with her demeaning behaviour anymore.
Frankly, I think Kate would be a very difficult person to live with. I highly doubt any man worth his salt would want to live with a controling woman like that.
CrusaderPi
06-22-2009, 10:51 PM
Dion? 4x4? The vagina is not a clown car pic? I know at least one of you has it...
Michelle "clown car" Dugger.
The pic is out of date, she's had another kid.
http://feministphilosophers.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/249270409_664e6841fa.jpg
Phanuthier
06-22-2009, 10:52 PM
WDF is all this?
i didn't start to wonder until this penetrated the random thoughts friend, is this some sort of TV show or hollywood romance?
Dion? 4x4? The vagina is not a clown car pic? I know at least one of you has it...
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z178/mydogmoxie/249270409_664e6841fa.jpg
Edit*
WTG, CrusaderPi. Beaten in the 2 minutes it took to open photobucket and find the pic.
F'r.
evilcougar
06-22-2009, 10:55 PM
http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z178/mydogmoxie/249270409_664e6841fa.jpg
LOLOL!!!! i ran out of thanks...so...thanks!
evilcougar
06-22-2009, 10:56 PM
ohh man! thanks to you too crusader, i didn't see your pic in time...LOL!!
ben voyonsdonc
06-22-2009, 10:57 PM
This is such a sad situation. The unraveling of a marriage was gleefully watched by millions of people. It seemed inevitable (Kate seems like a genuinely terrible human being) but was certainly (at least partially) driven by media that are so fixated in their pursuit of headlines that they seem to forget that there are 8 children that will now be living with a single parent (until remarriage or whatever).
Divorce is common in families with "multiples" so while it is possible that it would have happened without the show and the headlines, one cannot help but be disturbed by our fascination with "reality" shows and our ability to disconnect the fact that these are real people with real lives. Jon and Kate did this showto help provide for their children but, in the end, was it really worth it? What are the long term implications for these children?
I didn't even really watch the show but it has become such a recent pop culture phenomenon that it was hard to avoid.
I've watched this show since it started, and this season is a train wreck. She is a complete bitch, and he just seems so distance. I'm sure they both played a huge part in the divorce. I can say that Kate blamed Jon for working WAY to much in the early years, and now she takes off for weeks on a book deal. If she is making books, and I assume gets paid well for it, knowing her marriage is in huge trouble, why renew the show for another season?
Shes a bitch.
Kate loves being in the spotlight and Jon has basicly had enough of it. Her huge EGO is lapping it up like a thirsty dog.
Jon hates how the rag magazines take innocent events in his life and twists them to make him look bad. I think he regrets this whole reality TV show.
She is deflecting all the blame for all their problems towards Jon. She doesn't admit admit to having any faults in the marriage, and does her hardest to make herself come across as the victim. Instead she looks very shallow, very bitchy (well, more so than before) and very much in denial that she had a hand in their failed marriage.
She is deflecting all the blame for all their problems towards Jon. She doesn't admit admit to having any faults in the marriage, and does her hardest to make herself come across as the victim. Instead she looks very shallow, very bitchy (well, more so than before) and very much in denial that she had a hand in their failed marriage.
It was quite sad how she trashed him during the interviews and Jon basicly didn't reply to her barbs. She says she doesn't understand why he's mad at her, yet the viewing audience can see clear as day why she helped to put an end to the marriage. I doubt her EGO will allow her to do conselling.
The real victims in all this are the kids. They will grow to wonder why mommy and daddy didn't stay together. A terrible thing to do to your kids.
oilers_fan
06-22-2009, 11:09 PM
Is it possible that this is all orchestrated? Before this whole controversy, all I knew about them was that they had a reality show. Now they're everywhere. Just think of how much more money is pouring in now, as compared to before. I have a hard time believing any of this is not put on.
Then again, I have never watched the show, so maybe it actually is real. I don't know. I don't care. Why am I posting in this thread?
Peanut
06-22-2009, 11:18 PM
It was quite sad how she trashed him during the interviews and Jon basicly didn't reply to her barbs. She says she doesn't understand why he's mad at her, yet the viewing audience can see clear as day why she helped to put an end to the marriage. I doubt her EGO will allow her to do conselling.
The real victims in all this are the kids. They will grow to wonder why mommy and daddy didn't stay together. A terrible thing to do to your kids.
Oh, they won't have to grow and wonder. It's all documented by TLC for them to have the joy of watching their family fall apart on national TV again and again.
Kate is a controlling bitch. Jon has an alcohol problem and is 33 years old with 8 kids, out running around with college girls. The pair of them are pretty disgusting. I'm sad to say I actually used to enjoy this show back in the first 2 seasons. But then watching the two of them snipe at each other and disrespect each other constantly became intolerable and it was obvious they were just in it for the cash, freebies and fame.
The worst is the had a "vow renewal" last year at some point and Jon & Kate told the kids on camera no less than 5 times how "they were together forever" and "nothing would break up their family" blah blah blah. Basically had their greedy parents lying through their teeth to them for the ratings. Honestly, who goes on TV to announce their impending divorce??!! It's surreal.
Those kids are going to be messed up. It's sad.
Jagger
06-22-2009, 11:27 PM
Back when I first saw the show (Season 1?) I thought that Kate was a complete bitch the way she always put down Jon. That was on camera. What the heck was she like off camera? I mentioned to my wife back then that this marriage wasn't going to last. No man will put up with that crap forever.
Jagger
06-22-2009, 11:33 PM
The worst is the had a "vow renewal" last year at some point and Jon & Kate told the kids on camera no less than 5 times how "they were together forever" and "nothing would break up their family" blah blah blah. Basically had their greedy parents lying through their teeth to them for the ratings. Honestly, who goes on TV to announce their impending divorce??!! It's surreal.
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That was such utter BS. TLC kept playing the primer advertising the Vow renewal and it was so contrived it was unbelievable. Quite sickening actually. I lost all respect for those people very quickly.
There's another show on TLC, "Table for 12" where the parent's totally come across as real caring parents; the complete opposite of this pair actually.
Michelle "clown car" Dugger.
The pic is out of date, she's had another kid.
http://feministphilosophers.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/249270409_664e6841fa.jpg
Didn't she just have number 19? I think there are five more kids who should be in that picture. Crazy.
On the main topic, I watched Jon and Kate for the first time tonight. I have trouble feeling sorry for either one of them. She seems like a total bitch and he seems like he resents all the responsibility. Neither are going to win parent of the year.
Kate is a controlling bitch. Jon has an alcohol problem and is 33 years old with 8 kids, out running around with college girls. The pair of them are pretty disgusting. I'm sad to say I actually used to enjoy this show back in the first 2 seasons. But then watching the two of them snipe at each other and disrespect each other constantly became intolerable and it was obvious they were just in it for the cash, freebies and fame.
She did most of the snipping like she usually does. I also don't blame Jon for standing up for himself. He was too passive for a lot years and finaly he said enough. She says he won't talk to her but i can see her cutting him down if he opened his mouth. In Kate's world she doesn't see herself as being a part of the marriage break down - it's all Jon's fault.
That running around with college girl's plus the alcohol problem is just the rag magazines looking to cause trouble. Something Jon has talked about repeatedly.
I think initaily they were in it as they saw it as way to finance the cost of raising those 8 kids. Jon has said he's tired of the reality stuff and would love to end this crap. It's Kate and her huge EGO that won't let go. She's caught up in the book deals and being able to showcase her kids to the rest of the world. She loves being in the spotlight.
