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pylon
03-13-2012, 05:46 PM
I know nothing about Jazz, except that I really like it.
About a month ago, I took the suggestion of a colleague that swears by having Jazz playing in his office to relax him, and relieve stress during the day. And boy, what an awesome suggestion, it totally calms me down when things get hectic. I have been streaming it off of tunein.com (which is totally awesome by the way) and clients seem to love it too. Almost makes me want to start mixing martinis for them as well.
Any suggestions of what I should be listening to? I am listening to a lot of softer fusion stuff, but want to start learning more about the genre. I really dig the dark, quiet, Vegas lounge sort of feel. Not a huge fan of the acid stuff, where a guy just points his trumpet at the ground and starts free styling.
Anyway, tell me what I should be listening to.
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Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 05:51 PM
I love Jazz, and have been into it since I was a kid.
www.jazzradio.com (http://www.jazzradio.com)
This is an amazing website for streaming music, and they have "Jazz" broken up into its 20 or so sub-genres all with their own feeds.
As for what you should be listening to, I would start with Charlie Parker. He practically invented be-bop.
Pierre "Monster" McGuire
03-13-2012, 05:53 PM
I love Jazz, but I don't really know too too much about it. Personally, I really enjoy vocal jazz. Billie Holliday, Ella Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, Bob Crosby, etc.
I like big band as well.
afc wimbledon
03-13-2012, 06:10 PM
Live at the Village Vanguard, Bill Evans, 3 disc box set, quite cheap, sublime.
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I will warn you though it will lead to the purchase of ever more expensive stereo as the better the speakers,amps and preamp the more you will be imersed in it, hear people talking in the background, glasses clinking etc. Personally I am up to around 10 grand of hi fi in order to listen to jazz.
pylon
03-13-2012, 06:16 PM
So you are saying my $40 logitech speakers from memory express aren't good enough?
Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 06:19 PM
So you are saying my $40 logitech speakers from memory express aren't good enough?
There is a charm to some of the earliest recordings you're missing out on. Not having a lot of bass to begin with, what you'd be listening to on 40 speakers must have no bottom end at all!
octothorp
03-13-2012, 06:20 PM
Have you listened to much Charles Mingus? One of my absolute favorite musicians. Lots of influence from the old Duke Ellington big band sort of sound, with a heavy element of soul to it.
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I also really like improv trios, Keith Jarrett's, Brad Mehldau's, and Ron Carter's, and Medeski Martin and Wood being some of my favorites. Piano, bass and drums is just such a great combination. They might fit with the more of Vegas lounge sound you're talking about.
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I'm also a bit of a fan of Sex Mob, although I've had more serious jazz enthusiasts scoff at me because of that. Their album of James Bond covers is awesome.
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kunkstyle
03-13-2012, 06:22 PM
So you are saying my $40 logitech speakers from memory express aren't good enough?
I suppose you're mixing those martinis you were talking about with Kirkland Signature Vodka, too? ;)
Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 06:25 PM
Hey octothorp, Keith Jarrett is a friggin BEAST! You ever seen him play with Miles?
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Only thing I don't like is the Soprano player, but that's because he got to play with Miles and I think I could smoke him.
MrMastodonFarm
03-13-2012, 06:27 PM
I love it when pylon finds a new hobby or interest.
He is going to go full bore into it for the next 6 months, defend it to the death and laugh at anyone who doesn't love it exactly like he does, then forget about it eventually.
Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 06:28 PM
Jazz is awesome stuff, MMF. Even pylon can be turned to the dark side.
afc wimbledon
03-13-2012, 06:28 PM
So you are saying my $40 logitech speakers from memory express aren't good enough?
Due to my lack of a significant other I was able to take advantage of a very nice guys need to get rid of his speakers and amps due to his wife shouting, 'you sell those bloody things now or I am leaving!' needless to say I had a rather good bargining position and got a great deal on most of his kit. This are the speakers I picked up
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They are huge and heavy and a pain in the arse in every respect except one, you can hear everything, every nuance, the delay of the piano at the end of a note and in the case of a Nina Simone song I was listening to one day, the sound of her music being turned, just the slightest rustle of paper!
