CP's NHL 13 Connected GM Interest Thread

[Joborule]

**To sign up for the PS3 league, click here (http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=120128).**
**For Xbox 360 league, click here (http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=120130).**


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NHL 13 will feature Connected GM (Online Be-A-GM)
GM Connected – The ultimate fantasy league with friends. GM Connected takes the franchise’s most popular offline mode, Be a GM, and allows you to play with and against your friends in your own 30-team NHL. Whether you are a hardcore sports gamer or a hockey fan that moonlights as an armchair general manager, the mode offers unrivaled accessibility and depth by allowing players to manage, play or coach on the road to building your team’s legacy. GM’s can also take their experience with them with a mobile companion app, ensuring that they never miss a single moment.
More info on NHL 13 (http://www.easports.com/nhl/news/article/nhl-13-is-changing-the-game)

Since there's some interested in starting up a league for CP over in the NHL thread in tech talk (http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=117562), we could use this thread to gauge interest for both Xbox and PS3.

If you're interested in joining a CP NHL 13 Online Dynasty league, post in this thread and which system you'll play the game on.

Xbox 360 (23):
Ashasx
FlamesKickAss
devo22
nickerjones
Pierre "Monster" McGuire
3 Justin 3 (+2?)
Mitch
La Flames Fan
miraisoup
dissentowner
Hockey
bubbsy
saskflames96
HellFire
Gary83
Jayems
northcrunk
Hades
FlyinDonutz
emti
cznTiburon
kobasew19
psicodude

PS3 (32):
Joborule
secol
mpaca
Russic
DropIt
likwid888
Rhettzky
silentsim
OutOfTheCube
Red John
Flash Walken
Pacem
ComixZone
kunkstyle
jayocal
flamestalker
Stealth22
Iniggywetrust
king_amonte
zukes
Fransken (+2?)
Baxter Renegade
keenan87
Diemenz
Conman57
theClassic09
RedMile34
FlamesFanStrandedInEDM
bspec8
Glorious #1
expo2428
bax

[secol]

are we going to do it like a fantasy league + versus (more like HUT) or a fantasy league + sim (pure BAG)? either way i'd be interested ps3 jojo

[Joborule]

are we going to do it like a fantasy league + versus (more like HUT) or a fantasy league + sim (pure BAG)? either way i'd be interested ps3 jojo

I would like to play the games so the former, but if there's interest for latter we can certainly do that.

[likwid888]

I'm in if we sim. Single player annoys the crap out of me, as I never switch to the player I want when I'm defending.

[Ashasx]

I'm interested. 360.

[Lego Man]

I'm interested in joining the Connected GM for PS3.

[FlamesKickAss]

Yeah I would join the Xbox version! I missed playing this way, like back in the computer days of NHL 99!

[Russic]

You know I'm in. PS3.

[DropIt]

im in as well ps3

[devo22]

I'm in. 360.

[nickerjones]

360 as well

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Count me in for the 360. This is going to be fun.

[Rhettzky]

I'm in for ps3.

[silentsim]

In for ps3

[OutOfTheCube]

Definitely in for PS3, all I play is Be a GM mode, been hoping for some sort of online implementation for years. Whether it's playing or simming or a league of both, count me in!

EDIT: And I better get Buffalo ;)

[3 Justin 3]

I'm definitely in for the 360.

[Red John]

Ps3

[secol]

i think if we do it a fantasy draft would be the best way to go....otherwise somebody is gonna be stuck with a team they might not want and fantasy draft would be the fairest

[Flash Walken]

I think Fantasy draft has to be the way to go, too.

It's one thing to have an even mix of players, it's quite another to be stuck with players on your team you don't want to play with.

I'd hate to have to do a bunch of trades right off the start to get my team half decent.

Also, I'm in.

I have to get a new ps3, but, I'm in.

[Pacem]

PS3.

Definitely interested. Just saw this thread so haven't read much into the new online mode. So we can sim or play depending on what schedules are like? Or does it have to be an all play league or an all sim league? If that is the case I think i'd have to do sims, as Im in a PST time zone and I tend to game late at night, not during prime evening hours.

Also, DAMN YOU EA. I only buy your hockey game every 2 years. Online be a GM mode is prolly enough to make me buy this game 2 years in a row ><.

[Mitch]

I'm interested. 360

[La Flames Fan]

Darn right I'm in...XBOX360

[ComixZone]

I'm definitely in. (PS3, I don't think I'll get both 360/PS3 versions this year, I'll just focus on PS3)

[3 Justin 3]

I assume both leagues (PS3 and 360) will be doing Fantasy Draft. That is what I want anyway for the 360 league, Fantasy Draft's are not only more fun, but more fair as well.

Since we need teams as well I'll go Avalanche.

[miraisoup]

I would be down for the 360 version for sure.

I'll play or just manage it doesn't matter to me.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Is it possible to fantasy draft instead of start with a team's current roster?

I'm assuming since this is a Flames site, everyone will be wanting to be the Flames, so I was wondering if we shouldn't do a fantasy draft so we can all pick the Flames players (and other players from around the league) that we like?

Just a thought.

[likwid888]

Is it possible to fantasy draft instead of start with a team's current roster?

I'm assuming since this is a Flames site, everyone will be wanting to be the Flames, so I was wondering if we shouldn't do a fantasy draft so we can all pick the Flames players (and other players from around the league) that we like?

Just a thought.

Agreed, this will make things a lot more interesting and will allow us to really flex our GM muscle right from the start.

[kunkstyle]

Intriguing. I suck at the GM portion of BeAGM, but I'd be interested. PS3.

[3 Justin 3]

Fantasy Draft all the way. It's much fairer, though it is incredibly hard to do because we need to fit it in with everyone's free time.

[dissentowner]

I am in for Xbox 360.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Fantasy Draft all the way. It's much fairer, though it is incredibly hard to do because we need to fit it in with everyone's free time.

Damn, didn't think of this. Sounds like it would have to be a weekend, but then some people might work on weekends.

Crap. That'll be a tough one to figure out.

[miraisoup]

Could always do 25 game seasons or something too. Might make it easier on everyone involved.

[likwid888]

Damn, didn't think of this. Sounds like it would have to be a weekend, but then some people might work on weekends.

Crap. That'll be a tough one to figure out.

The game isn't out for months, so we technically have until then to get our fantasy draft completed. When the game comes out, we simply create our teams with the players we chose.

[miraisoup]

The game isn't out for months, so we technically have until then to get our fantasy draft completed. When the game comes out, we simply create our teams with the players we chose.

In 12 they have an option to do a Fantasy Draft when you start a GM mode so I wonder if they will put that Fantasy Draft online so we would be able to do it right from the game. That would be excellent.

[secol]

The game isn't out for months, so we technically have until then to get our fantasy draft completed. When the game comes out, we simply create our teams with the players we chose.
true, but we'd have to draft without knowing the ratings of players which can make it hard to build the kind of team you want

[Joborule]

I figure the best way to go about this is to do the fantasy draft once the game comes out. Besides people show interest now, but when it comes to time to get things in motion, some people may not be available anymore and we may have some new faces pop up.

In regards to picking teams. We'll probably have a team draft lottery around the time the game release.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

I figure the best way to go about this is to do the fantasy draft once the game comes out. Besides people show interest now, but when it comes to time to get things in motion, some people may not be available anymore and we may have some new faces pop up.

In regards to picking teams. We'll probably have a team draft lottery around the time the game release.

Sounds good to me. Dibs not the Canucks or Oilers. Can we rig it so the Canucks and Oilers get 29th and 30th picks?

If we're doing a fantasy draft, I just want a team with cool looking jerseys.

[Mitch]

Yeah I don't think we can pick the players before the game comes out, there'll probably be a load of players with different ratings and potential. Sven for example. He'll probably be rated up from a 69 most likely, as well as his potential rating.

[3 Justin 3]

I have a couple points. First, as the game hasn't been released yet none of us know how the fantasy draft will work, whether we can choose the draft order ourselves (I know the game can randomize it, I'm betting we can't choose it how we want it).

Also, for a fantasy draft I think on a Sunday would be best as I know people either work (like myself) or go out (most people) on Saturdays.

As well, I'd rather pick teams than leave it to a lottery, we'll be fantasy drafting anyway so it isn't like the team we're picking will be that relevant. Unless like 5 people want to be the Flames (in that case have a lottery), but I'll let someone else be them. I'll be the Kings, Av's, or Flyers.

If we do want to do a fantasy draft before the game comes out (we won't know their ratings, we'll have to guess essentially), I think that would be easier than doing it when the game comes out as we could do it over a week rather than like 30 people getting together at the same time to do it online. Though, like I mentioned I don't think in the game we'll be able to make our own draft order so either people will have to be honest with their picks or we're screwed.

Lastly, I have a friend who isn't on the forums, but will join the league.

[FlamesKickAss]

what about doing a fantasy draft that is simulated in the game? Seems fair and would save a lot of time

randomize the draft order and then auto select, assuming they have this option

[ComixZone]

what about doing a fantasy draft that is simulated in the game? Seems fair and would save a lot of time

randomize the draft order and then auto select, assuming they have this option

a bit premature, as like you mention we don't know the details. In response to this idea though, I'd say no. Half the fun of GM modes is found in building your own roster. We'd have to do our own fantasy drafts. Building our own rosters from the ground up would be the best way to go about it.

[DropIt]

I would think the best/ easiest way to go about this is to wait until the game comes out and ratings are known, but doing the draft here, where people could be reached much easier and things wont really get held up too much if someone is missing

[FlamesKickAss]

a bit premature, as like you mention we don't know the details. In response to this idea though, I'd say no. Half the fun of GM modes is found in building your own roster. We'd have to do our own fantasy drafts. Building our own rosters from the ground up would be the best way to go about it.

I think in Madden they had a hybrid of this like Yahoo fantasy leagues where you had a certain amount of time on the clock or it gets auto picked. That would probably work better if we can find a time frame when most people can be online, even if its like a 2 day time span or something

[jayocal]

Count me in for PS3.

This could be huge! Please don't screw this up EA.