Igottago
06-23-2009, 12:02 AM
WDF is all this?
That's my question. Somehow I think I'm better off not knowing.
icarus
06-23-2009, 03:49 AM
I will echo the WDF in all of this. It sounds pretty much exactly like the Kate and Peter (i.e. Jordan and Peter Andre) reality show/tabloid drama that's happening here... but the only thing that differs is that Peter is not named Jon and they only have three kids and not eight. I am seriously confused.
Phanuthier
06-23-2009, 04:41 AM
Good,so I'm not the only one out of the loop here.
Who is Kate+8 and Jon+8?
Table 5
06-23-2009, 05:37 AM
The hair. I can't believe anyone would have that hair cut. I am still amazed someone would think that looks good. It screams "I don't want to be touched".
Antithesis
06-23-2009, 07:18 AM
Whenever I watched this with my wife I was always secretly hoping to see Jon completely lose his mind on Kate when she went on one of her tirades - maybe treat her a little bit like she treats him.
Bigtime
06-23-2009, 07:37 AM
SNL had the best line about a possible split. "TLC has two new shows scheduled for next year. John plus 4 and Kate plus 4."
I could have sworn that was a joke on the Tonight Show last week (Friday perhaps?).
Kate loves being in the spotlight and Jon has basicly had enough of it. Her huge EGO is lapping it up like a thirsty dog.
Jon hates how the rag magazines take innocent events in his life and twists them to make him look bad. I think he regrets this whole reality TV show.
My wife watches this show periodically, but wanted to watch last nights because of the big announcement promised in it. So I took it in with her. Jon had a line in one of his interviews that sums up your second paragraph pretty well, something along these lines:
"There are soldiers getting killed in Iraq, and people pick up a magazine to find out what I had for lunch."
Watching it I couldn't believe how Kate was in full on spin mode, making everything seem like it had nothing to do with her and that she was the ultimate victim in all of this. From the very little I've seen of this show I had some big rolleyes going! :rolleyes:
CaptainCrunch
06-23-2009, 08:19 AM
Well, I guess the one good thing is that 10 or 15 years from now 5 of those kids will be in therapy, one will be a rabid Muslim Extremist and one will probably be a serial criminal, and we'll be able to say, yeah, I knew that was coming.
You Need a Thneed
06-23-2009, 08:25 AM
Kate is quite OCD, They are both Idiots. The kids deserve so much better.
ernie
06-23-2009, 09:27 AM
I've seen the show on and off...can't watch it regularly because Kate makes me want throw things at my TV. And then what would I watch hockey on?
But this can't come as a shock. Even before all the tabloid attention the past few months, anyone who saw a few shows and watched the couch interviews knew that as soon as Jon figured he could leave without completely ruining lives he would. Eventually he was going to get fed up with be demeaned and treated the way he got treated etc etc etc. And now he has.
Worst part is they are BOTH so darn greedy (and likely wasted most of the money they've made form the show) that they will keep doing the show. That will just makes things worse for the kids. It will be tough enough for them seeing the parents going through a divorce that you don't need a camera crew around all the time documenting the various staged events. Especially when you know they'll force the parents into a room together for birthdays etc.
Ironhorse
06-23-2009, 09:33 AM
Jon & Kate +8 litigate...
I wonder if the kids will get a volume discount on therapy when they're older. Quite sad.
Frequitude
06-23-2009, 09:59 AM
What's with Kate's hair? Party in the front, business in the back.
Their closing summaries last night were telling...
Jon: "We'll always do what's best for the kids."
Kate: "I just need people to know I tried my best."
http://thegirlfromtheghetto.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/motivator4471634.jpg
JerzeeGirl
06-23-2009, 10:12 AM
I just love how Kate didn't even bother considering the notion that it might be a good idea to end the show and work on her marriage....she may not want to be alone but she has no problem with letting her marriage fall to pieces because she wants to be famous and keep the money & freebies rolling in.
Jon was just a wuss.
Knalus
06-23-2009, 10:18 AM
I just love how Kate didn't even bother considering the notion that it might be a good idea to end the show and work on her marriage....she may not want to be alone but she has no problem with letting her marriage fall to pieces because she wants to be famous and keep the money & freebies rolling in.
I was secretly hoping that the announcement was the cancellation of the rest of the show to try to gain some sanity. There's apparently not much sanity left with that household.
User Name
06-23-2009, 10:24 AM
Thats what boggles my mind, they keep saying they want to do whats best for the children, well how about go to marriage counciling? Garunteed TLC would pay for it.... why not atleast give it a shot? Probably lazy or something.
Russic
06-23-2009, 10:35 AM
I'm going to play the snob/debbie downer card:
It's pretty easy to judge these people sitting at our computers. 8 effin kids? I'd probably turn into a bit of an ass too. It's also easy to call them greedy, exploitative and say that the fame killed their marriage. Perhaps they're in a brutally unique situation and the stats caught up to them?
I can't help but put myself in their position ... imagine having two kids, getting pregnant with six more (at the same damn time) and then realizing you'll have no way to support your family. TLC comes knocking and offers up $ ... would anybody here honestly not accept that offer?
People like to say "why aren't they doing this? They're so selfish and lazy!". For Christ sake people, it's a reality show. Does anybody feel like they are actually getting the whole story from a reality show and the tabloids? Who's to say they haven't given it a try?
You're really mean. Takes a sip from the water bottle but denies her daughter a drink.
bjohryb6xAU
J pold
06-23-2009, 10:42 AM
Sad that I know about this, my roommate loves this show and keeps me updated weather I like it or not.
Let me say this, Kate is hot.
Prototype
06-23-2009, 10:42 AM
I think TLC has them by the nuts that if they decided not to do the show anymore, no more house, no more paycheque, no more fancy life.
I'm going to play the snob/debbie downer card:
It's pretty easy to judge these people sitting at our computers. 8 effin kids? I'd probably turn into a bit of an ass too. It's also easy to call them greedy, exploitative and say that the fame killed their marriage. Perhaps they're in a brutally unique situation and the stats caught up to them?
I can't help but put myself in their position ... imagine having two kids, getting pregnant with six more (at the same damn time) and then realizing you'll have no way to support your family. TLC comes knocking and offers up $ ... would anybody here honestly not accept that offer?
People like to say "why aren't they doing this? They're so selfish and lazy!". For Christ sake people, it's a reality show. Does anybody feel like they are actually getting the whole story from a reality show and the tabloids? Who's to say they haven't given it a try?
They've made enough money from the show that they don't have to continue doing this. Why not stop and use that time to fix the marriage?
Jon has said on many occassions that he's had enough of being in the spotlight and wants out. Yet Kate is sooooo into her book tours and showcasing her kids to the rest of the world that she doesn't want to end the show. She loves the fame and fortune and won't let go.
Rerun
06-23-2009, 10:46 AM
Am I the only one who doesn't give a rats @ss about this show or their problems?
I've never watched an episode and don't plan to watch any in the future. Get a life people.
VladtheImpaler
06-23-2009, 10:49 AM
Mrs. Impaler really wanted to see the show last night, so I was stuck - nice hair by Wal-Mart there, Kate. Otherwise, I have no comment.
fotze
06-23-2009, 11:00 AM
The hair. I can't believe anyone would have that hair cut. I am still amazed someone would think that looks good. It screams "I don't want to be touched".Just have to quote this. Perfect summation of her and her hair.