It pretty well becomes an addiction though, endlessly changing parts to try and get the perfect sound!
Anyway if you do decide to upgrade go to Canuckaudiomart.com for great second hand gear at 1/3rd the price of new, and trust me late 80's to mid ninties stereo was way better in many ways to post Dolby surround sound kit.
Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 06:35 PM
^ Thanks times 1000. Even in modern music there is so much stuff most people don't hear because they don't know to listen for it because they don't know what good speakers sound like.
What exactly are they, and what amp are you using?
Nina Simone has been on heavy rotation in my home/life since the very first time I heard "Black Is The Color Of My True Love's Hair."
pylon
03-13-2012, 06:37 PM
I love it when pylon finds a new hobby or interest.
He is going to go full bore into it for the next 6 months, defend it to the death and laugh at anyone who doesn't love it exactly like he does, then forget about it eventually.
What the hell are you talking about?
Cycling season just hasn't started yet, I will be chiming on on that soon.
pylon
03-13-2012, 06:39 PM
There is a charm to some of the earliest recordings your missing out on. Not having a lot of bass to begin with, what you'd be listening to on 40 speakers must have no bottom end at all!
At home, I have some pretty decent HK stuff actually, and Polk speakers. At work, I gotta keep the volume low, so I don't think I need anything super special.
Milt Schmidt
03-13-2012, 06:39 PM
Lots of good stuff mentioned already, I'd add Oscar Peterson and Dave Brubeck to the list.
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enthused
03-13-2012, 06:41 PM
I love it when pylon finds a new hobby or interest.
He is going to go full bore into it for the next 6 months, defend it to the death and laugh at anyone who doesn't love it exactly like he does, then forget about it eventually.
So how long do we have to wait until pylon's CrazyBaconLegs obsession dies down? Another month or two?
MrMastodonFarm
03-13-2012, 06:43 PM
What the hell are you talking about?
haha it's not a big deal. I've just noticed that when you start a new interest or hobby you seem to go head first into it and get totally into it.
The working out, DSLR, cycling threads all spring to mind.
The "forget about it" comment might not be correct though.
pylon
03-13-2012, 06:44 PM
See this is why I never talk about anything that interests me anymore. It always turns into a pick on pylon thread.
Fine, I hate Jazz.
I'm pretty simple when it comes to Jazz, I like Miles Davis, and I haven't really ventured off into much more. Personally, I'm on an early Blues kick at the moment.
pylon
03-13-2012, 06:46 PM
haha it's not a big deal. I've just noticed that when you start a new interest or hobby you seem to go head first into it and get totally into it.
The working out, DSLR, cycling threads all spring to mind.
The "forget about it" comment might not be correct though.
All things I am still into heavily. I will make sure I let you know the next time I take a HDR picture of an interesting shrub off of a bike path, near the gym I work out at.
MrMastodonFarm
03-13-2012, 06:47 PM
See this is why I never talk about anything that interests me anymore. It always turns into a pick on pylon thread.
We really do need an official Pick on pylon thread.
pylon
03-13-2012, 06:47 PM
We really do need an official Pick on pylon thread.
Agreed.
Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 06:48 PM
Lots of good stuff mentioned already, I'd add Oscar Peterson and Dave Brubeck to the list.
Milt
Totally forgot about Brubeck. I really like Paul Desmond's sax sound in Dave's band. Hey pylon, if you don't know the song "Take Five" it's a standard that is in 5/4 and it's kind of weird. Also by them is "Blue Rondo a la Turk" which has sections in 7/4 I think...
afc wimbledon
03-13-2012, 06:48 PM
^ Thanks times 1000. Even in modern music there is so much stuff most people don't hear because they don't know to listen for it because they don't know what good speakers sound like.
What exactly are they, and what amp are you using?
Nina Simone has been on heavy rotation in my home/life since the very first time I heard "Black Is The Color Of My True Love's Hair."