[Hockey]

Alright I'll join.

360

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Maybe we choose our teams and use the authentic draft order that will be used this offseason? I don't think anyone will want to be the Oilers (so they can have Crosby).

I don't know, this is kind of a tough thing to work out.

Either way, I think we should wait until after the game comes out to do the draft. Until then, maybe we can each choose teams and somehow determine the draft order (or just let the game randomize it and we'll just have to be happy with what draft position we get).

I'll take Tampa Bay or Buffalo - only because I like their jerseys haha (and because OutOfTheCube is playing on the PS3).

[Mitch]

I'll take Ottawa or Columbus

I'd prefer Ottawa though!

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Maybe Joborule could update the OP with each member's desired team. I'll take Buffalo.

[Hockey]

Not sure what most people want here, but if we play each other I will probably get my butt kicked. It won't matter if I have Crosby, Malkin, Burrows, Giroux, Rome and Weber. So I like the idea of simming and that way we have a better idea of which GM builds the better franchise.


Just my 2 cents anyways.

[likwid888]

Perhaps we should draw for order of choosing teams. It's not really fair for others to have someone all of a sudden post and claim a team out of no where.

[secol]

Not sure what most people want here, but if we play each other I will probably get my butt kicked. It won't matter if I have Crosby, Malkin, Burrows, Giroux, Rome and Weber. So I like the idea of simming and that way we have a better idea of which GM builds the better franchise.


Just my 2 cents anyways.
anybody else found it odd rome was mentioned with the other players?:blink:

[Joborule]

Not sure yet and this isn't based on news directly from EA but don't expect simming to be possible for this. It might be similar to the current online league setup for NHL 12 in regards of playing games.

[flamestalker]

Count me in.

[devo22]

if we're already choosing teams - I'll take Dallas ;)

[Stealth22]

Count me in as well, for PS3. :D

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[Joborule]

If we get enough demand (especially since much more may come when game releases) we can try doing multiple leagues of 12 teams. Smaller league would be easier in getting games played and limit the conflicts of gm's wanting a certain team.

[miraisoup]

Don't know if anyone is interested but they are doing a live stream of the community day today at 1 EST. Might have some new info on GM Connected.

http://www.easports.com/nhl/promo/nhl-webcast

[Diverce]

They might add what they did with EASHL where you can make your own team, design your own jerseys and pick from the numerous logos.

[Joborule]

Based on info today looks like we'll be able to combine any type of user in this. If you're not great at the game but want to manage a team that plays on it's own you'll be able to do that.

[Rhettzky]

I like the sim idea and have to honest that I have no idea how any of this works. Let me know when to be around and I'll learn as I go.

A few questions:
How long after release do we have to get the game?
Do we sim/play as the regular season goes? Or do we sim lots of seasons and do drafts between?

[bubbsy]

I'm in on the 360 please.

[miraisoup]

I personally think it would be fun to do a bunch of seasons. Bunch of drafts, build up the prospects. I love doing that in the current Be A GM.

[dobbles]

the other thing to remember is that starting right when the game comes out is often fruitless. because even though the roster updates are never perfect, the first one that adds in all the new players after the nhl season has started is often worth waiting for. personally, thats why i often get into HUT and/or EASHL at the beginning of the year as its not worth it to start GM mode until october and the rosters are better.

[Joborule]

Everything We Know About NHL 13's GM Connected Mode (http://www.gameinformer.com/games/nhl_13/b/xbox360/archive/2012/06/01/everything-we-know-about-nhl-13-39-s-gm-connected-mode.aspx)

Bad news. Unfortunately no fantasy draft. There's an option to randomize players on the teams instead.

[saskflames69]

I own both consoles, but it'll most likely be 360..

[Hockey]

I think it's safe to say that no one will take the Canucks, so I will take them.

[3 Justin 3]

So no fantasy draft eh? EA can go f*** themselves with a rusty screwdriver. What a piece of s*** decision to not put it in the game.

Fantasy drafting is the best part for god sake.

Now some teams will be stacked and some will get the Wild.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

So should we stick with the teams' real rosters or should we randomize?

If we stick with the real rosters, some people could end up with the Blue Jackets or the Wild, which isn't cool.

If we randomize the rosters, some teams could end up with Stamkos, Crosby, Ovechkin, or even... Luongo and Burrows...

I say stick with the real rosters and teams can be on a first-come/first-serve basis. Just my opinion though.

I'll stay with the original team I wanted, the Buffalo Sabres.

[secol]

i wonder if manual draft order is available and whether or not you can start from the 2012 entry draft....if so it would make it not as bad for crappy teams

[Mitch]

I kinda want to do the random team thing. That way you don't know if your going to be a cup contender, or a rebuilding team. When I play on NHL 12 I usually do fantasy draft and randomize it so I get a random team. My opinion. I will stick with the senators though.

[Hockey]

I don't mind if we randomize or do current rosters. I think it be cool if one of us got the Jackets or some other crap team and made them into a contender in a few years.

Also if we do current teams I think it would only be fair if we did some sort of draw to pick teams.

[FlamesKickAss]

Randomize

[HellFire]

I would like to join. I am on the xbox360

[Iniggywetrust]

I'm down on PS3. Not sure which teams are left but I would like the Canadiens, Jets, Panthers, or Flames ( i'm sure it's taken but I'll throw it out there as my first choice)

[king_amonte]

I'm in for PS3

[Joborule]

FYI we have 31 interested users in total thus far. 14 for 360, and 17 for PS3.

[zukes]

PS3. I will give this a go.

[Fransken]

I would be glad to join on PS3 and I vote for multiple seasons with randomized rosters, that way everyone will have a chance to build their team as they want by drafts and trades. And if the Chicago Blackhawks are avalible I would be happy to represent them, otherwise Winnipeg and Colorado would also be great!

[Baxter Renegade]

I see this hasn't been updated in a bit, but if there's room on PS3 still, Im in.

EDIT: If you would have checked one post higher, I would have seen the true count... Im in at #20 on PS3!!!

[Russic]

I totally lost this thread and couldn't find it somehow. My only concern with randomizing the teams is that if somebody is maybe/kinda/sorta interested gets the BJ's he suddenly isn't motivated to play his games. I've talked with a friend who does this in Madden, and while it's awesome he says leagues with too many people can be a clusterF if there's even a few people who aren't totally in.

If we have about 20 teams in a league, you can pretty much eliminate the worst of the worst teams and be left with mostly the playoff teams. If I was supreme dictator I'd run it the same as the reality tv drafts... everybody gets tossed into a hat and Jobo picks a draft order. Maybe those who recognize themselves as better players don't aim for the crazy stacked teams (but that's totally optional).

[Fransken]

But if we also randomized the rosters the only concern would be wheter you like the team name and jersey or not. And if we, when appropriate, make two different threads for PS3 and the 360 where we confirm our interest of joining and perhaps write 5 franchises we could represent and then see how that works out?

[Gary83]

I'd definitely be in for the 360.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

I really like Russic's idea.

[secol]

but if we also randomized the rosters the only concern would be wheter you like the team name and jersey or not. And if we, when appropriate, make two different threads for ps3 and the 360 where we confirm our interest of joining and perhaps write 5 franchises we could represent and then see how that works out?
+1

[Jayems]

I'm in, 360.

And I vote to randomize team rosters.

[keenan87]

I am in for PS3

I will like to take the Islanders as my team if open

[Diemenz]

Sure I'll give this a shot, Put me down for PS3 Joseph.

If we do a random team thing I think more users are bound to join, cause come on seriously how many people want pitts or philly?

Also I don't know how to actually play the game so I will probably just GM all my games if that's cool.

Im all about jerseys so teams I like regardless of random drafts or regular rosters in order are Detroit, Chicago, St Louis, LA, New Jersey, Philly, Tampa. Put me down for whatev.

[northcrunk]

I'm interested for xbox 360. xbox i.d - ghanker

[Conman57]

I'm really interested in this. If you guys can fit me in I'd be pretty flexible with my play times. My username is Conman657 on the PS3. I think that we should do randomized rosters if you want my opinion on it. Teams that I would prefer are in order: Leafs, Penguins, Kings, Canucks, Capitals and Flyers but if none are available I'll take any team. I think this could be a really great thing if we do it right. Thanks for your consideration.

[Hades]

I'd like to play for 360, I think I'd prefer real teams but don't really care either way.

[Conman57]

This thread almost completely died, what happened? Is there a new thread? Just wondering, thanks!

[Mitch]

This thread almost completely died, what happened? Is there a new thread? Just wondering, thanks!

Just waiting for NHL 13 to come out.

[Joborule]

Ya stuff won't truly get in motion until a couple weeks prior to release.

[Hockey]

Yep, im still interested for sure in this, just no need to really be talking about it until a few weeks prior to release date.

[kobasew19]

I'm in. 360! Gamertag is eddieng. NHL 13 and the new NHL season (cross fingers) can't come soon enough!

[FlyingDonutz]

I'd love to do it. My gamertag is FlyinDonutz. Xbox, of course.

[FlyingDonutz]

Before I go into the news on GM connected id like to say a few things.

I'd like to either GM or Coach the Flames, Blues, Preds, Jets, Devils, Avs, or Habs, in that order of importance.. but that's only if it's available.


Okay, news just in on GM Connected.

(Ugh, I can code and script 3 languages but idk how to embed)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_137453&feature=iv&src_vid=ehWd1RfqTYI&v=jAgK_CTLfjg

This could be really, really, fricken awesome.

To run it down.

-Up to 750 players a league.

-Play multiple ways. Each team can have a GM, coach, etc. You can play as any of the 6 players on the ice.

-An app. You can, as long as you're on iOS (Apple products... >:O I'm on Android.. gonna buy an iPod just for this :S) , manage your team directly from your mobile product. Trades, line setups, etc, all manageable from your apple product.

- Customizable AI. So lets say I'm the GM/Coach of the Flames. And another poster is the GM of the Oil. And we've got a match scheduled.. but I've got a funeral, baby shower, wedding, and a graduation all on the same day, so I'm booked. So I can go in, edit my lines, and how I want them to play. So I can make Line 1 play dump and chase, crash the net, behind the net, etc... and set up specific plays. So you can customize every single tidbit of the AI.