Hate to pile on Kate because I am sure she isn't nearly as pure evil as Dion would believe, but you could just see her parenting powermom thing took all the fun out of being married to her. He is probably wondering "I should be getting something out of being married to her", after 4 years of not getting any and being told what to do and what you do do is all wrong.
Like that Jack Nicholson movie a while back about his loveless marriage to his wife after retirement "Who is this woman living in my house".
CrusaderPi
06-23-2009, 11:31 AM
Sad that I know about this, my roommate loves this show and keeps me updated weather I like it or not.
Let me say this, Kate is hot.
I wouldn't go so far as 'hot'. She probably only rises to the 'Id hit that' level. Maybe she gets 'milf' status on her best days.
Peanut
06-23-2009, 11:42 AM
Just have to quote this. Perfect summation of her and her hair.
Hate to pile on Kate because I am sure she isn't nearly as pure evil as Dion would believe, but you could just see her parenting powermom thing took all the fun out of being married to her. He is probably wondering "I should be getting something out of being married to her", after 4 years of not getting any and being told what to do and what you do do is all wrong.
Like that Jack Nicholson movie a while back about his loveless marriage to his wife after retirement "Who is this woman living in my house".
Exactly, it always takes two to tango. Neither is the innocent party in this.
As for the money and how it's required to raise 8 kids... it's sort of a valid point, but they apparently make upwards of $75,000 per episode. Last season (season 4 I think) they had 41 episodes!! Plus all their speaking engagements, Kate's 3 ghost-written books that she promotes, all the freebies they get for product placement on the show, it goes on and on. I get that it takes money to raise 8 kids, but it's been done by families before without tens of millions of dollars. They could've gotten off the gravy train a long time ago to try and sort out the marriage and save the family.
Oh well. They made their choices and now they have to live with them. Still sad for all those kids though. Having your family turmoil play out on TV can't be fun for anybody, let alone when you're 5 and 7 years old and didn't really choose to be involved in any of this (i.e. they didn't sign up for this TV show, their parents did).
mikey_the_redneck
06-23-2009, 11:43 AM
I wouldn't go so far as 'hot'. She probably only rises to the 'Id hit that' level. Maybe she gets 'milf' status on her best days.
I find her quite repulsive..........especially with the "I give up for lesbian" haircut and her mega bitchy attitude.
fotze
06-23-2009, 11:47 AM
I don't buy that the problems are purely from the show. He has said he was fine after the first set of twins and reluctantly agreed to the next baby, that turned out to be a freak litter. I could see some resentment there coupled with the loss of a wife who became robomom.
red sky
06-23-2009, 11:47 AM
I think the official term for her hair is The Volcano:
Lava in the front, explosion in the back.
onetwo_threefour
06-23-2009, 12:05 PM
This is why I watch cartoons...
Nobody gets hurt!
Exactly, it always takes two to tango. Neither is the innocent party in this.
I never said he was without fault. He was too passive for so many years which helped to create who she is today. He suddenly develops a backbone and issues with the marriage start to appear plus all the bickering.
He saw what this reality show was doing to thier lives and wanted to stop. Kate however didn't not feel the same way.
Clearly you have 2 people going in opposite directions. Divorce was probably the best solution as communication in the marriage stopped.
CaptainCrunch
06-23-2009, 12:19 PM
Are you kidding, I was watching Futurama last night and they killed off Kiff.
http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/0/3/kiff.jpg
Burninator
06-23-2009, 12:27 PM
I can't believe how many CPers are following this show. I've never heard of it till the lives of these two became "real news" (shown on news casts and newspapers). Put me in the group of not caring.
fotze
06-23-2009, 12:34 PM
I can't believe how many CPers are following this show.
You don't have a wife, do ya?
If there was a What Not To Wear scandal, I would know about that too.
onetwo_threefour
06-23-2009, 12:34 PM
Are you kidding, I was watching Futurama last night and they killed off Kiff.
http://z.about.com/d/animatedtv/1/0/3/kiff.jpg
Don't shatter my illusions man!
Bigtime
06-23-2009, 12:37 PM
Are you kidding, I was watching Futurama last night and they killed off Kiff.
Don't forget Fry's dog Seymour... that episode was a downer.
Eastern Girl
06-23-2009, 12:37 PM
I can't believe how many CPers are following this show. I've never heard of it till the lives of these two became "real news" (shown on news casts and newspapers). Put me in the group of not caring.
I'm the same way. Never watched the show, didn't know who they were when I started seeing them on magazine covers at the checkout counter. I don't really care about their problems, however callous that might sound.
... but here I am, reading a thread about them and responding in it... weird.
MissTeeks
06-23-2009, 12:38 PM
The show has been put on hiatus until August.
http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/06/jon-kate-on-hiatus-following-separation-announcement.html
Bigtime
06-23-2009, 12:39 PM
I'm guessing ratings will probably collapse for this show anyways. I think they were shedding viewers like mad since the premier show of this season, heard that on the radio last week.
CaptainCrunch
06-23-2009, 12:41 PM
http://www.have-you-met-ted.com/wp-content/uploads/radio-flyer-classic-red-tricycle.jpg
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http://www.luxuryhousingtrends.com/stained-concrete-garage-floor.jpg
Ford Prefect
06-23-2009, 12:57 PM
You don't have a wife, do ya?
If there was a What Not To Wear scandal, I would know about that too.
Ya, what is it with the TV programs that some women watch? I just refer to the TV drivel my wife watches as the "What Not To Wear While Renovating The Back Yard Of Your Real Estate Flip" show. It's on 24/7 too. Geez, what was wrong with Black Adder and Fawlty Towers. And Mary Hartman, Mary Hartman. Now those were TV programs worth watching. All this cable TV programing crap is, well, crap.
Bigtime
06-23-2009, 12:58 PM
Never forget the good ol'days of TLC, with shows like 'Extreme Machines' and other such awesomeness. Gone forever...
Edit: What exactly do we 'learn' from The Learning Channel now?
CrusaderPi
06-23-2009, 01:01 PM
Never forget the good ol'days of TLC, with shows like 'Extreme Machines' and other such awesomeness. Gone forever...
Edit: What exactly do we 'learn' from The Learning Channel now?
That learning doesn't pay the television bills. But midgets do.
Ethaniel
06-23-2009, 01:01 PM
Never forget the good ol'days of TLC, with shows like 'Extreme Machines' and other such awesomeness. Gone forever...
Edit: What exactly do we 'learn' from The Learning Channel now?
How to not have 8 kids to save a marriage?
How to get a divorce?
How to get a cake made by an Italian?
How Women should not dress?
How the Tree Guy came to be and what his problem is?
Bigtime
06-23-2009, 01:02 PM
So true, and shows about specialty cakes.
Edit: ^^^ Bam cake line right above me!
Rerun
06-23-2009, 01:08 PM
I can't believe Survivor is still out there (haven't watched it since the second season).
And whats with all these shows with midgets/dwarfs in them?
I do enjoy some of the home improvement shows though (like Holmes on Homes). Those I learn stuff from.
Suzles
06-23-2009, 01:10 PM
You don't have a wife, do ya?
If there was a What Not To Wear scandal, I would know about that too.