Those are B&W matrix 801's series 3, from about 1991, I have to many amps, but I run these on a Spectral pre power combo from the mid 80's that came with the speakers and I had intended to flip but ended up loving to much to move.
There is a pair of older Energy reference 22's in NE Calgary for 200 bucks listed on Canuckaudiomart right now, great speaker at a great price assuming they are working ok, wont go to huge volume but absolutely lovely for jazz.
If I were in Calgary I would be buying them even though I do not need them at all!
http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/uploads/36/648984932_thumb_dec9befc1cf4c9404de37e283278891d.j pg (http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/view_images.php?cat=Speakers&catnick=speakers&cfid=648984932&image_id=2896752)
Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 06:52 PM
Those are SWEET!
I listen to everything on Yamaha NS-10's. They sound like crap but they're in every major studio in the world for a reason. If it sounds good on them, it sounds good on everything.*
* Not quite true, but for conversation's sake.
If you like jazz, check out the Beat Niq for live shows. Make sure you know what you're getting into though, some of it isn't particularly accessible.
Northendzone
03-13-2012, 07:00 PM
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Two Fivenagame
03-13-2012, 07:03 PM
Those are SWEET!
I listen to everything on Yamaha NS-10's. They sound like crap but they're in every major studio in the world for a reason. If it sounds good on them, it sounds good on everything.*
* Not quite true, but for conversation's sake.
Holy eff you have ns-10s?
serious respect, Trad. Nicely done.
afc wimbledon
03-13-2012, 07:08 PM
Those are SWEET!
I listen to everything on Yamaha NS-10's. They sound like crap but they're in every major studio in the world for a reason. If it sounds good on them, it sounds good on everything.*
* Not quite true, but for conversation's sake.
If the Energy's are working ok they would be a serious upgrade on the Yamaha's. I have listened to and sold both (used to work weekends at A&B sound selling them back in the 90's). Definatly worth a listen if the wife would go for them.
Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 07:11 PM
If the Energy's are working ok they would be a serious upgrade on the Yamaha's. I have listened to and sold both (used to work weekends at A&B sound selling them back in the 90's). Definatly worth a listen if the wife would go for them.
How are they as a studio monitor? I live in a studio, so to speak.
kunkstyle
03-13-2012, 07:20 PM
I'm in the same boat. I know next to nothing about jazz, but I do enjoy it.
If you're into Bossa Nova at all, Wanda de Sah and Sergio Mendez are a good listen.
afc wimbledon
03-13-2012, 07:23 PM
How are they as a studio monitor? I live in a studio, so to speak.
They stand about 3 foot high and would benefit from being out from the wall a bit, if I remember rightly they are ported out of the bottom so they can get quite close to a wall though. They have a superb mid range and treble response, they will not pound out rock and roll at huge volume though, so not a 'young mans' speaker.
The only other pairs around is going for 1100 in Ottawa or 1000 in Quebec so 200 is an outstanding price assuming they are working ok! I'd have a listen to them, although if who ever's selling them has a moderatly nice amp you may fall in love with them!
WilsonFourTwo
03-13-2012, 07:25 PM
My advice would be to go to HMV and buy whatever "Multiple CD Set" you can for a reasonable price. Check for the names listed thus far in this thread (great work CP).
Also - CBC's new Jazz Station is nothing short of FANTASTIC. You will have no trouble getting an introduction to stuff you like.
Another warning though....Jazz often leads to the Blues, then to Funk, then to insanity.
And Pylon.....Jazz is awesome when riding through the mountains on two wheels. Like peanut butter and chocolate.
Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 07:26 PM
They stand about 3 foot high and would benefit from being out from the wall a bit, if I remember rightly they are ported out of the bottom so they can get quite close to a wall though. They have a superb mid range and treble response, they will not pound out rock and roll at huge volume though, so not a 'young mans' speaker.
The only other pair around is going for 1100 in Ottawa so 200 is an outstanding price assuming they are working ok! I'd have a listen to them, although if who ever's selling them has a moderatly nice amp you may fall in love with them!
I'm sure I would. I have to be careful because I love almost all gear for one reason or another. But at three-feet tall I have no room for them!!!