And.. there's a lot more. Watch the interview !

[theClassic09]

I'd definitely be in for PS3.

Any Canadian team, Flyers or Kings.

PSN: xIginla93x

[RedMile34]

Hey guys, I would be very interested in getting in for the PS3, my playstation ID is RedMile34, can't wait for September!

[emti]

if 360 still has open slots id love to join

[FlyingDonutz]

After much consideration, randomizing rosters or even making a fantasy draft at the start of the season would be excellent.

[Mitch]

After much consideration, randomizing rosters or even making a fantasy draft at the start of the season would be excellent.

Fantasy draft was taken out on online GM mode. Randomizing rosters is probably the best option.

[miraisoup]

http://www.easports.com/nhl/news/article/gm-connected-revealed

Big write up on Gm Connected. Really enjoyed this.

GM Brain - The NHL franchise’s Smartest GM/Trade Logic Ever

Both GM Connected and Be A GM also benefit from this year’s addition of GM Brain, a revamp of the NHL 13 GM AI. GM Brain causes the computer controlled GMs to act in a more realistic way than ever before. Instead of focusing just on immediate needs, GM Brain allows the AI to evaluate trades and transactions in terms of immediate, short-term and long-term goals that are best for the organization.

Stay tuned, we’ll be talking more about GM Brain in a future blog.

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[FlamesFanStrandedInEDM]

I'm in. PS3

[Hades]

The GM connected looks pretty intense. Everything they've advertised looks amazing so far, I really like the idea of having the app so you can still control your team if you're not able to play all the time. Randomized teams does seem to be the most fair way to go about it. Really hoping we can get a good group for 360, I know in the past the EASHL xbox team kinda fell apart, hopefully this one works out!

Also not that it's a huge deal since the game is still months away, but Joborule are you able to update the 360 list? I think its a few pages out of date.

[FlyingDonutz]

Fantasy draft was taken out on online GM mode. Randomizing rosters is probably the best option.

Yup, probably the best way to go. The maple leafs and oil are the only two i wouldn't want

[Conman57]

Here is a link to a thread where many questions about GM Connected are answered of anyone is interested, lots of information.

http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/60/8849625.page

Also I was wondering if the league would have any rules about play style (Glitch goals allowed/not allowed, no cheap tactics or realistic play only). If so, how would we report someone of using glitch goals, etc. Thanks.

[Mitch]

Just curious, who is going to be the commissioner for the 360 and PS3 leagues? From my understanding the commissioner has to approve all trades and free agent signings, basically has to be pretty devoted.

[FlyingDonutz]

Just curious, who is going to be the commissioner for the 360 and PS3 leagues? From my understanding the commissioner has to approve all trades and free agent signings, basically has to be pretty devoted.

I would offer to do that. I probably have literally a month of game time on nhl 12 and i plan to have a crapload more on nhl13.

[bspec]

Looking for a good league with good players, count me in for the PS3 league. Pretty pumped for this.

PSN: bspec8

[FlyingDonutz]

Well he's been online recently and not updated this since the beginning of June.. if it's not updated by 2 months (Aug 09) I might make a new thread, but this time an official thread, not just an interest thread.

[bspec]

Well he's been online recently and not updated this since the beginning of June.. if it's not updated by 2 months (Aug 09) I might make a new thread, but this time an official thread, not just an interest thread.

Good idea, at least this way we get an idea of the kind of numbers to expect. Looking forward to it.

[FlyingDonutz]

Good idea, at least this way we get an idea of the kind of numbers to expect. Looking forward to it.

Screw it, I'll make it now.

[likwid888]

Screw it, I'll make it now.

Settle down. Give Jobo a chance to get this thing going. He's an EA GameChanger and has done a great job running the PS3 NHL league.

[FlyingDonutz]

Settle down. Give Jobo a chance to get this thing going. He's an EA GameChanger and has done a great job running the PS3 NHL league.

It's been two months. Literally, nearly 2 months.

This is an updated list. I'm planning on making the thread on the 9th if this one isn't updated..

Xbox 360 (21):
Gary83
emti
Hades
kobasew19
Jayems
FlyingDonutz
Ashasx
FlamesKickAss
devo22
nickerjones
Pierre "Monster" McGuire
3 Justin 3
Mitch
La Flames Fan
miraisoup
dissentowner
Hockey
bubbsy
saskflames96
HellFire
Northcrunk

PS3 (29):
FlamesFanStrandedinEDM
bspec
zukes
theClassic09
RedMile34
Conman57
keenan87
Diemenz
Franksen
Baxter Renegade
Joborule
secol
mpaca
Russic
DropIt
likwid888
Rhettzky
silentsim
OutOfTheCube
Red John
Flash Walken
Pacem
ComixZone
kunkstyle
jayocal
flamestalker
Stealth22
Iniggywetrust
king_amonte

[Joborule]

I'm still around and checking this daily. I'll get around to updating the list.

The official thread I think will be best to be made in late August. Therefore we don't have too long of a period of waiting for the game to come out and finally start playing.

I'm also thinking the best way to do this is with randomized rosters. Since each team will have different rosters, team selection preference isn't that important. Therefore we can have a team selection draft done a couple weeks prior to game release.

[FlyingDonutz]

I'm still around and checking this daily. I'll get around to updating the list.

The official thread I think will be best to be made in late August. Therefore we don't have too long of a period of waiting for the game to come out and finally start playing.

I'm also thinking the best way to do this is with randomized rosters. Since each team will have different rosters, team selection preference isn't that important. Therefore we can have a team selection draft done a couple weeks prior to game release.

That's sorta what I had in mind. Maybe I'll make the 360 one, if you aren't already doing that. I made an updated list, and posted it.

I've got too much time on my hands so I could act as the commissioner for the 360 league if that's open.

[Joborule]

I'll be on the PS3 side so you can be commish for the 360 league.

[FlyingDonutz]

I'll be on the PS3 side so you can be commish for the 360 league.

Sounds good.

[Fransken]

I got two buddies of mine who would like to join in on PS3. They are willing to create their own accounts here so they can keep track of what's happening in the league and so on.

[3 Justin 3]

My two friends (one is on this site) want in on the 360 league.

Looks like all we have to do is pick which team we want since we will be randomizing rosters (still hate the fact there is no fantasy draft, but now with 30 people it would be super hard).

Also, I want Av's or Philly.

[Glorious #1]

Count me in for the PS3 league.

PSN: SparkOfMadness

Id prefer to play as the Preds. ( Well Flames would of coarse be my first choice but....duh)

[expo2428]

I would like to be on the ps3 league if I could.

[Conman57]

We've surpassed the limit for GMs for the PS3 league. You'll have to talk to Jobo or maybe you can play on a team as a coach/player.

[Joborule]

We've surpassed the limit for GMs for the PS3 league. You'll have to talk to Jobo or maybe you can play on a team as a coach/player.

Or we may split into two league and divide up the users if commitment count closer to release is above limit.

[FlyingDonutz]

Or we may split into two league and divide up the users if commitment count closer to release is above limit.

Not sure, but can we make the leagues so that there is only 15-20 teams? Because that way, by the looks of things, there may only be 40 people for the xbox league so when I set up the league on the 11th and if we're splitting them, would we have 30 in one league, and then 10 in another with 20 AI controlled teams, or could you just have 20 teams in 2 leagues?

[Conman57]

I'm almost certain that you have to have 30 teams per league. :(

[Joborule]

Not sure, but can we make the leagues so that there is only 15-20 teams? Because that way, by the looks of things, there may only be 40 people for the xbox league so when I set up the league on the 11th and if we're splitting them, would we have 30 in one league, and then 10 in another with 20 AI controlled teams, or could you just have 20 teams in 2 leagues?
Think it would be preferred to make it a even split so competition is relatively the same, and don't risk inactivity in a league because there's not enough human interaction.

I'm almost certain that you have to have 30 teams per league. :(

Not all teams have to be user controlled.

[FlyingDonutz]

Think it would be preferred to make it a even split so competition is relatively the same, and don't risk inactivity in a league because there's not enough human interaction.



Not all teams have to be user controlled.


Yeah, that's probably the best way to go. Inactivity isn't good.

And as a commish, we have to validate all activity team-to-team wise. Would we just do this randomly, as we see fit, or would there be specific days where the trades and such would be accepted? I mean, I can do it every day, easily.

Oh, and on the iOS app, does the commish have every option that we'd have on the xbox, like validation of trades, and other things.. Because, if it's available on the iPod, I plan to buy one, so I can manage my team on the go, while I'm away (which isn't often, but still, Id like to be committed 24/7).

[bspec]

Oh, and on the iOS app, does the commish have every option that we'd have on the xbox, like validation of trades, and other things.. Because, if it's available on the iPod, I plan to buy one, so I can manage my team on the go, while I'm away (which isn't often, but still, Id like to be committed 24/7).

I believe everyone using the iOS app is limited to what has been listed on the site:

Created specifically for GM Connected is the GM Connected Mobile App which will allow gamers to take the league with them when they leave their consoles. The app will allow them to:

· View: Team Standings, Player Stats, Schedule, Injury Report, Transactions

· Trade: Offer trades to other teams,

· Free Agents: Make offers to free agents

· Post: GMs can send messages to the Commissioner, other GMs or his team

Could be wrong, but GM's don't have any extra privileges in the iOS app. Perhaps this will change in a future update though. It would be great to eventually be able to change your line-up and strategies from your iPhone or iPod.

[3 Justin 3]

Yeah, that's probably the best way to go. Inactivity isn't good.

And as a commish, we have to validate all activity team-to-team wise. Would we just do this randomly, as we see fit, or would there be specific days where the trades and such would be accepted? I mean, I can do it every day, easily.