Bit insulting - I watch neither programmes. Not all women are empty headed and obsessed by gossip and fashion. :p
GreenTeaFrapp
06-23-2009, 01:10 PM
I don't know who they are since I can't tell them apart from the other couples who have gotten on tv for no other reason then they have a whole lot of kids. But it takes a real piece of crap parent to put their own selfish needs (i.e. a divorce) before the best interests of their kids. Especially when you've got so many kids.
Sometimes I wish I was a religious person just so that I could take solace in the fact that worthless human beings will one day end up in hell.
Regorium
06-23-2009, 01:11 PM
Speaking of TLC shows, when did Mythbusters add the "other" crew? I find that their experiments and results are far crappier than Jamie and Adam.
Though it is still interesting. Just watched one where they tried to replicate the Hollywood heist (like using foundation to illuminate laser security systems), and one with breaking out of jail. I just like Jamie and Adam a lot more.
Jon and Kate used to be interesting and connected with reality when they had to scrimp and save. Now, the show just gets free perks from everywhere they go and I guess people can no longer relate to them. I think the broken marriage really wasn't the target audience for this show.
Speaking of TLC shows, when did Mythbusters add the "other" crew? I find that their experiments and results are far crappier than Jamie and Adam.
Though it is still interesting. Just watched one where they tried to replicate the Hollywood heist (like using foundation to illuminate laser security systems), and one with breaking out of jail. I just like Jamie and Adam a lot more.
Jon and Kate used to be interesting and connected with reality when they had to scrimp and save. Now, the show just gets free perks from everywhere they go and I guess people can no longer relate to them. I think the broken marriage really wasn't the target audience for this show.
You arnt speaking of TLC with Mythbusters, that is on Discovery (which shows real science stuff)
TLC is all shopping and midgets and families and fashion.
Phanuthier
06-23-2009, 01:41 PM
I honestly never heard of Kate and Jon (isn't Kate one of those girl twins?) until this thread, and now its on every radio station. (or maybe before, i just wasn't paying attention)
But it takes a real piece of crap parent to put their own selfish needs (i.e. a divorce) before the best interests of their kids. Especially when you've got so many kids.
It's not always that simple. My sister and her ex went through a divorce some 7 years ago. She found out that he was cheating on her and the kids knew. I don't see how it would have been better if they stayed together.
GreenTeaFrapp
06-23-2009, 02:35 PM
It's not always that simple. My sister and her ex went through a divorce some 7 years ago. She found out that he was cheating on her and the kids knew. I don't see how it would have been better if they stayed together.
I didn't mean that divorce in and of itself is a selfish thing but the actions that lead up to it can make it inevitable are selfish.
Your sister's ex was a piece of crap who should haven't have been cheating in the first place. If he hadn't done that, maybe they could have resolved whatever issues they had and the kids would probably be better off. Now the kids have to deal with the fact that their father, who they must love because he's their father, is a selfish cheater.
I didn't mean that divorce in and of itself is a selfish thing but the actions that lead up to it can make it inevitable are selfish.
He was a piece of crap who should haven't have been cheating in the first place. If he hadn't done that, maybe they could have resolved whatever issues they had and the kids would probably be better off. Now the kids have to deal with the fact that their father, who they must love because he's their father, is a selfish cheater.
It's been noted that she cheated on him with her body guard. So I guess that makes them both selfish. More reason to not be together any longer.
GreenTeaFrapp
06-23-2009, 02:40 PM
It's been noted that she cheated on him with her body guard. So I guess that makes them both selfish. More reason to not be together any longer.
I was talking about Dion's sister's ex, not Jon. I don't know the whole story about Kate and Jon and I don't really care to.I do feel sorry for their kids who had no say in this matter and are the ones who are going to be the most affected by it.
I was talking about Dion's sister's ex, not Jon. I don't know the whole story about Kate and Jon and I don't really care to.I do feel sorry for their kids who had no say in this matter and are the ones who are going to be the most affected by it.
Hahah sorry, I skipped a page or 2 :)
Yep, the kids are always the ones getting screwed in any situtation like this.
Jagger
06-23-2009, 05:00 PM
Ya, what is it with the TV programs that some women watch? I just refer to the TV drivel my wife watches as the "What Not To Wear While Renovating The Back Yard Of Your Real Estate Flip" show. .
Yeah, I have to watch that sort of crap with my wife sometimes but she is also hooked on "Top Gear"
So all's not so bad. Top Gear is awesome.
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I didn't mean that divorce in and of itself is a selfish thing but the actions that lead up to it can make it inevitable are selfish.
Your sister's ex was a piece of crap who should haven't have been cheating in the first place. If he hadn't done that, maybe they could have resolved whatever issues they had and the kids would probably be better off. Now the kids have to deal with the fact that their father, who they must love because he's their father, is a selfish cheater.
Fair enough - i see your point :)
rubecube
06-23-2009, 05:46 PM
Jon got popular with the ladies and saw what his life would be like without having to hump an empty pillow-case.
Fixed.
wittynickname
06-23-2009, 08:30 PM
1) I didn't double check this--but it seems more guys are talking about this situation than women in this thread. Funny how that works, when we're supposed to be the ones who watch this crap all the time (I admit I watched last night's episode, but other than that, all I know of it is what they show on The Soup.).
2) For what it's worth, to me it seems like What Not to Wear actually offers some knowledge to its viewers. Because I've seen a whole lot of women out there who have absolutely no idea how to dress themselves. If WNTW manages to get a woman who should be wearing a size 16 out of a size 8 and a belly shirt with rolls hanging out all over the place, I think that it benefits all of us.
It's not so much about "labels" and what's the hippest, most trendy fashion, it's about teaching a person how to dress so they don't look like a complete idiot.
ResAlien
06-24-2009, 12:00 AM
It's been noted that she cheated on him with her body guard. So I guess that makes them both selfish. More reason to not be together any longer.
Cheating in marriage = instant divorce you whore bag.
I had no idea who these people were before I saw this thread, and now after talking to the gossipy ladies at my work I can see that wow, this is a trainwreck of Edmontonian proportions. Dude, stop the TV show and attempt to reconcile if that's your thing. Hope Supercuts mom has fun having her disgusting excuse of a motherhood recorded on video for her kids to watch once they hit HS.
CaptainCrunch
06-24-2009, 12:17 AM
I'd totally do her, but I'm worried that my bare ass would end up on reality T.V., and nobody wants to see that.
When the show returns in August they should rename it...."Who Wants to Date a Psycho Control Freak?"
Orange
06-24-2009, 01:20 AM
Speaking of TLC shows, when did Mythbusters add the "other" crew? I find that their experiments and results are far crappier than Jamie and Adam.
Though it is still interesting. Just watched one where they tried to replicate the Hollywood heist (like using foundation to illuminate laser security systems), and one with breaking out of jail. I just like Jamie and Adam a lot more.
I'm by no means a Mythbusters fan, but I definetly like the "other" crew better the seldom times I do watch it. Jamie and Adam, I forget which one is which, but one's a big ###### and the other tries to be that random childish funny but fails horribly. The thing with Jamie and Adam is they get to do the interesting myths and the other crew gets stuck with crap.
Adam: today we're going to try and do something with massive jets, maybe a cannon or two, we'll try to throw in a couple ninjas and then end up blowing up what ever is left. The other crew is going to see if a tree has feelings by gently talking to it.