Do you still have yours? I'd love to hear them!
Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 07:28 PM
MOAR JAZZ!
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afc wimbledon
03-13-2012, 07:33 PM
I'm sure I would. I have to be careful because I love almost all gear for one reason or another. But at three-feet tall I have no room for them!!!
Do you still have yours? I'd love to hear them!
No, I moved into Kefs for a while, was running a superb pair of 104/2's which are still sitting in a cupboard as I can't bare to part with them even though the 801's are head and shoulders better.
If space is a premium I would keep your eyes open for an older pair of B&W matrix 805's, they go for 500 to 800 depending on finish and the hutzpah of the seller and they sound utterly lovely.
They are a true moniter, you can put them in a bookshelf or right up against a wall. Probably 1.5 ft cubed but sound like they are a full size speaker. Audiogon is a good source for second hand gear frm the US, they changed their website so it is actually harder to get around but I will head down to Seattle to look at stuff at times.
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kunkstyle
03-13-2012, 07:34 PM
This is the theme from the anime "Cowboy Bebop"
Nice pick. That's usually in a regular rotation on my playlists.
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I'm quite new to jazz, but have come across a lot of artists that I would say are definitely worth checking out. Obviously the well known names (John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Thelonious Monk, Herbie Hancock, etc.) are essential.
One song everybody will likely know by default:
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I'll put the rest of the videos in spoiler tags to clean up my post a bit:
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If you want something recent and an interesting take on jazz, Japan's Soil & "Pimp" Sessions are incredible:
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Also, Colin Stetson is a Canadian jazz saxophonist who does everything in one take using circular breathing:
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Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 07:58 PM
No, I moved into Kefs for a while, was running a superb pair of 104/2's which are still sitting in a cupboard as I can't bare to part with them even though the 801's are head and shoulders better.
If space is a premium I would keep your eyes open for an older pair of B&W matrix 805's, they go for 500 to 800 depending on finish and the hutzpah of the seller and they sound utterly lovely.
They are a true moniter, you can put them in a bookshelf or right up against a wall. Probably 1.5 ft cubed but sound like they are a full size speaker. Audiogon is a good source for second hand gear frm the US, they changed their website so it is actually harder to get around but I will head down to Seattle to look at stuff at times.
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You know a lot more about speaker technology than me. Truth be told I was lucky enough to have a friend simply give the NS-10s to me, saying his Dad hated them, and he hated them, and I liked them from audio school. I think we need to have a beer, and let this thread not turn into the "Gear Thread" because I would nerd-out to epic proportions.
Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 08:01 PM
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From Wikipedia:
In jazz (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz) and jazz harmony (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_harmony), "rhythm changes" refers to the chord progression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chord_progression) occurring in George Gershwin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gershwin)'s song "I Got Rhythm (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Got_Rhythm)". This pattern, which forms the basis of countless (usually uptempo) jazz compositions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_composition), was popular with swing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_music)-era musicians: It is found in "Shoeshine Boy" (Lester Young (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lester_Young)'s 1936 breakout recording with Count Basie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Basie)) and "Cotton Tail (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cotton_Tail)" written by Duke Ellington (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duke_Ellington) in 1940, as well as Charlie Christian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Christian)'s "Seven Come Eleven", "Charlie Parker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Parker)'s 'Salt Peanuts (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_Peanuts)'," and Thelonious Monk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thelonious_Monk)'s "Rhythm-a-Ning", for instance. The earliest known use of rhythm changes was by Sidney Bechet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Bechet) in his September 15, 1932 recording of "Shag" with his "New Orleans Feetwarmers" group.
This progression's endurance in popularity is largely due to its extensive use by early bebop (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bebop) musicians. The chord changes began to be used in the 1930s, became extremely common in the '40s and '50s, and are now ubiquitous. First, "I Got Rhythm" was by then already a popular jazz standard (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz_standard), and by listening to the song and writing a new melody over its chord changes (a type of composition known as a contrafact (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrafact)), a jazz musician could claim copyright (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright) to the new melody rather than acknowledge Gershwin's inspiration and pay royalties (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royalties) to his estate.