Oh, and on the iOS app, does the commish have every option that we'd have on the xbox, like validation of trades, and other things.. Because, if it's available on the iPod, I plan to buy one, so I can manage my team on the go, while I'm away (which isn't often, but still, Id like to be committed 24/7).

iPod? Unless you're buying an iPhone an iPod won't be sufficient as iPods don't have 3G, just WiFi (the touches anyway).

[bax]

I want to play, PS3 league.

PSN: scroungedouglas

[cznTiburon]

I am down. 360

[FlyingDonutz]

iPod? Unless you're buying an iPhone an iPod won't be sufficient as iPods don't have 3G, just WiFi (the touches anyway).

Meh. I'm an android guy, and dont intend to lay down 500 bucks to use this app. 200, sure, especially because I already need an ipod.

[Russic]

I'd like to apologize in advance for having a similar PS3 tag as Redmile34. We used to be roommates, he had a 360 with the tag Redmile and I stole it when I bought myself a PS3. Like a fool I expected his 360 to not implode and RROD on him, forcing him to the Sony side.

Even if we do random rosters I'd like to see a random draw and draft a team. It might get too complicated if we have people throwing in their preferences for which team they want.

[likwid888]

I'd like to apologize in advance for having a similar PS3 tag as Redmile34. We used to be roommates, he had a 360 with the tag Redmile and I stole it when I bought myself a PS3. Like a fool I expected his 360 to not implode and RROD on him, forcing him to the Sony side.

Even if we do random rosters I'd like to see a random draw and draft a team. It might get too complicated if we have people throwing in their preferences for which team they want.

Agreed. It would be great if people stopped posting teams that they'd like to play as. If we are doing totally random rosters, then it really shouldn't matter what team you play as. All this does is complicate things further.

[Joborule]

Plus doing a team draft would take time and efficient coordination.

[FlyingDonutz]

Plus doing a team draft would take time and efficient coordination.

Well if they don't show the AI would do it.. though A fantasy draft would be cool

[Joborule]

Well if they don't show the AI would do it.. though A fantasy draft would be cool

Not a fantasy draft. Team selection draft.

[FlyingDonutz]

Not a fantasy draft. Team selection draft.

Same thing, no? I mean the same, if that's the case.

[foofighter15]

Ill throw my name in 360. Gamertag is the same as my name here.

[bspec]

Same thing, no? I mean the same, if that's the case.

I think Jobo was talking about a draft for selecting the teams, not the players on them. It's easier to just randomize them for everyone. Random team, random players, done deal.

[FlyingDonutz]

I think Jobo was talking about a draft for selecting the teams, not the players on them. It's easier to just randomize them for everyone. Random team, random players, done deal.

Ah. Randomizing it is easier. I mean, I wouldn't have a problem with setting up a lottery or something for the people to pick, I got time to set that up.

[bspec]

Ah. Randomizing it is easier. I mean, I wouldn't have a problem with setting up a lottery or something for the people to pick, I got time to set that up.

FlyingDonutz you seem to have just an infinite amount of time to fill with NHL, I think a few of us would be jealous. A lottery sort of deal would be interesting, that way at least a few of us would get the team we want. Who wants to get stuck with the Oilers jersey representing their team right?

[FlamesFan86]

I would like to join Xbox 360.. gamertag: SnitZ86

[Fransken]

As a matter of fact, one of my friends would be thrilled to represent the coilers!

I also like the idea of a lottery draft, especially if we divide into two separate PS3 leagues. That would give the last person to draft (provided that we are 20 players in each league) 11 different teams to choose from and c'mon, you can't despise one-third of the league.

[FlyingDonutz]

FlyingDonutz you seem to have just an infinite amount of time to fill with NHL, I think a few of us would be jealous. A lottery sort of deal would be interesting, that way at least a few of us would get the team we want. Who wants to get stuck with the Oilers jersey representing their team right?

Hah. Yeah, especially in the summer, I've almost got too much time on my hands. I just want to make sure I do a better job than Bettman.... even though this job is a lot more limited than his :p

[3 Justin 3]

I think we're almost at the limit, but two of my friends are definitely in. One of them is on CP (theinfinitejar), the other isn't, but he plays more than half the people on CP.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

I'm still in for the 360, just forgot to read the thread.

So basically we're doing a random pick of teams we'd like with randomly shuffled rosters. I don't mind that at all.

Also, I think I still have some of you on my friends list on Xbox from the CP EASHL team.

[FlyingDonutz]

There really isnt a limit, as long as we make two leagues... Unless we fill up 60 a console.. damn, that would be hard for us to manage. But I'll do it ;p

[Mitch]

My xbox 360 name is heyITSMEmitch if any of you want to add me ahead of time. Just message me saying your from CP.

[Lego Man]

So no fantasy draft eh? EA can go f*** themselves with a rusty screwdriver. What a piece of s*** decision to not put it in the game.

Fantasy drafting is the best part for god sake.

Now some teams will be stacked and some will get the Wild.

What's wrong with Suter and Parise?!

jk

[Fransken]

I was thinking about the different release dates earlier today, the game is released on September 11 in the US, and September 13 in Europe.

I'm guessing many here is as stoked as I am and my question is, how do we solve this problem? Because me and my friends still want to join in even if we live in Sweden and I'm guessing the first (couple) of seasons will be finished rather quickly. Maybe if we get enough players we can divide into two different PS3-leagues with one starting on September 11 and one on September 13 and the one starting on September 13 will contain all the players from Europe and all the other ones who are willing to join in. That way it will also be easier to go head-to-head with other players considering the time differences.

[FlyingDonutz]

I was thinking about the different release dates earlier today, the game is released on September 11 in the US, and September 13 in Europe.

I'm guessing many here is as stoked as I am and my question is, how do we solve this problem? Because me and my friends still want to join in even if we live in Sweden and I'm guessing the first (couple) of seasons will be finished rather quickly. Maybe if we get enough players we can divide into two different PS3-leagues with one starting on September 11 and one on September 13 and the one starting on September 13 will contain all the players from Europe and all the other ones who are willing to join in. That way it will also be easier to go head-to-head with other players considering the time differences.

The only problem with that is I wouldn't be so sure there would be many people from Europe in the game. I understand the time differences point, though. I think we should just start the league on the 13th, actually, so players can get acclimated to the new functions in the game. I guess that's what the demo's for, though.

I guess we'll have to figure that out, I was planning on setting up the 360 league on the 11th around 4 or 5 EST, but it would be much better to start it a few days later so players can all get the game and whatnot, considering people might not be as hardcore as me and pre-order the collectors edition in May.

[secol]

it also wouldn't be time difference that would be an issue....there might be lag for both sides.

also don't quite remember if this issue was resolved, but are we simming or playing all the games? if we play all the games i think it might be way too similar to HUT, simming however would be interesting and much faster

[Fransken]

As of now we are 35 people who have signed up for PS3 (including my friends) so it seems like, as discussed earlier, that we are close of having two leagues with at least 20 players each and then maybe it isn't such a long shot of having the two leagues starting at different dates.

Everyone who reads this post and is open to the idea of having one, of the supposed leagues, starting on September 13 and are willing to join for whatever reasons like Flying said before, can raise a hand so we can see if this is a possibility.

[3 Justin 3]

For the record, my one friend from CP is theinfinitejar who wants in, the other just put JaromeIginla (his xbox GT).

What is the count for people on the 360 league now? 26ish?

Also, rather than randomizing which team we are, why not just pick them ourselves since the teams will be random.

For instance, I'd like to be the Flyers or Avs.

[Joborule]

For the record, my one friend from CP is theinfinitejar who wants in, the other just put JaromeIginla (his xbox GT).

What is the count for people on the 360 league now? 26ish?

Also, rather than randomizing which team we are, why not just pick them ourselves since the teams will be random.

For instance, I'd like to be the Flyers or Avs.

If they want to sign up for the league have them post in this thread, and the official one when we get the process rolling. It's important each person gives appropriate attention and dedication to this, so taking it upon themselves to enroll would show good faith.

If we have people picking teams, many are going to want to pick teams others want. Many would want Flames, then when someone gets that move on to Flyers, or Bruins, Kings, etc. Team logo and uniforms isn't important here so I figure we could simplify and speed up things by just going with the team a random generator selects for us.

[FlyingDonutz]

I think Randomization is the best way to go. I don't want arguing over teams. Though maybe as mentioned before we could do a team selection draft. But it's between those two, I think, as any others could cause issues.

[FlamesKickAss]

a team selection draft would take not even a day. just randomize all the names and then go down the list and let people pick.

[emti]

Doesnt really matter a whole lot to me but I think a team selection draft would be nice, that way we get some say in that matter

[FlyingDonutz]

Okay well there's a couple issues I want to address.

Time Zone issue: There may be a few players that live in the Scandinavian regions and other European countries, and as we know they have much different time than us. Now one player suggested we make a separate league for them. As much as this would work if we had say 15-20 people living over in Europe, we don't, I don't think. My guess is the most of us are Canadian and American, if not mostly Canadian. I might be ignorant to this topic, but that's just my guess based on observations. Anyways, there's a few things we could do here.

The players in question are from Sweden. It is now approaching 5:00 in Stockholm. I am in the Eastern Time Zone, and It's now coming onto 11 AM. A 6 hour difference isn't hard to work around for me, but I know lots of the members here actually live in Calgary, and even harder to work around, farther west into a 3 hour time distance from the EST. So basically, you guys are 9 hours away from the Swedish players. Now there's a few things I'd like to suggest we do here.

I don't think it'd be that much a problem for the European players to stay up a bit later on even just weekends to play their games, all others could be simmed. If they can stay up later, that would be great. But if you're living in the Pacific Time Zone you're 9 hours difference, so what we'd need to organize is for you to be up to play around Noon. For workers, this could be somewhat of an issue. So if you're 9 hours difference, maybe players in the PST could either play their games around 12 AM and you could get up real damn early, or, vice-versa, they get up real damn early and you play at a decent time.

What I'd like for people to do is inform us of when you can play. I know lots of people work, and have school, and it'd be nice to fit everyone in with being able to play, and such. So just let us know so maybe we could figure something out.