But now I am way off topic of this oh so important thread :P
While it may be that Jon, now 32, has hit an early mid-life crisis, or has simply become tired of his wife's nagging, one psychiatrist believes that the couple would have remained married, or at least not split up so quickly, had they not been on the show for two reasons.
"One is that I think Kate's criticism or put-downs, Kate's controlling and demeaning attitude toward Jon, became heightened because she was on television. She was playing to the camera. She wanted to show everyone that she was the poor wife who had to suffer with Jon," Dr. Carole Lieberman told CTV.ca in a telephone interview from Beverly Hills.
"And Jon became humiliated and felt as though he had to leave in order to show the world that he was a man and his celebrity status now gave him the self-esteem to think that he could get other women. So neither of those things would have happened had they not been on television."
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090623/reality_shows_090623/20090623?hub=TopStories
BuzzardsWife
06-24-2009, 07:31 AM
Kate is in such denial, thinking this is all Jon's fault, but she is so self indulged and such a beeotch..I'm glad Jon finally grew some, but I still wish for the sake of the kids they could have gone to marriage counceling, and at least tried for 8 kids sake! I think at this point Jon is almost giddy about getting out from under her regime. I don't think Kate is the type to take any blame for anything though. She has alienated every family member of hers and Jons over the years now. Doesn't that give her a clue?
ken0042
06-24-2009, 07:42 AM
1) I didn't double check this--but it seems more guys are talking about this situation than women in this thread. Funny how that works, when we're supposed to be the ones who watch this crap all the time (I admit I watched last night's episode, but other than that, all I know of it is what they show on The Soup.).
Considering the ratio of men-women on CP is at least 10-1; if not a lot higher... I think that might explain it.
mikey_the_redneck
06-24-2009, 08:34 AM
Alot of people in here talk about marriage counciling like it is some great method of keeping a marriage together........yet marriage counciling as a whole has not even put a dent in the 50+% divorce rate....
love=passion+respect.................when one partner loses respect for the other, its over plain and simple. I dont watch Jon & Kate, but it sounds to me like Kate doesn't respect Jon because he has no balls, therefore their marriage is over.
sclitheroe
06-24-2009, 08:39 AM
What fascinates me about the show now is the machinations of network television. All those advertisers and product placements they whored their families to are riding this all the way to the end, taking every last opportunity to advertise and sell their wares on the backs of this misery. A part of me secretly loves it - they made their deal with the devil and its literally costing them a pound of flesh. How anyone in this day and age could not see it coming, I don't know, but I guess all that money and fame is awfully seductive.
http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/www.vancouversun.com/entertainment/kate+plus+hair+today+gone+tomorrow/1706210/1706215.bin?size=620x400
Separated at birth? 80's superband A Flock of Seagulls alongside new millenium uber-celeb Kate Gosselin, sporting nigh identical hairstyles.
Peanut
06-24-2009, 12:12 PM
Bit insulting - I watch neither programmes. Not all women are empty headed and obsessed by gossip and fashion. :p
Hey!! Not all women are empty headed just because they are slightly obsessed with gossip and fashion. It's called "mindless entertainment" and I admit to enjoying it. But I'm not empty-headed. ;)
FireFly
06-24-2009, 12:14 PM
The thing that gets me is that Kate keeps saying that everything she does is for the children, but the ONE THING they need the most is parents who love each other and the biggest thing ANYONE can do for their children is have a loving marriage. The spouse should ALWAYS be first because when the marriage is happy, so are the children.
edn88
06-24-2009, 12:21 PM
I have never watched the program, and am personally appalled at the concept of putting this sort of thing on TV. I don't mind me some "reality" TV from time to time, but this sort of thing doesn't do it for me.
Exploiting children for financial gain is ridiculous. It is no small surprise that Jon & Kate are having marital problems with their life literally under a microscope. I wonder how messed up these kids will be as they grow up. And don't use the argument that the parents are making money to make these kids lives better - they would be better off living with some social assistance and learning how to live in the real world.
Kate's brother Kevin Kreider and his wife Jodi expresses outrage that Jon and Kate would separate on national television! He worries that the pain of their pending divorce will be enough for their eight children to endure, without the world knowing every detail of their family's personal struggles.
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Bagor
06-24-2009, 07:37 PM
Kate's brother Kevin Kreider and his wife Jodi expresses outrage that Jon and Kate would separate on national television!
Seems like quite the honourable chap. Expressing his outrage on video?
Isn't that the sort of conversation they could have had with her in private and left it at that?
Yeah_Baby
06-24-2009, 07:49 PM
Seems like quite the honourable chap. Expressing his outrage on video?
Isn't that the sort of conversation they could have had with her in private and left it at that?
Exactly, I can imagine how much fun Kate's parents had putting up with her and her brother both vying for attention.
Seems like quite the honourable chap. Expressing his outrage on video?
Isn't that the sort of conversation they could have had with her in private and left it at that?
They did and that went nowhere ;)
When he broached the subject with Jon and Kate in the past, Kevin said the couple told him, "'This is what we chose. This is how we're going to provide for them.'"
Now they decided to speak out against the abuse of the children......
We feel that they've chosen this path with disregard to their children's safety, security," he said.
Despite Kate's previous claims, Jodi also said the kids do not like the cameramen in their home all the time.
"They don't want the cameras around. They have told me personally," said Jodi. "They would say, 'Aunt Jodi, I don't like the cameras on every vacation with us.'"
"Kids have bad moments, and they cry," Jodi added. "Having a camera zoom in on a crying child... this should not be a form of entertainment."
Above all, Kevin said he wants Jon and Kate to "see the effects and see what is most important."
http://www.usmagazine.com/news/kin-jon-and-kate-gosselins-kids-are-being-exploited-2009275
doozwimp
06-24-2009, 08:05 PM
Never forget the good ol'days of TLC, with shows like 'Extreme Machines' and other such awesomeness. Gone forever...
Edit: What exactly do we 'learn' from The Learning Channel now?
Junkyard Wars was awesome!
peter12
06-24-2009, 08:23 PM
Alot of people in here talk about marriage counciling like it is some great method of keeping a marriage together........yet marriage counciling as a whole has not even put a dent in the 50+% divorce rate....
love=passion+respect.................when one partner loses respect for the other, its over plain and simple. I dont watch Jon & Kate, but it sounds to me like Kate doesn't respect Jon because he has no balls, therefore their marriage is over.
I agree. When a couple agrees that their love for one another is cheap enough to be put on TV for millions of people, chances are that it's going to be over pretty soon.
Yeah_Baby
06-24-2009, 08:26 PM
They did and that went nowhere ;)
Now they decided to speak out against the abuse of the children......
http://www.usmagazine.com/news/kin-jon-and-kate-gosselins-kids-are-being-exploited-2009275
I'm sorry, still seems as if they're in the press for the well, the press. Perhaps their hearts are in the right place. But it still seems like media posturing to get their 15 minutes.
I'm sorry, still seems as if they're in the press for the well, the press. Perhaps their hearts are in the right place. But it still seems like media posturing to get their 15 minutes.
How else do you get the message out when the parents won't listen?
In thier position i would probably do the same. And i don't call have grave concerns for the kids, media posturing for 15 minutes of fame.
Using the media to get your message out can be an effective way reach a lot of people. Maybe they hope the viewing audience will take thier message to heart and stop watching the show. Bad ratings are a good way to kill any show.