In popular music (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popular_music), "rhythm changes" refers to the first four-chord section of the full progression that the term denotes in the jazz context. This "sub-progression" forms the entire harmonic structure of an enormous number of popular hits released during the 1950s and 1960s (as well as of a significant number since then), in part because Gershwin's song is not the only source of this portion of the progression: Because the chord changes in question form part of a circle progression (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_progression), they have been readily amenable to independent discovery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_discovery#Humanities) by other artists both before and after Gershwin, with the effect that less creative musicians have been able to "borrow" the progression from songs other than "I Got Rhythm" whether or not those songs themselves borrowed from Gershwin.
Today, mastery of the blues (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twelve-bar_blues) and rhythm changes are "critical elements for building a jazz repertoire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repertoire)".
MrMastodonFarm
03-13-2012, 08:05 PM
I'm quite new to jazz, but have come across a lot of artists that I would say are definitely worth checking out. Obviously the well known names (John Coltrane, Miles Davis, Thelonious Monk, Herbie Hancock, etc.) are essential.
One song everybody will likely know by default:
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Sim City flash back!
Initial funny/jerk comment aside, great thread pylin and for those contributing.
NiklasSundblad
03-13-2012, 08:08 PM
Kind of Blue by Miles Davis. That is the one complete album you need to get first. One of the greatest records of any genre ever made.
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Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 08:14 PM
My favorite is Bitches Brew.
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sclitheroe
03-13-2012, 08:32 PM
I love Jazz, and have been into it since I was a kid.
www.jazzradio.com (http://www.jazzradio.com)
This is an amazing website for streaming music, and they have "Jazz" broken up into its 20 or so sub-genres all with their own feeds.
As for what you should be listening to, I would start with Charlie Parker. He practically invented be-bop.
JAZZRADIO.COM IS FANTASTIC...subscriber here.
sadora
03-13-2012, 08:34 PM
Here's more Mingus...didn't see this song posted anywhere....
Sorry, having issues with embeding this...here's the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWmE8T09-G4&feature=fvst
sclitheroe
03-13-2012, 08:35 PM
Also, I'm concerned that we're on page 3 and there hasn't been any mention of Wes Montgomery yet. Or Django, if we want to go way back. Those are the two guys I'm exploring in detail right now.
Traditional_Ale
03-13-2012, 08:45 PM
Also, I'm concerned that we're on page 3 and there hasn't been any mention of Wes Montgomery yet. Or Django, if we want to go way back. Those are the two guys I'm exploring in detail right now.
Post videos!
sclitheroe
03-13-2012, 08:51 PM
Probably my favorite videos of Wes, but first a word from the man himself:
"I never practice my guitar... from time to time I just open the case and throw in a piece of raw meat" - Wes Montgomery
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sclitheroe
03-13-2012, 08:56 PM
These guys do a great cover of Django's Belleville (and do lots of other Django stuff, about as well as anyone on the planet). Wish I could play like these guys.
No offense taken if you don't like this tune, this is _really_ old jazz
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pylon
03-13-2012, 09:10 PM
Lots of great suggestions so far. Looks like I have a lot of learning/listening to do.
sclitheroe
03-13-2012, 09:15 PM
Lots of great suggestions so far. Looks like I have a lot of learning/listening to do.
Verve Jazz Masters is a 60 CD set that will quickly let you survey a huge swath of the Jazz landscape. That's what I grabbed when I was getting started, before I started purchasing artists I enjoy.
pylon
03-13-2012, 09:17 PM
Verve Jazz Masters is a 60 CD set that will quickly let you survey a huge swath of the Jazz landscape. That's what I grabbed when I was getting started, before I started purchasing artists I enjoy.
Holy crap, how much did that set you back?
sclitheroe
03-13-2012, 09:18 PM
Holy crap, how much did that set you back?