Team Selection: I, being the very... free-time person I am, would have no issue setting up a lottery and make a team selection draft somewhere on the internet (unless its a feature in the game, haven't heard much and I keep right up to date with this game) . It seems that people here prefer that option, and I prefer the option of keeping people happy, so I say we could do it. But how we'd base the lottery is sort of the issue, I mean we don't have standings here or anything. I guess we could base it on who asked first.

Then again, we could randomize them, and if you get the Oil or the Leafs, deal with it! Unless you like either of them (how?) , then congrats!

I like either, and I can do either, but I'll leave it up to Joborule.

Player Selection: It's a bad day when EA makes an online league feature, with no Fantasy Draft. So it's a bad day. So I guess we'll just have to randomize the rosters. Because I know for a fact that if we didn't, and I was first, I would pick Pittsburgh. Yeah, I hate them, but I know Malkin and Crosby will both probably be at least 93's, if not 94's. I'd trade Fleury for Kipper and Malkin for Iggy and I'd be good. Then there'd be Minnesota.

So I say Randomize the rosters, and if there is a way to draft the teams, whether it means doing a draft on the internet and I'll just build the rosters how they're drafted, do that, because that's probably the most pleasing way of doing it.

Asides from that, I think everything else should figure itself out.

[secol]

again....sim league or play all games? if we play all the game VS style then i don't see how it's that different from HUT......

[likwid888]

again....sim league or play all games? if we play all the game VS style then i don't see how it's that different from HUT......

I'd prefer to sim. Makes the game more focused on your GM skills and how you coach/manage your team rather than playing VS and scoring glitch goals.

[Hockey]

I agree that we should sim the games. I could have Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos and Giroux on my team, but since I'm not good at the game I would probably end up losing most games.

[Joborule]

Well it's important we figure out who wants to be part of a sim leauge, and who wants to be part of a league that plays. Or a hybrid of both if there's enough demand.

Me personally would prefer to actually play games. I may not be able to play each one of them, but I would like to have the ability to.

[ComixZone]

Well it's important we figure out who wants to be part of a sim leauge, and who wants to be part of a league that plays. Or a hybrid of both if there's enough demand.

Me personally would prefer to actually play games. I may not be able to play each one of them, but I would like to have the ability to.

Ditto.

[FlamesFan86]

I would prefer to play the games as well.

[miraisoup]

I honestly don't care either way. Ill play or sim.

[FlyingDonutz]

Well it's important we figure out who wants to be part of a sim leauge, and who wants to be part of a league that plays. Or a hybrid of both if there's enough demand.

Me personally would prefer to actually play games. I may not be able to play each one of them, but I would like to have the ability to.

I like that idea. A sim league sounds great, IMO. But the thing is I doubt we'd be able to schedule 82 games so that everyone can be there to play their opponent . I guess you could just play against the AI that they made...

[Fransken]

First I would like to reply to your post were you adressed the different problems Flying. I don't know if I made my point clear, but I didn't intend that one of the leagues should be a european league. My general point was that one league could be started on September 11 and one on September 13 if it was enough North American that could imagine themselves to start two days later with addition of the few Europeans around here.

About the team selection I, on one hand, think that it shouldn't be too much of a problem to organize a team draft as the game is over a month away. But on the other hand I don't think that it should be a problem even if you got the Oilers since the team is randomized. And there is also my opinion if we should randomize the rosters or not.

And correct me if I'm wrong but if i recall it right I saw in one of the videos that the commisioner could choose how long you got to play all your matches (5v5, head-to-head, simulate, be a coach or play against the AI) with a time spectra from 3 days up to 2 weeks and if everyone was ready he could start the next season immediately. If it is that way, I don't think we have do decide however it should be simulate only or not because then you could play some matches against your friends, maybe coach some and simulate when you get tired or if you have like 1 hour to the deadline. Because I think it's a bit harsh to demand everyone to complete their seasons in less than 3 days.

[FlamesKickAss]

yeah not interested in being in a sim league. I buy NHL to play not to be a GM......

[Fire]

I'm in, for Xbox360.

[Mitch]

Does that not take out the point of an NHL GM mode? One could suck at playing but have an amazing team and still lose. While one person could be amazing at playing but have a terrible team and still win.

I'd like a sim league. I can play other game modes to actually control players.

[secol]

Does that not take out the point of an NHL GM mode? One could suck at playing but have an amazing team and still lose. While one person could be amazing at playing but have a terrible team and still win.

I'd like a sim league. I can play other game modes to actually control players.
that's why i mentioned HUT and i guess this also includes the online leagues as well......also i'm not saying the euros should be split, but if we adopt playing games, then that would be an issue because of lag/time difference

my preference would be to sim. would be faster, unlike any other game modes by a long shot and really gives you a chance to build your team (hopefully they let you draft, etc)

[Conman57]

I definitely think we should play most if not all of our games (I understand if you're away or if you have a big time difference though). Those who have/are going to practice and put time into the game will be rewarded. The game is about gameplay, right? Why shouldn't we play the game... Maybe we could have a league for people wanting to sim and a different league for people who want to play (If there's enough for that). I think a 2 day wait untill we start the league is good. If people start using cheap tactics or glitch goals we could post a video on the thread and maybe the commish could take disipilanary action.

One thing that I don't think we've discussed is the rules for who can play. If you have a buddy at your house it's cool if he wants to play with you for one of your GM games (provided that is isn't a playoff game or a game right before the playoffs) but I don't think that a GM should be allowed to recruit other players online when he needs to play a game. It wouldn't be showing the skill of the GM, it would be showing the skill of the best players he could convince to play his games for him (which doesn't really seem fair). I also think that the 1v1 play would add a more personal level to the games as you could actually talk to the other GM's. It would add to the trading aspect as you would know which GM's you like and such (like with the computer GM's in BAGM, you can be friendly relationship, neutral, etc.) making a more realistic game and league.

I'd also like to thank Joborules and FlyingDonutz for taking such a big role in putting this together. It's a lot of work, good job guys!

[likwid888]

GM mode is about managing a team. I understand people want to play their games, but there are many modes in NHL13 for that.

I'm fine with doing a hybrid if the CPU controlled teams aren't set on a weak difficulty. It really defeats the purpose if those who don't want to play their games are at a major disadvantage.

[Diemenz]

I definitely think we should play most if not all of our games (I understand if you're away or if you have a big time difference though). Those who have/are going to practice and put time into the game will be rewarded. The game is about gameplay, right? Why shouldn't we play the game... Maybe we could have a league for people wanting to sim and a different league for people who want to play (If there's enough for that). I think a 2 day wait untill we start the league is good. If people start using cheap tactics or glitch goals we could post a video on the thread and maybe the commish could take disipilanary action.

One thing that I don't think we've discussed is the rules for who can play. If you have a buddy at your house it's cool if he wants to play with you for one of your GM games (provided that is isn't a playoff game or a game right before the playoffs) but I don't think that a GM should be allowed to recruit other players online when he needs to play a game. It wouldn't be showing the skill of the GM, it would be showing the skill of the best players he could convince to play his games for him (which doesn't really seem fair). I also think that the 1v1 play would add a more personal level to the games as you could actually talk to the other GM's. It would add to the trading aspect as you would know which GM's you like and such (like with the computer GM's in BAGM, you can be friendly relationship, neutral, etc.) making a more realistic game and league.

I'd also like to thank Joborules and FlyingDonutz for taking such a big role in putting this together. It's a lot of work, good job guys!


I disagree with almost everything in this post.

1. It's a gm league, people should GM not play that's what hut is for.
2. If a short side wrister works guess what? 95% of people will do it.
3. So a buddy can a play a game but people can't recruit? Is someone gonna hide in the bushes outside of people's houses to make sure?
4. Playing the game drastically changes the outcome. Several of us play at different levels, how excited do you think people will be when they are 0-22.
5. Playing a game takes 30 min +. Sims are less then 5 min. Trust me, these leagues are super busy for 2-3 weeks then it's all crickets. 5 minutes will give instant gratification and keep people interested longer.

[secol]

exactly diemenz.....HUT, league and all kinds of OTP/VS online allow you to play 1 V 1.......unless you have a human G, it is difficult to point out what is a glitch and what isn't (high % shot VS glitch). as mentioned, examples in this year's games: short side wristers coming out of the corner. glitch or valid strategy? skating backwards? drag wristers? toe drag "qc" wrister? one hand deke then quickly back to forehand? shootout/penalty shot turnaround/spin shot? dive glitch (pretty obvious)? hip checks? deke where you can beat the CPU 90% of the time (bait into CPU then deke away)?

just trying to show you that while there are obvious glitches, there are lots of grey things that are too interpretive.....

[FlyingDonutz]

Well, I'd like to play some games, but sim others. I believe we can choose to sim, too. I sim most of my games in my be a GM and I've got a 53-21-3 record, with Salary cap. I've lost I think 1 or 2 games against the CPU while actually playing, and that's on Allstar/Superstar difficulty (I change it up, usually AllStar though).

The thing is the skill level. Not to brag, but I am pretty good at the games. I wouldn't want to ruin someones great hockey mind with my video game skill.

I would like to sim most games, especially with the new build your AI feature. Play maybe 20 games, if we're doing the full 82.

I think randomizing rosters isn't a bad idea, however I'd still be willing to set up the lottery.

Oh and, if we split up the leagues on 360 and PS3, a team selection draft isn't a bad thing because then you won't be forced to play as a team you specifically hate, unless you hate lots of teams (like me).

[Mitch]

Well, I'd like to play some games, but sim others. I believe we can choose to sim, too. I sim most of my games in my be a GM and I've got a 53-21-3 record, with Salary cap. I've lost I think 1 or 2 games against the CPU while actually playing, and that's on Allstar/Superstar difficulty (I change it up, usually AllStar though).

The thing is the skill level. Not to brag, but I am pretty good at the games. I wouldn't want to ruin someones great hockey mind with my video game skill.

I would like to sim most games, especially with the new build your AI feature. Play maybe 20 games, if we're doing the full 82.

I think randomizing rosters isn't a bad idea, however I'd still be willing to set up the lottery.