BuzzardsWife
06-25-2009, 09:26 AM
Here's my take. As much as I can't stand Kate, she's really been raising 9 children. Jon couldn't grow a pair when he was with Kate, so now he does, and he splits with his 21 year old girlfriend. Why not grow a pair and start 'ruling the roost' a bit yourself. He could have manned up, but instead he got a sports car, pierced his ears and got a college gfriend? and he has 8 kids????? I know everyone is on Jon's side, but in my opinion he's acting like an idiot.
troutman
06-25-2009, 09:28 AM
Here's my take. As much as I can't stand Kate, she's really been raising 9 children. Jon couldn't grow a pair when he was with Kate, so now he does, and he splits with his 21 year old girlfriend. Why not grow a pair and start 'ruling the roost' a bit yourself. He could have manned up, but instead he got a sports car, pierced his ears and got a college gfriend? and he has 8 kids????? I know everyone is on Jon's side, but in my opinion he's acting like an idiot.
Kate would never stand for a Jon that "had a pair".
Here's my take. As much as I can't stand Kate, she's really been raising 9 children. Jon couldn't grow a pair when he was with Kate, so now he does, and he splits with his 21 year old girlfriend. Why not grow a pair and start 'ruling the roost' a bit yourself. He could have manned up, but instead he got a sports car, pierced his ears and got a college gfriend? and he has 8 kids????? I know everyone is on Jon's side, but in my opinion he's acting like an idiot.
Meanwhile Kate disappears for 20 days on a book tour to promote her new book leaving Jon to take care of the kids. Maybe Kate should set aside her goals of fame and fortune and focus on what's best for the kids.
Ohhh and Kate would never let Jon grow a pair. Anytime he opened his mouth she cut him down, insulted him and generaly belittled him. It's no wonder he doesn't want to spent anytime with that bitch.
troutman
06-25-2009, 09:46 AM
http://www.calgaryherald.com/Sports/Kate+Plus+Deanna+Hummel+appear+future+episodes/1729219/story.html
Hummel might not make the cut: She's reportedly not Gosselin's girlfriend any more. That honour has allegedly fallen to the daughter of his ex-wife's plastic surgeon.
Superflyer
06-25-2009, 12:53 PM
I have never watched this show and saw it popping up everywhere lately and still tried to avoid it because I don't care. Then I see this thread and tried to avoid it but it just kept hanging around on the main page so I had to read it hoping there was a fight going on, sadly there was not.
So anyways after reading it all the only thing that I can say that may help save this show and their marriage is this: A tie in with the Dr. Phil show! Can't you see it, it would be huge!!!
Boblobla
06-25-2009, 12:55 PM
^^^ Hmmm, i don't see that lasting long.
Yeah_Baby
06-25-2009, 01:13 PM
I don't totally get all the venom people are throwing at Kate. Jon is no angel himself. Lets pass judgment on him too. Seems like he's getting more a free ride because "Kate's a bitch". If our society is degraded to this point, lets so a bit of social progress and judge both bad parents equally. And no be Sarah Palin critical just on the woman.
I just want this to continue to go horribly wrong. It is like driving by an accident, you just can't help but look.
I want fights, divorces, scandals, kids to grow up all effed up, drug abuse, a gay scandal, spousal abuse.
This show represents everything that is wrong with America and needs a few more components to complete the effed up trifecta.
Boblobla
06-25-2009, 01:56 PM
I don't totally get all the venom people are throwing at Kate. Jon is no angel himself. Lets pass judgment on him too. Seems like he's getting more a free ride because "Kate's a bitch". If our society is degraded to this point, lets so a bit of social progress and judge both bad parents equally. And no be Sarah Palin critical just on the woman.
So you want me to judge the guy who put up with a monstrous beeoch of a wife for 9.5 and then finally got sick of it and hammered some 21 year old hottie?
BuzzardsWife
06-25-2009, 02:00 PM
So you want me to judge the guy who put up with a monstrous beeoch of a wife for 9.5 and then finally got sick of it and hammered some 21 year old hottie?hottie? have you seen her?
Boblobla
06-25-2009, 02:19 PM
hottie? have you seen her?
nope. I was making an assumption. Is she fugly?
CrusaderPi
06-25-2009, 02:25 PM
nope. I was making an assumption. Is she fugly?
Well she has a few things going for her. Like, she's 21. And not his wife.
Boblobla
06-25-2009, 02:33 PM
Well she has a few things going for her. Like, she's 21. And not his wife.
That is kinda what I was trying to get at. Plus the whole hotdog down a hallway thing after popping out 8 kids...
Although it was probably a c-section. Whatever, i stand by the comment.
Yeah_Baby
06-25-2009, 02:43 PM
So you want me to judge the guy who put up with a monstrous beeoch of a wife for 9.5 and then finally got sick of it and hammered some 21 year old hottie?
I'll bite. Regardless of "putting up with a monstrous beeoch of a wife for 9.5" and than plowing a hottie if their were marital problems you need to work your way out of a marriage. There seems to have been no consoloing etc, they didn't try to make the marriage work. They're both equally at fault in my opinion. But but all means continue to show societies structural inequalties by being uber judgemental and critcal of a woman and "understanding" the man and letting him off the hook without blame.
Well she has a few things going for her. Like, she's 21. And not his wife.
http://www.lugaluda.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kate-gosselin-bikini-4.jpg
Boblobla
06-25-2009, 02:51 PM
I think the reason people are being harder on Kate is her response has mainly been "Well, I never saw it coming, I don't know what I could have done to prevent it" and stuff like that. I think she did say once in the show that maybe she could have been a better communicator, but that was the extent of her acknowledgment of guilt.
John on the other hand has been freely admitting all season that he effed up and knows it. He highlights his downfalls and accepts responsibility.
Not everyone is harder on Kate either, the Mrs (the only reason I know anything about this stupid show) think John is a d-bag. I said years ago to my fiancée that if Kate kept talking down to her husband like that they were going to get divorced.
Yeah_Baby
06-25-2009, 03:00 PM
I definitely agree that Kate has some serious denial issues going on. And for the record Boblobla I didn't mean to attack you if it came off that way. I just can't watch tv these days without hearing about this, and how evil Kate is and while she is flawed, it takes two to tango.
Prototype
06-25-2009, 03:05 PM
I think she did say once in the show that maybe she could have been a better communicator, but that was the extent of her acknowledgment of guilt.
IIRC, on the first episode this season, Kate did say she was hard on John... maybe a little too much.
CrusaderPi
06-25-2009, 03:07 PM
I definitely agree that Kate has some serious denial issues going on. And for the record Boblobla I didn't mean to attack you if it came off that way. I just can't watch tv these days without hearing about this, and how evil Kate is and while she is flawed, it takes two to tango.
Yes. Kate and the dude Kate slept with. Bank on it.
Boblobla
06-25-2009, 03:10 PM
I definitely agree that Kate has some serious denial issues going on. And for the record Boblobla I didn't mean to attack you if it came off that way. I just can't watch tv these days without hearing about this, and how evil Kate is and while she is flawed, it takes two to tango.
While I do agree that no party is blameless I struggle putting it at 50/50 just based on how she treats him. Respect is one of the most important pillars in marriage in my opinion and she did not respect her husband.
Communication is also huge, but the thing that John wasn't communicating is that he wanted more respect, so it still for me goes back to Kate.
Yeah_Baby
06-25-2009, 03:11 PM
I'm now officially done with this thread.