Time and bandwidth, if you catch my drift... I've since payed into jazzradio.com as well as purchased albums of artists I will listen to again (including albums produced by Verve, so I don't feel shame, really)
Jimmy Krack Korn
03-13-2012, 09:33 PM
There's almost nothing better than listening to live jazz in a smoky club late at night, but I have a peculiar aversion to listening to jazz otherwise. I think it has something to do with the fact that no recorded jazz can measure up to the real deal. I got spoiled a long time ago by just happening to be in Toronto for the jazz festival about 15 years ago and nothing measures up to watching some of the best jazz musicians in the world jam at 4 in the morning while slamming imported beers and smoking good cigars.
afc wimbledon
03-13-2012, 10:33 PM
Holy crap, how much did that set you back?
You'd be amazed at how cheap jazz compilations are, best of Verve or Blue Note or the like, mosts of it is essentially free to put out, songs are all public domain artists OD'd in the 60's etc.
kunkstyle
03-13-2012, 11:15 PM
Verve Jazz Masters is a 60 CD set that will quickly let you survey a huge swath of the Jazz landscape. That's what I grabbed when I was getting started, before I started purchasing artists I enjoy.
Verve has a ton of good compilations. Good way to get a good variety to find out what you like.
The iTunes essentials are a pretty good way to sample music too. I found a lot of music that way. Not saying to jump out and buy one of the essentials playlists (because they're retardedly priced), but you can usually listen to a minute and a half clip of some stuff you wouldn't necessarily be exposed to elsewhere.
I will warn you though it will lead to the purchase of ever more expensive stereo as the better the speakers,amps and preamp the more you will be imersed in it, hear people talking in the background, glasses clinking etc. Personally I am up to around 10 grand of hi fi in order to listen to jazz.
So what exactly makes a stereo system better for jazz? I've got a pretty decent audio setup, but always interested in new gear...
Flames_Gimp
03-14-2012, 01:29 AM
i totally misread the thread title for a second....
Flacker
03-14-2012, 01:52 AM
I love me some Jazz, but it's not for everyone.
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afc wimbledon
03-14-2012, 03:23 AM
Verve has a ton of good compilations. Good way to get a good variety to find out what you like.
The iTunes essentials are a pretty good way to sample music too. I found a lot of music that way. Not saying to jump out and buy one of the essentials playlists (because they're retardedly priced), but you can usually listen to a minute and a half clip of some stuff you wouldn't necessarily be exposed to elsewhere.
So what exactly makes a stereo system better for jazz? I've got a pretty decent audio setup, but always interested in new gear...
Pretty much the same that makes it good for classical, very flat frequency response, very accurate, jazz sometimes benefits from a slightly 'coloured' speaker, a touch of emphasis on the bass.
The british speakers, Kef, B&W, Celestian etc tend to do well at whatever price point as they always seem to design around the idea that their speakers will be used to listen to classical even if it is not likely.
The Canadian brands, Mirage and Energy and totem have always tried to challenge the british for sound quality and design approach at least in their higher price point speakers, not so much at the lower end.
The n american brands, JBL, Cerwin Vega etc tend to be designed for a more contempory (rock) audience so they tend to heavily 'colour' them to emphasise the bottem end as well as adding protection circuits but that comes at the sacrifice of their ability to really bring out nuance in the vocals and acoustic instruments.
drhu22
03-14-2012, 05:11 AM
Not a hard core jazz fan, but here is a bit of more 'accessible' stuff you might like...
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troutman
03-14-2012, 09:26 AM
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=78499&highlight=jazz
There's almost nothing better than listening to live jazz in a smoky club late at night, but I have a peculiar aversion to listening to jazz otherwise. I think it has something to do with the fact that no recorded jazz can measure up to the real deal. I got spoiled a long time ago by just happening to be in Toronto for the jazz festival about 15 years ago and nothing measures up to watching some of the best jazz musicians in the world jam at 4 in the morning while slamming imported beers and smoking good cigars.
I hear ya. I was in NO for a week last September, and was just blown away. I had no idea it could be so good, and now listening on the computer will never be quite the same. I have to get back at some time, it was just simply amazing.