Oh and, if we split up the leagues on 360 and PS3, a team selection draft isn't a bad thing because then you won't be forced to play as a team you specifically hate, unless you hate lots of teams (like me).

I'm sorry, but I'd rather just not do play games at all. It is too much of a hassle with the different time zones, obviously the difference in skill levels, etc.

The league will die off if we play games. I'm almost certain. Playing in GM mode just seems stupid to me. And I'm not even bad at playing.

[FlyingDonutz]

I'm sorry, but I'd rather just not do play games at all. It is too much of a hassle with the different time zones, obviously the difference in skill levels, etc.

The league will die off if we play games. I'm almost certain. Playing in GM mode just seems stupid to me. And I'm not even bad at playing.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I don't even think you'd have to play a game if you didn't want to, but it can be scheduled for two teams to play if they want to.

[Conman57]

Didn't mean to piss anyone off here, they were just suggestions, no need to get mad. Here's my response to your post demienz, please don't think anything in this is meant to be offensive, just suggestions.

1: Yes it's a GM league but as I said in my earlier post we could have different leagues for people wanting to sim and people wanting to play. In my opinion playing your games would make for a much deeper level of immersion/enjoyment. You could still coach your games if you were 100% against playing and you would have a big effect on the game's outcome.

2: I was responding to the posts about people wanting to sim because they didn't want cheap tactics/glitch goals. It's the commish's choice wether there should be glitch goals, etc. but I suggested this knowing that many people prefer a more realistic NHL game, making them not like online play.

3: Not sure that you understood me here, re-reading the GM Connected blog/watching the video on the NHL game site might help you understand more.

4: I doubt anyone would go 0-22, online games are very odd (some nights you have a super hot goalie, etc.). If someone was a good GM they would have a good enough team to be a big threat, regardless of their playing level. As I said, if someone is new they can practice as it's not that hard to get good at these games. This is a good point though...

5: Once again read the NHL blog, the commish has a lot of power in the league. They set how long games are, how long ticks are and more. If players complained how the games were taking too long I'm sure that the commish would change settings accordingly.

Secol: You make a good point there. I was trying to say that people usually hate playing online because of the cross crease and more common glitch tactics. There are a lot of OP tactics but it would be have to be decided how realistic the players in the league wanted to play: anything goes, no cross crease, no glitches, super realistic, etc.

Thanks for posting guys, discussion is good to help see what we want the league to be like.

[Conman57]

What about a system where you sim most of the reg. season then play for the playoff push and the playoffs? We also might to be able to start a sim league and a playing league for each console so everyone's happy..?

[Joborule]

Different leagues most likely gonna have to be done here. One purely for siming/GM duties, and another for those that want to also play the games. I understand that the varying skill levels makes the second option un-ideal for many.

[Diemenz]

Different leagues most likely gonna have to be done here. One purely for siming/GM duties, and another for those that want to also play the games. I understand that the varying skill levels makes the second option un-ideal for many.

This is 100%.

The variations are too wide.

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Conman I for one think cross crease is so far from being a glitch it's not even entertained as one. You on the other hand think it is. Nothing wrong with that it just shows the wide gap that will be created.

There are several people posting in this thread that are 5000 games deep in online play and I can guarantee you those players will run circles against those who have played be a pro the last few years. It will be real fun for them enjoying the cake walk but for those losing 10-0 again and again the league will get old and all that will be left is 5-6 thumb warriors.

If you want realistic you need to lace up some skates because videogame hockey will never be the.

[FlyingDonutz]

I'm not deep into the online play but I play it sometimes. I skate circles around my friends that play it much more than me. We can play against AI and players and Sim games.

I say, like been suggested, one league for simming and one for playing.

[Conman57]

The AI has apparently been improved a lot. Goalies are aware of every man on the ice so they react much differently to 2 on (x) situations.:D I wasn't really saying that I wanted a league with no cheap tactics or glitches, (I can use them as well as your avg. NHL gamer) but moreso saying that we could maybe put in rules against them as a lot of people hate online play (making it why they want to sim) because of that stuff. I was also thinking it would make it easier for people of lower skill level as they wouldn't know the glitches, realistic play would be much easier for them.

PS: I've seen the devs refer to the series as "NHL hockey simulator" quite a few times, they're obviously going for a pretty realistic feeling.

[Diemenz]

The AI has apparently been improved a lot. Goalies are aware of every man on the ice so they react much differently to 2 on (x) situations.:D I wasn't really saying that I wanted a league with no cheap tactics or glitches, (I can use them as well as your avg. NHL gamer) but moreso saying that we could maybe put in rules against them as a lot of people hate online play (making it why they want to sim) because of that stuff. I was also thinking it would make it easier for people of lower skill level as they wouldn't know the glitches, realistic play would be much easier for them.

But again you are assuming that your definition of a glitch matches everyone elses definition. If I come down the wing and blow a slap shot by your goalie twice in a game all of a sudden I beat you with glitches? I know I'm playing devils advocate here but im thinking that making a rule that outlines 25 different goals you can't use would make the proposed league somewhat of a farce.

AI was improved last year as well and it took all of a week before the was 2 dekes that beat them every time.......and they still work almost a year later.

Again playing devils advocate here because I have seen this all attempted several times over and have come to the conclusion you cannot combine fun and large gaps in skill into one sentence.


I must however say I enjoy your enthusiasm, it is refreshing to see people as excited about this game as I am.

[FlyingDonutz]

A glitch is a problem with the code.

They are simply taking advantage of the games faults, not glitching. Its similar, but not the same.

I have no problem with cross crease and cheap dekes because you should be able to prevent those things. cover the passing lanes, and dont give them breakaways. Easy as that. Cross crease works 90 percent of the time in real life and in the game. Cheap dekes work the same amount, but in real life it takes skill, not thumbstick ability.

[secol]

i don't want to tack on again but diem keeps reading my mind....i also don't see how x crease is a glitch considering most of the time it is wide open because somebody leaves their position or doesn't cover for the D or you just cycle the puck till the D breaks down or you utilize your points well and force the D to stay man-to-man which leaves the ice in front of the net more vulnerable

also i'm not sure if i have read it right, but from what i have read (is it this game mode?), there will be an option to play EASHL style with the teams or something? basically can do 6 V 6 in your own league which IMO would be just as good of a route if not better....instead of NHL players, you would be able to have real players with varying skill levels whom you could scout and draft/trade, set lineups with real players, etc. logistics are obviously a PITA but it's already being done through forums/communities on both consoles and would an extremely interesting option

[FlyingDonutz]

i don't want to tack on again but diem keeps reading my mind....i also don't see how x crease is a glitch considering most of the time it is wide open because somebody leaves their position or doesn't cover for the D or you just cycle the puck till the D breaks down or you utilize your points well and force the D to stay man-to-man which leaves the ice in front of the net more vulnerable

also i'm not sure if i have read it right, but from what i have read (is it this game mode?), there will be an option to play EASHL style with the teams or something? basically can do 6 V 6 in your own league which IMO would be just as good of a route if not better....instead of NHL players, you would be able to have real players with varying skill levels whom you could scout and draft/trade, set lineups with real players, etc. logistics are obviously a PITA but it's already being done through forums/communities on both consoles and would an extremely interesting option

I like it, but we dont have 750 people interested in this.

[Conman57]

A glitch is a problem with the code.

They are simply taking advantage of the games faults, not glitching. Its similar, but not the same.
I know this but I still use the word glitch when talkin about it to NHL gamers because that's what almost everyone in the NHL game community labels it as. It's easier for me to say glitch than explain what it actually is every time.
Edit: Idk why NHL is in red...

[secol]

technically you don't need 750, but yes you need more players than what we have here....perhaps allowing friends would allow us to do maybe 6 teams per conference with player/GMs? that's "only" 60+ players although each team should probably have a couple of backups and allowing friends wouldn't matter much because of real life scouting, etc

[Conman57]

technically you don't need 750, but yes you need more players than what we have here....perhaps allowing friends would allow us to do maybe 6 teams per conference with player/GMs? that's "only" 60+ players although each team should probably have a couple of backups and allowing friends wouldn't matter much because of real life scouting, etc
I think that it's a good idea but we don't have enough interest. Even if we had enough players I doubt it would work. It's not like EASHL where you can rank up, you play as whatever player you are using on the actual team. I could see people being mad when they have to play as scott Gomez or someone worse.
It would also be a lot harder to schedule games cause people would want all their players online to play.

[jgardz]

I'm in for PS3 if there's a spot...

[secol]

yep logistics are a nightmare.....the scott gomez thing wouldn't be an issue since hopefully your GM builds/drafts his team according to his players

[bspec]

It's really interesting to hear the different opinions on simming/playing in GM. While I can see both points, I personally would enjoy 1. occasionally playing with the team that I've built, and 2. playing against some of the strategies that other teams have taken time to implement (i.e. playing another GM's AI).

In BAGM I sim the vast majority of my games and focus on the managing aspect, however as Jobo said it would be nice to have the option to play a few games. I'm against player v. player games, but with the ability to tailor our strategies it would be fun to test it against actual players as well. My two cents.

[Conman57]

Yea coaching is a pretty viable option too for people who's only problem is their skill level, you could manage everything that your team does while not having to actually control them.

[Fransken]

Heya all!

I've read the most of the last posts and I do agree with the facts that everyone should play according to their own strenghts and weaknesses.

For instance I tend to play full offense and rely on big and strong defencemen who often lack finesse, and therefore I will try to customize my team that way. And as said earlier I don't think that you can demand that anyone finishes their seasons faster than three days (minimum) so there are plenty of time for everyone to play their own game and play it as good as they possible can, whether it is by going all in on trades, weigh up your lack of skill in game with your hockey sense by acting as a coach or have that strategic mind which allows you to simulate your games.

I disagree with the propositions of making the leagues a "sim only" or make restrictions because everyone have their preferences and conditions, and with this new Be a GM it allows you to utilize your skills, whatever they might be, to the fullest.

[secol]

in the end thumbstick skillz >>> team talent especially since we're probably not going to be using players outside of the NHL. even with a team of third/fourth liners there are some players who can beat the crap out of a team of crosbys and webers.....