Ethaniel
06-25-2009, 03:12 PM
I personally think this all roots from the fact Jon did not want to have another child and Kate did. Thus they had 6 (number doesn't matter), but I believe most marriages that disagree on the amount of children they want/have is in trouble outta the gate.
mikey_the_redneck
06-25-2009, 03:14 PM
I just googled her, and Hummel is DEFINATELY not a hottie.....
she is almost in gargoyle territory.
Rerun
06-25-2009, 03:19 PM
Never watched the show but from what everybody (opposite to noone ;) ) is saying, it sounds like Kate definitely wears the pants in the family.
I did watch an episode of American Chopper where Kate and Jon were on (my only exposure to this couple) and Jon got a chopper while Kate got a pink scooter.
I'm surprised that Kate didn't take the chopper and give the scooter to Jon.
He did seem kind of p-whipped.... :whistle:
Rerun
06-25-2009, 03:21 PM
I just googled her, and Hummel is DEFINATELY not a hottie.....
she is almost in gargoyle territory.
Who is Hummel?
CrusaderPi
06-25-2009, 03:22 PM
Who is Hummel?
Its what John got?
Rerun
06-25-2009, 03:24 PM
Its what John got?
Jon got this?........
http://rosemarysantiqueshop.net/images/HummelJustResting.jpg
Yes. Kate and the dude Kate slept with. Bank on it.
She had an affair with her bodyguard.
I definitely agree that Kate has some serious denial issues going on.
She blames Jon for the breakup of the marriage. In her eyes she's done nothing wrong.
Yeah_Baby
06-25-2009, 05:22 PM
She had an affair with her bodyguard.
Is that confirmed? Or just hearsay.
Tyler
06-25-2009, 06:29 PM
Is that confirmed? Or just hearsay.
Hearsay
Yeah_Baby
06-25-2009, 06:49 PM
Hearsay
That's what I thought.
Is that confirmed? Or just hearsay.
According to US Weekly, many people have been noticing the affection that clearly exists between Kate and her bodyguard, to the point where Jon threatened to hire a private detective to get to the truth of the matter
An employee at a venue where the couple recently appeared was quoted in US as saying the pair were "very physical, often touching each other."
"She was gently poking him, giving him little love pats, totally unlike the slapping she does with Jon. She and Steve were joking around so much, I actually wondered if they were having an affair. There's a lot of open affection between them."
The same source reportedly told the magazine Gosselin showed no such affection for her husband.
http://www.vancouversun.com/News/Kate+Plus+cheating+whom/1600462/story.html
Smell My Finger
06-25-2009, 11:43 PM
Jon and 8 minus hate.
While the show is on hiatis TLC will be showing re runs of the 70's tv show "Eight is Enough" :D
SportsJunky
07-13-2009, 08:16 AM
Looks like Jon is not the martyr some would lead you to believe. Here he is with the new girlfriend.
http://blogs.nypost.com/popwrap/archives/2009/07/jon_gosselin_goes_public.html
http://blogs.nypost.com/popwrap/photos/jon-gosselin-holds-hands.jpg
Shazam
07-13-2009, 09:37 AM
Looks like Jon is not the martyr some would lead you to believe. Here he is with the new girlfriend.
http://blogs.nypost.com/popwrap/archives/2009/07/jon_gosselin_goes_public.html
http://blogs.nypost.com/popwrap/photos/jon-gosselin-holds-hands.jpgWhat an SOB. This is when I wish there wasn't a swear filter here.
Russic
07-13-2009, 10:04 AM
Perhaps I'm missing something here ... they've split up have they not? Is he not allowed to date? When Kate gets a boyfriend will she become a beacon of strength? I don't get the infatuation with these two. Yes I see the irony of making that comment in an internet thread about them, I just don't understand!
What an SOB. This is when I wish there wasn't a swear filter here.
Divorce papers have been filed. Do you expect Jon to stay single for the rest of his life?
His marriage with Kate is over and he's moving on with his life.
Perhaps I'm missing something here ... they've split up have they not? Is he not allowed to date?
I think there is a mathematical formula that determines the correct amount of time a person must spend alone before they find somebody else to date. I don't know what it is, but clearly Jon has violated the dates set forth by this formula.
It may not be good form on Jon's part but they are separated and going through a divorce. Sure he should be waiting until the divorce is finalized to at least publicly move on to somebody else, but he is allowed to move on. Both Jon and Kate are aware that they are over and both appeared to have been resigned to this fact for quite some time now.
CrusaderPi
07-13-2009, 10:30 AM
Divorces can take forever to finalize. Why should he wait for that? Out of love and obligation for a Kate? It's his obligation as a newly re-testicled man to go out and bang as many hot 20 somethings as possible.
peter12
07-13-2009, 10:33 AM
Divorces can take forever to finalize. Why should he wait for that? Out of love and obligation for a Kate? It's his obligation as a newly re-testicled man to go out and bang as many hot 20 somethings as possible.
Yep, forget about acting like a father and helping his kids transition over to this new life. He's got to think with his penis. Jeez, is he 18 years old? What a creep.
ernie
07-13-2009, 10:41 AM
Yep, forget about acting like a father and helping his kids transition over to this new life. He's got to think with his penis. Jeez, is he 18 years old? What a creep.
How exactly do you know he's not helping them? Because he went on a vacation?
Not saying he is or isn't father of the year but a vacation doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot.
peter12
07-13-2009, 10:42 AM
How exactly do you know he's not helping them? Because he went on a vacation?
Not saying he is or isn't father of the year but a vacation doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot.
Well, I don't really know or care. It just seems kind of weird for a newly divorced dad of 30 something to be bringing home a 23 year old. Doesn't say a lot for stability or his own personal ethics. But whatever.
CrusaderPi
07-13-2009, 10:45 AM
Don't worry Peter. The bodyguards will take care of the kids - when they aren't too busy banging Kate.
Allegedly.
Shazam
07-13-2009, 10:57 AM
Divorce papers have been filed. Do you expect Jon to stay single for the rest of his life?
His marriage with Kate is over and he's moving on with his life.Nothing like leaving eight kids in the lurch.
She's still a bitch from hell too.
Nothing like leaving eight kids in the lurch.
Those 8 kids were damaged goods before this divorce thing even started.
J pold
07-13-2009, 11:08 AM
Remind me again why anybody cares about these ridiculous human beings?
The only people worse than these two clowns are the people who follow their every move, giving them the undeserved spotlight and validating their pathetic celebrity status.
CaptainCrunch
07-13-2009, 11:38 AM
Good for him (Start slow clap)
Good for him (Start slow clap)
http://i25.tinypic.com/2i03ihi.gif
Shazam
07-13-2009, 11:47 AM
Those 8 kids were damaged goods before this divorce thing even started.Oh good, now they can be even more damagerered.
Oh good, now they can be even more damagerered.
I doubt that's even possible. They don't know what a normal family life is.
Boblobla
07-13-2009, 12:02 PM
Well, I don't really know or care. It just seems kind of weird for a newly divorced dad of 30 something to be bringing home a 23 year old. Doesn't say a lot for stability or his own personal ethics. But whatever.
So is the age gap unethical? There is 14 years between my parents and I don't have a problem with that.
worth
07-13-2009, 12:04 PM
I occasionally watch American Chopper and I saw the one where they did the bike for Jon, and that was my first experience into that show, and man, I must say, I don't know how that dude could have gone on living like that. Like wft man, grow a friggin spine. She does nothing but whine and complain and he just mopes around and doesn't say anything. What a disaster family.