I actually had a chance to sit down for about an hour with a pianist that was playing at the Royal Sonesta, it was one of the coolest conversations I've ever had. The guy was a fantastic creative pianist and had a pretty interesting life to boot.
Hesla
03-14-2012, 12:13 PM
If You like jazz guitar you have to check out the collaborations done by Al Di Meola, Paco De Lucia and John McLaughlin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJsZT8cRaWM
Chick Corea is a personal favorite, however he does head into some real odd places with his music
http://www.youtube.com/embed/tB7EEpB-uoE
EDIT: Not sure why i can't embed it
Mr_Pilot
03-14-2012, 12:21 PM
I love Jazz!
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2726/4169336909_641c5617bc.jpg
Gotta admire those Dash 8's!
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drhu22
03-14-2012, 04:30 PM
Re: Hesla
"EDIT: Not sure why i can't embed it"
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=114978
Funny thing is I still can't seem to embed images...sigh
sclitheroe
03-14-2012, 09:54 PM
Chick Corea is a personal favorite
He was supposed to be one of the acts performing at the now defunct Calgary Jazz festival the year it died (was it 2010? time flies!). I still don't understand how an affluent urban city the size of Calgary can't manage to pull off even a smallish Jazz Festival.
On a side note, I was listening to Oz Noy's Twisted Blues Volume 1 yesterday. Not sure if I'd call it blues or jazz, maybe it qualifies as fusion? There's quite a few tunes on the disc that start bluesy and rapidly evolve into jazz though.
Here's Cissy Strut:
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Traditional_Ale
03-14-2012, 10:23 PM
Some awesome selections going on here, folks! Keep them coming!
I really like fusion a lot, and this one of the rare instances of jazz/metal fusion where all the elements kick ass.
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afc wimbledon
03-15-2012, 12:22 AM
Sorry but I had to post the original, some bands shouldn't/can't be bettered, the Meters are one of them
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afc wimbledon
03-15-2012, 12:30 AM
Anyway if we are heading into the funky side of Jazz Herbie Mann has to represent
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afc wimbledon
03-15-2012, 12:38 AM
A couple of classics from the 70's
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afc wimbledon
03-15-2012, 01:00 AM
And a couple from way back
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Traditional_Ale
03-15-2012, 01:07 AM
Minnie The Moocher...
So much win...
troutman
03-15-2012, 09:04 AM
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calumniate
03-15-2012, 10:01 AM
For the adventurous (perhaps not to be played at the dealership):
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Quite the quartet. David S. Ware on sax can be an absolute whale. William Parker is very renowned on bass and Matthew Shipp on piano. I had the pleasure of seeing these guys in Seattle, and Matthew Shipp again in Montreal. William Parker has a number of nice albums out there.
Anthony Braxton is also pretty sweet.
troutman
03-15-2012, 10:45 AM
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As long as there is democracy, there will be people wanting to play jazz because nothing else will ever so perfectly capture the democratic process in sound. Jazz means working things out musically with other people. You have to listen to other musicians and play with them even if you don’t agree with what they’re playing. It teaches you the very opposite of racism and anti-Semitism. It teaches you that the world is big enough to accommodate us all
http://jazz-quotes.com/
Huntingwhale
03-15-2012, 01:19 PM
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troutman
03-15-2012, 01:35 PM
My mom hates jazz, because she thinks it is all scat-singing - scoooby da ba da ba.
Magnum PEI
03-15-2012, 02:09 PM
I don't really listen to jazz, except for a couple of songs. Mostly on rainy Sundays.
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There's some pretty amazing covers of this one on youtube, though none with the clarinet at the end.
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Stumptown
03-15-2012, 10:27 PM
How about some Zoot Sims?
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kunkstyle
03-15-2012, 10:45 PM
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Pretty much the same that makes it good for classical, very flat frequency response, very accurate, jazz sometimes benefits from a slightly 'coloured' speaker, a touch of emphasis on the bass.
I should have never asked. I somehow have a pair of Totem Sttafs sitting in my living room now.
afc wimbledon
03-16-2012, 12:19 AM
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I should have never asked. I somehow have a pair of Totem Sttafs sitting in my living room now.