[Hades]

Yea coaching is a pretty viable option too for people who's only problem is their skill level, you could manage everything that your team does while not having to actually control them.

This sounds interesting, is it possible to play vs a human controlled-coached team?

[likwid888]

Yea coaching is a pretty viable option too for people who's only problem is their skill level, you could manage everything that your team does while not having to actually control them.

Doesn't matter much when the game AI is retarded. Also depends on what the default difficulty will be set to vs human teams.

[Fransken]

in the end thumbstick skillz >>> team talent especially since we're probably not going to be using players outside of the NHL. even with a team of third/fourth liners there are some players who can beat the crap out of a team of crosbys and webers.....

Yes but if you got a "team of crosbys and webers..." your strenght as a GM must be trading and team building and if you, on the other hand only have a team consisting of 3/4th liners then your strenght obviously isn't the trading part.

If we decide to set the AI level to Superstar or All-star and you, as GM recognizes your own lack of thumbstick skills but have a really stacked team, choose to simulate your games because thats how you believe is your way to the Stanley Cup. When you then are facing a poor team consisting of 3/4th liners with a good player holding the controller, I say it's a pretty good matchup.

[Conman57]

This sounds interesting, is it possible to play vs a human controlled-coached team?
Yes but I think that people won't like the idea. If the AI difficulty is too high level difficulty people will probably coach just to have superpowered AI. If it's too low people who don't play will be mad cause that is also unfair. Might be hard to find a good balance.

[FlyingDonutz]

In celebration of the Canada vs Russia challenge today, I present

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[Conman57]

[QUOTE=FlyingDonutz;3820542]In celebration of the Canada vs Russia challenge today, I present


Haha nice, they also put info about the presentation in their blog! Can't wait for the Canada Russia games that are in Halifax.

[Diverce]

Doesn't matter much when the game AI is retarded. Also depends on what the default difficulty will be set to vs human teams.

Don't know how you can say that about the AI since you haven't played the game yet. Unless your basing it off of 12 which is pointless since they overhauled it and it's nothing like it has been the last 3 years. It's completely new code.

[likwid888]

Don't know how you can say that about the AI since you haven't played the game yet. Unless your basing it off of 12 which is pointless since they overhauled it and it's nothing like it has been the last 3 years. It's completely new code.

I should have clarified that I meant retarded AI on low difficulty settings.

Also, I haven't seen anything about them entirely rewriting the AI engine, which would be a fairly huge task. All I have seen is new goalie AI and team strategies/systems. Sure they have tweaked the player AI, as they always seem to do, but I highly doubt they redid it.

[Diemenz]

I will hold out judgement on AI but no matter how they rework it anything less then the hardest setting will be a cake walk like the last 11 years, it would be silly to think the game would take that much of a leap in only one year.

[Joborule]

Yes but I think that people won't like the idea. If the AI difficulty is too high level difficulty people will probably coach just to have superpowered AI. If it's too low people who don't play will be mad cause that is also unfair. Might be hard to find a good balance.

This doesn't make sense to me. Technically if your roster is much better than the opposing roster, it should outplay the opposing team under any simulation. Skill difficulty doesn't matter in that regard.

[bspec]

The Presentation Overhaul was actually really impressive. While gameplay improvements, to me, are far more important, the presentation the past few years have been more or less the same. It looks like they've put a lot of work into polishing it up this year.

[secol]

it does have an impact jobo.....for example in offline HUT if you play the 1 star tournaments VS the 5 star tournaments with CHL players with less than 65 OVR you will likely easily win 1 or 2 or even 3 star tournaments without any problems, but once you jump to 4 or 5 stars you will probably struggle to string together 4 Ws to win the tournament. for some people 3 stars might be too hard, for others it might be 4 and for a few it might be 2 or 5.

[Joborule]

I'm talking about simming, not playing the games. If he has a great roster, and chooses not to play the games because the skill difficulty is too high where's the problem? Still accomplishes their GM duties right?

[jgardz]

It looks to me like you'll be able to run your team however you want....you can sim your games, coach 'em, or play 'em. I guess the tough part is figuring out what your chosen approach is based on your own skill level and/or interests. I'm hoping to join both a "sim only" GM league, as well as a league where most games are played vs. human opponents. My only concern with the "vs" league is ending up in leagues where guys just glitch and figure skate all game. I'm hopeful that the game changes will reduce this, but there are always players like this that reduce the fun level for me.

[secol]

right but if we have a league where some sim and some play then it would be an issue.....if it is an all sim league. he was referring to player vs cpu and players who feel like they are not as good as others would be more likely to coach/sim to take advantage of the CPU (if the CPU difficulty is high), but if it is too easy then they are forced to play the games and get destroyed either way. hence hard to find a balanced difficulty

[Diverce]

I should have clarified that I meant retarded AI on low difficulty settings.

Also, I haven't seen anything about them entirely rewriting the AI engine, which would be a fairly huge task. All I have seen is new goalie AI and team strategies/systems. Sure they have tweaked the player AI, as they always seem to do, but I highly doubt they redid it.

http://www.easports.com/nhl/news/article/hockey-iq-smartest-most-true-life-ai-yet

[Jayems]

Things I desperately hope they fix in '13:

1) Ridiculous load screens. Every time you want to do something, you've got to sit through 15-20 seconds of "Loading." Pain in the ass when you have to navigate 857 menu options just to play an online game. Ever buy HUT cards? Man, 15 minutes later and you can see what crap you got in your pack. Another +1 Injury card as a rare? whooooopie!!!

2) It's been 5 years. Time to figure out online line changes. They stink, they are always freezing up on screen. Not to mention sometimes you can't even change a line, like after a fight.

Hope those are settled for GM mode.

[FlyingDonutz]

What they really need to do is add a practice arena for the loading screen.

[Russic]

By the way the conversation in here is going, I'm starting to think there won't be a single league on both systems but rather several on each. I never even realized people play the game with sim in mind. I don't think the "100% sim" and the "no sim if it's avoidable" camps will be able to reach an agreement.

My ideal league has people making an honest effort to play their games, but if it looks like they won't be able to reach an agreement in their schedules, then a sim takes place.

I'm guessing about half of the people currently signed up on each system feel differently, so at some point we should probably consider each system having a full sim league and a play league. While that seems like it wouldn't be ideal, I've heard from people that play in similar Madden leagues that once too many players get involved things can get muddled easily. Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise and keeping the man numbers in each league down a bit will keep things moving along.

[secol]

i mean it's not a huge deal for me, but we know there's a wide range of skill levels

[Conman57]

Announced at gamescon: NHL 13 demo out on August 21!

2 skill level leagues (ex: average players and hardcore players) would nice but I don't think that there would be enough people per league if we also has sim leagues. It would also be hard to judge who should be in which league. I agree that we need a sim league and a playing league, if we mix them the simmers just won't play their games and say that they were busy or something.

[psicodude]

I would be interested in being in the Sim-only league on the 360, but would like to know what sort of realistic time commitment would be required. Being the typical guy with a wife/kids I will only get 5 - 8 hours a week in at best.

I just don't want to be "that guy" who screws up the entire league because he isn't around for 2 - 3 days at a time.

[FlyingDonutz]

I would be interested in being in the Sim-only league on the 360, but would like to know what sort of realistic time commitment would be required. Being the typical guy with a wife/kids I will only get 5 - 8 hours a week in at best.

I just don't want to be "that guy" who screws up the entire league because he isn't around for 2 - 3 days at a time.

Simming takes up about 3 minutes of your time. You'll be fine.

[bspec]

By the way the conversation in here is going, I'm starting to think there won't be a single league on both systems but rather several on each. I never even realized people play the game with sim in mind. I don't think the "100% sim" and the "no sim if it's avoidable" camps will be able to reach an agreement.

My ideal league has people making an honest effort to play their games, but if it looks like they won't be able to reach an agreement in their schedules, then a sim takes place.

I'm guessing about half of the people currently signed up on each system feel differently, so at some point we should probably consider each system having a full sim league and a play league. While that seems like it wouldn't be ideal, I've heard from people that play in similar Madden leagues that once too many players get involved things can get muddled easily. Perhaps this is a blessing in disguise and keeping the man numbers in each league down a bit will keep things moving along.

Good points. I think the "100% sim" and the "no sim if it's avoidable" parties should prepare their proposals and come to an agreement before the September 11, 2012 deadline. Both sides seem to have alternative views, but in the end everyone just wants to play hockey. I think we can make it work.

=)

[FlyingDonutz]

UPDATES FOR NHL 13

DEMO RELEASE DATE: AUGUST 21ST, 2012
Use this to get acclamated to the game. I believe we are starting right on the 11th, Joborule correct me if I'm wrong.

TOP PLAYERS ARE
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1297562-nhl-13-top-rated-forwards-defenseman-and-goalies-in-the-game/page/1

How in the bloody hell is Price higher than Kipper? If anything, they should be equal. I'm assuming Kipper will be a 89 again. Would be total BS if he wasn't. 88 is as low as I'll accept, EA.

NHL 13 TRUE PERFORMANCE SKATING TUTORIAL:

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[Russic]

I'm not usually a stickler for issues like this, but I'm having trouble getting past the how the puck looks when the player is going full tilt. He seems to constantly bump it only to have it suck back towards him. It looks incredibly odd even on the standard camera. Usually I don't notice these issues because you have to use a closer camera to see them, but that one is quite obvious. Perhaps the video was just made a while ago...

[likwid888]

I'm not usually a stickler for issues like this, but I'm having trouble getting past the how the puck looks when the player is going full tilt. He seems to constantly bump it only to have it suck back towards him. It looks incredibly odd even on the standard camera. Usually I don't notice these issues because you have to use a closer camera to see them, but that one is quite obvious. Perhaps the video was just made a while ago...

It's an illusion. The puck isn't "sucking" back towards him, after he pushes it, the puck slows down while he is still moving at a constant speed. Also, the camera angle doesn't help much either.