PS, I should stop watching american chopper because that show is bunk now as well. Ohhh the drama! Just build bikes fer christ sakes. I do not care about your mental break down or your lingere store or whatever.
Ironhorse
07-13-2009, 12:07 PM
PS, I should stop watching american chopper because that show is bunk now as well. Ohhh the drama! Just build bikes fer christ sakes. I do not care about your mental break down or your lingere store or whatever.I agree. The first season or two was worthwhile, Paul Sr. and Jr. are at their dysfunctional best there, and didn't play it up all that much yet.
Blaster86
07-13-2009, 12:18 PM
Remind me again why anybody cares about these ridiculous human beings?
The only people worse than these two clowns are the people who follow their every move, giving them the undeserved spotlight and validating their pathetic celebrity status.
"By stating an inflammatory opinion that will smack in the face of most of the people in this thread I prove how cool and hardcore I am.
My angry opinion will win me friends on the internet by proving how edgy I am thus showing people my brooding, devil-may-care, rockstar-esque persona!"
J pold
07-13-2009, 02:31 PM
"By stating an inflammatory opinion that will smack in the face of most of the people in this thread I prove how cool and hardcore I am.
My angry opinion will win me friends on the internet by proving how edgy I am thus showing people my brooding, devil-may-care, rockstar-esque persona!"
If condoning the exploitation of a family, and expressing my disappointment in anyone who considers said exploitation as means of there own personal entertainment makes me "hardcore" or gives me an "rockstar-esque personal" so be it.
If condoning the exploitation of a family, and expressing my disappointment in anyone who considers said exploitation as means of there own personal entertainment makes me "hardcore" or gives me an "rockstar-esque personal" so be it.
People following this family are trying to point out the explotation this family is doing to thier kids. Not everyone views that show as entertainment.
Blaster86
07-13-2009, 02:53 PM
If condoning the exploitation of a family, and expressing my disappointment in anyone who considers said exploitation as means of there own personal entertainment makes me "hardcore" or gives me an "rockstar-esque personal" so be it.
The bull**** and holier-than-thou attitude smeared all throughout your post is almost sickening.
Sad that I know about this, my roommate loves this show and keeps me updated weather I like it or not.
Let me say this, Kate is hot.
Yeah, you sure care about the "exploitation" of these people, don't you? You crusader, you!
"Well they're being taken advantage of, and their personal lives are being ripped apart by the media... I'd totally do her anyways!"
The only exploitation that has happened in regards to this show, is you exploiting their current situation to make yourself look better after getting called out on being an ass. You sure didn't seem to care anything about it before then.
Well done.
Edit- as pointed out by Dion above, some people are following this for different reasons. Did they exploit their kids? Likely, but those kids are likely set for life because of it (I certainly hope they are, anyways).
Well, I don't really know or care. It just seems kind of weird for a newly divorced dad of 30 something to be bringing home a 23 year old. Doesn't say a lot for stability or his own personal ethics. But whatever.
What's wrong with 23? According to Wikipedia, he's 32. Is nine years really that big of a deal? It's not like he's 20 and she's 11. I don't get why you're bringing up personal ethics with regards to an age difference.
An adult is an adult. I really think it's time that society stops attaching a stigma to relationships with an age gap. Especially one that's only nine years.
Rerun
07-13-2009, 03:10 PM
Divorce papers have been filed. Do you expect Jon to stay single for the rest of his life?
His marriage with Kate is over and he's moving on with his life.
I agree. Let the guy get on with his life. Good luck to him.
J pold
07-13-2009, 03:14 PM
People following this family are trying to point out the explotation this family is doing to thier kids. Not everyone views that show as entertainment.
What other purpose does it serve other than entertainment? It hardly holds any educational value and I fail to see how watching it is pointing out the exploitation. If the show has no viewers than there isn't any show and thus no exploitation.
The bull**** and holier-than-thou attitude smeared all throughout your post is almost sickening.
No. what's sickening is that people choose to emerse themselves in the diveril that the show has become.
Yeah, you sure care about the "exploitation" of these people, don't you? You crusader, you!
"Well they're being taken advantage of, and their personal lives are being ripped apart by the media... I'd totally do her anyways!"
I don't really care about the exloitation of these two, they signed up for this garabage so now they have to lay in it. My heart goes out to the childern. Oh and please don't put words in my mouth in an attempt to make me look like the bad guy for choosing not to watch this awful television show.
The only exploitation that has happened in regards to this show, is you exploiting their current situation to make yourself look better after getting called out on being an ass. You sure didn't seem to care anything about it before then.
Yes it's my I'm the bad guy here, I'm the one doing the exploiting by condoning, and refusing to watch the show, right.
Well done.
Edit- as pointed out by Dion above, some people are following this for different reasons. Did they exploit their kids? Likely, but those kids are likely set for life because of it (I certainly hope they are, anyways).
What other reasons are there to watch the show other than entertinament?
What other purpose does it serve other than entertainment? It hardly holds any educational value and I fail to see how watching it is pointing out the exploitation. If the show has no viewers than there isn't any show and thus no exploitation.
If nobody watched it how would anyone know the children are being exploited?
"I can confirm that our bureau of labor law compliance is conducting an investigation as they do whenever they receive a charge," said Christopher Manlove, a spokesman for the Pennsylvania Department of Labor and Industry.
Manlove would not say who filed the complaint, when it was filed or what the exact allegations are. "Because the case is ongoing I can't discuss the content of the investigation," he said.
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20281956,00.html
peter12
07-13-2009, 03:32 PM
What's wrong with 23? According to Wikipedia, he's 32. Is nine years really that big of a deal? It's not like he's 20 and she's 11. I don't get why you're bringing up personal ethics with regards to an age difference.
An adult is an adult. I really think it's time that society stops attaching a stigma to relationships with an age gap. Especially one that's only nine years.
I have no problem with the age, just the fact that he goes for her so soon kind of shows where he has placed his priorities.
Oh. Well your post seemed to indicate otherwise.
peter12
07-13-2009, 03:37 PM
Oh. Well your post seemed to indicate otherwise.
Well now we all know and everyone is better for it.
ken0042
07-13-2009, 03:37 PM
I have no problem with the age, just the fact that he goes for her so soon kind of shows where he has placed his priorities.
For me this is just as bad as saying there can only be a certain age gap. Why must there be a waiting period? It's not like the love of his life died in some sort of accident; the relationship had been getting worse and worse for a while. He could easily have been "done" with the marriage months ago, but stayed faithful while the marriage was still in effect.
peter12
07-13-2009, 03:41 PM
For me this is just as bad as saying there can only be a certain age gap. Why must there be a waiting period? It's not like the love of his life died in some sort of accident; the relationship had been getting worse and worse for a while. He could easily have been "done" with the marriage months ago, but stayed faithful while the marriage was still in effect.
No, it's totally true. I guess I just don't care either way. I think I was attempting to muster up some moral outrage to fit in or something.
No, it's totally true. I guess I just don't care either way. I think I was attempting to muster up some moral outrage to fit in or something.
I think this might be the first time in the history of the internet that someone admitted this. Well done, pete.
peter12
07-13-2009, 03:45 PM
I think this might be the first time in the history of the internet that someone admitted this. Well done, pete.
For some reason, the clarity is shining through the clouds of internet rage today.
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