[Russic]

nm, just realized this isn't the general nhl 13 discussion thread. Sorry for the derailment.

[Hockey]

UPDATES FOR NHL 13

DEMO RELEASE DATE: AUGUST 21ST, 2012
Use this to get acclamated to the game. I believe we are starting right on the 11th, Joborule correct me if I'm wrong.

TOP PLAYERS ARE
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1297562-nhl-13-top-rated-forwards-defenseman-and-goalies-in-the-game/page/1

How in the bloody hell is Price higher than Kipper? If anything, they should be equal. I'm assuming Kipper will be a 89 again. Would be total BS if he wasn't. 88 is as low as I'll accept, EA.

NHL 13 TRUE PERFORMANCE SKATING TUTORIAL:

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I think it be better if we started a few days after the release date. Give everyone a few days to go pick up the game, just in case some can't get it on release date.

[slybomb]

i would like to play (Xbox 360)

[king_amonte]

Has a date been decided for when we are starting or picking teams? Pretty excited for this!!!

[Fransken]

All team ratings has been released, discuss them please! Spontaneously I feel that Letang (90) and Phaneuf (88) along with Canucks first defensive pairing is a bit overrated with a 90 rating above the likes of Weber (89) and Suter (88). Iginla, Kipper, N. Bäckström and Pitkanen was a few I recall should have a point or two higher ratings.

Western Conference:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-13-player-team-ratings-western-conference-171103847--nhl.html

Eastern Conference:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-13-player-team-ratings-eastern-conference-220009401--nhl.html

[likwid888]

All team ratings has been released, discuss them please! Spontaneously I feel that Letang (90) and Phaneuf (88) along with Canucks first defensive pairing is a bit overrated with a 90 rating above the likes of Weber (89) and Suter (88). Iginla, Kipper, N. Bäckström and Pitkanen was a few I recall should have a point or two higher ratings.

Western Conference:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-13-player-team-ratings-western-conference-171103847--nhl.html

Eastern Conference:

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/nhl-13-player-team-ratings-eastern-conference-220009401--nhl.html

The game is made in Vancouver, with the lead producer being a huge Canuck fan-boy. Are you really that surprised that they inflate Canuck player ratings?

[Joborule]

The game is made in Vancouver, with the lead producer being a huge Canuck fan-boy. Are you really that surprised that they inflate Canuck player ratings?

To be honest though EA hires professional scouts and get their input for player ratings. Otherwise it would be challenging for them to form opinions on all NHL teams along with the AHL, CHL, and Euro leagues.

[likwid888]

To be honest though EA hires professional scouts and get their input for player ratings. Otherwise it would be challenging for them to form opinions on all NHL teams along with the AHL, CHL, and Euro leagues.

Local scouts, right?

[Joborule]

Local scouts, right?

Least we forget that in the media eyes, and in all honesty the Canucks are a fairly talented team. So they should be having high rated players across here and there. And these overall are based on position and the skills applied to it.

While Luongo at 89 is disputable, he has been able to get results in the regular season. It's when it comes to pressure games that he can faulter.

[Conman57]

The toronto ratings are really messed up, Phaneuf is an 88. Grabovski is the same level as Connelly along with almost all of their centers.

Most teams seem to have weird ratings though.

[kobasew19]

Hey Jobo,

I'm actually on 360 not play station.

Thanks

[FlyingDonutz]

Ahhhh Those ratings are really stupid. Kipper finished with better stats than every goalie above him besides the Vezina finalists.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Has a date been decided for when we are starting or picking teams? Pretty excited for this!!!

I second this question.

Has a date been discussed and are we going to jump right into it when the game comes out on the 11th or are we going to wait a week for people to get adjusted to it or what?

[FlyingDonutz]

Has a date been decided for when we are starting or picking teams? Pretty excited for this!!!

No, not yet. We'll probably have that figured out within a week, though, stay tuned.

[Mitch]

Have we decided to split the leagues for a sim only/ play game leagues? I can not play if we are playing games, I just don't have the time with the time differentials and school coming up. I'm playing GM mode to manage a team, not play one.

[FlyingDonutz]

Have we decided to split the leagues for a sim only/ play game leagues? I can not play if we are playing games, I just don't have the time with the time differentials and school coming up. I'm playing GM mode to manage a team, not play one.

You don't have to play if you don't want to, and I am not sure if we're splitting them up, or what.

[Mitch]

You don't have to play if you don't want to, and I am not sure if we're splitting them up, or what.

Like I said, I won't if were doing play-game leagues. Guess we'll have to wait until it gets closer to the release date.

[Joborule]

Like I said, I won't if were doing play-game leagues. Guess we'll have to wait until it gets closer to the release date.

I'm not sure if it's in the best interest to split leagues or not. EA has made this game mode appeal to all type of gamers allowing to participate in this league in anyway you want to. If you're going to play games against CPU teams, you can. Obviously the skill level will be at a high level (All-Star or Hall of Fame) so it isn't such a cakewalk for those really good at the game. You can challenge your opponent head to head if you wish, by controlling the players or coaching the AI. Or you can skip out on challenging the opponent and let them take on your team with pre-set strategies in place.

The team rosters should be fairly balanced initially since we're most likely going to randomize rosters. So chances are that you won't ever have your AI or your team take on a roster that is much more superior than your own.

I don't want there to be the case that a league(s) isn't getting enough action because there are not enough active users in each one. Splitting them can create this problem since there would be less head-on human interaction. Quite frankly if you want to be in a sim league you're practically still getting the same experience since games will go on without you playing them. You don't have to play the games, but I feel there should be some incentives to the guys that do play games when they get the chance, since they're taking time to play a game out fully; and taking the opportunity to dictate the result of the game themselves rather than through simulation.

I think this may work best if it's a big league and people participate in anyway they want to. At least this way it will feel more alive and give the league better life so it'll be successful. Those concerned about the skill level disparity can avoid on ice head-to-head games when they feel outmatched, and put their faith in the AI. The skill level of the AI should hopefully make it a challenging experience still for those of us that do play the games so it isn't a guaranteed win every time. This is why EA has given this game mode all these options; they want to prevent alienation for any type of gamer.

EDIT: Also concern about players playing too 'cheesy' and relying on exploits can be addressed if it becomes an issue that needs to be dealt with. I hold faith however that we all have good sportsmanship here so this doesn't become the case.

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

So for drafting which teams we'd like to play with:

Are we going to have a deal sort of like when CP does their Entry Draft thread every year? For example, everyone is randomized into 30 spots. The person drafting #1 will pick a team and then send a PM to the person who has the #2 pick and so on and so forth.

Is that the way we'll work it?

[likwid888]

So for drafting which teams we'd like to play with:

Are we going to have a deal sort of like when CP does their Entry Draft thread every year? For example, everyone is randomized into 30 spots. The person drafting #1 will pick a team and then send a PM to the person who has the #2 pick and so on and so forth.

Is that the way we'll work it?

I agree. I think this is the best way to pick teams, and seems to always run smoothly for the other CP drafts.

[FlyingDonutz]

I agree on the drafting order, however I feel like that will need to be done ASAP. The demo comes out tomorrow, and I'd like for all of this to be set up and everything to be totally planned BEFORE a week before the release date, just so any rough patches can be patched before release.

We're about 3 weeks away from release here, so I say we get the official threads for Xbox (made by me) and PS3 (up to Joborule) and we'll go from there, so we can get the player list finalized and everything planned, like I said, on time.

And for a starting date. Just throwing this out there, lets start on the 18th. Effectively giving everyone a week to familiarize themselves with the controls and get acquainted with the new skating system and all the other new features.

So, to run it down, these are the details I propose, as the commissioner for the 360 league. I just want to make sure everyone is happy with these, including Joborule because he founded the thread.

Official Threads: Made on the 21st, when the demo is released, to allow players to make time to make their final decisions and allow the commissioners to organize all the details we need, with ample time to figure out any and all issues that may or may not arise while we are anticipating the 11th.

Leagues:
Two leagues per console, not separated by playing or simming, or skill level. The game allows for all of that to be avoided, depending on your concern. Divide the leagues by veteran status, meaning whoever requested first, once we reach a half-point mark, the league is split.

Cut-Off date [Sept 11th]: I suggest a cut-off date, where it's too late to join. We could make that the 11th, when the game is released, so we have a week to organize the draft. Then, joining could be opened once the season and playoffs end, and give any new'uns a week to join, then we start again.

Max players a league/Max Leagues: I suggest a 30 player limit. I don't believe anyone should be able to play as a player, because it proves to completely render the rating system null. (I could win 30-0 against the Legends team using my hometown SSM Greyhounds of the OHL on rookie, and probably beat them all the way up to superstar with little effort). I also suggest 2-3 leagues being opened a console max, though I don't believe we'll need more than 2 a console.

Season start date [Sept 18th]: This gives players sufficient time to get acquainted and get organized.

Now for rules.

Difficulty Setting: All Star (NO higher. Wouldn't be totally fair for some of the less-experienced CPers.)

Periods when head-to-head. 5 or 10 minutes. I suggest 10, but others may want shorter.

Injuries: On, definitely.

Salary Cap: If this is editable, leave it.

Length of Season: I think this is editable, CMIIW, but if it is, I say we cut it to half-seasons, 41 games.

Now I understand that that Commissioners have to verify ALL league moves. Now I suggest we assign days that we do this. Just so people specifically know WHEN they will be receiving their players, and when they'll have more cap space, etc.

So,

Verification days: Monday, Wednesday, Friday - Does that work?

Drafts: Manual. The player drafts should be manual. We should try to find a date and time that's mutually acceptable for the vast majority of players (70 percent). Maybe Commissioners can assign players to the people that don't show up to the draft. I would also be fine with Automatic, but it sort of defeats the purpose in scouting, no?




If I'm missing anything let me know, and please let me know what you guys agree on!

As I said, as the commish for the 360 league, I want to make everyone happy, and I'll do everything I can to make sure of that, because this is going to be some time-consuming stuff, and I want everyone to have fun.

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[Hockey_Ninja]

I might be interested in joining for 360. It depends on if i have the time.