Its just the start :yay:
afc wimbledon
03-16-2012, 12:25 AM
The Sttafs are a lovely speaker, great choice, which finish did you get them in?
kunkstyle
03-16-2012, 01:06 AM
The Sttafs are a lovely speaker, great choice, which finish did you get them in?
Slightly damaged black :bag:
Soundsaround is apparently going out of business and was selling off all their floor models. The left speaker has some cosmetic issues but they sound unreal. I've got a set of Def Techs for the home theater (and rocking out) which I love, but these Sttafs are unreal for brass & piano. The clarity is fantastic.
afc wimbledon
03-16-2012, 03:05 AM
Slightly damaged black :bag:
Soundsaround is apparently going out of business and was selling off all their floor models. The left speaker has some cosmetic issues but they sound unreal. I've got a set of Def Techs for the home theater (and rocking out) which I love, but these Sttafs are unreal for brass & piano. The clarity is fantastic.
Black shoe polish fixes everything:whistle:,
the fun of new speakers is listening to all your old tunes on them.
kunkstyle
03-17-2012, 01:03 AM
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drhu22
03-17-2012, 03:46 AM
Almost back on topic
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kunkstyle
10-02-2012, 10:23 PM
Live at the Village Vanguard, Bill Evans, 3 disc box set, quite cheap, sublime.
Thanks for that suggestion. I was in London Drugs today and they just happened to have it on vinyl. Listening to it while enjoying a scotch. Very nice album.
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/71387393/Randoms/2012-10-02%2016.46.14.jpg
sclitheroe
10-03-2012, 01:28 PM
I've been thoroughly enjoying this album:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JbIRluiNL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/conversations-in-swing-guitar/id105422265
I heard the track Easin' In on jazzradio.com the other day and ended up buying it on the strength of that one track.
If you like a touch of blues in your jazz (or vice versa, although this would be very jazzy for most blues fans) you'll enjoy it.
troutman
12-05-2012, 05:39 PM
http://jam.canoe.ca/Images/all/invisible.gif Jazz legend Dave Brubeck dead
http://jam.canoe.ca/Music/2012/12/05/20409611-wenn-story.html
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drhu22
01-17-2013, 10:43 PM
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Nice cover...
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drhu22
01-17-2013, 11:03 PM
I've been thoroughly enjoying this album:
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51JbIRluiNL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://itunes.apple.com/ca/album/conversations-in-swing-guitar/id105422265
I heard the track Easin' In on jazzradio.com the other day and ended up buying it on the strength of that one track.
If you like a touch of blues in your jazz (or vice versa, although this would be very jazzy for most blues fans) you'll enjoy it.
Thanks for that!
sclitheroe
01-18-2013, 11:27 PM
Thanks for that!
Glad you liked it!
drhu22
01-19-2013, 02:04 AM
I remember hearing some Scott Hamilton on CBC one night that sounded good. Can anyone post something inspiring by him?
ricosuave
01-19-2013, 08:50 AM
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TurnedTheCorner
01-19-2013, 09:27 AM
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Anduril
01-19-2013, 11:30 AM
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Soil and Pimp Sessions.... Anybody? Anybody?
Scribbled with the Note II
troutman
02-07-2013, 12:10 PM
The Mix: 50 Great Jazz Vocals
http://www.npr.org/2013/02/07/170656489/the-mix-50-great-jazz-vocals?sc=fb&cc=fmp
1. Billie Holiday (http://www.npr.org/artists/14894617/billie-holiday), "Strange Fruit"
2. Johnny Hartman (http://www.npr.org/artists/15394779/johnny-hartman) & John Coltrane (http://www.npr.org/artists/15394783/john-coltrane), "Lush Life"
3. Billie Holiday (http://www.npr.org/artists/14894617/billie-holiday), "God Bless the Child"
4. Ella Fitzgerald (http://www.npr.org/artists/15395370/ella-fitzgerald), "How High the Moon"
5. Ella Fitzgerald (http://www.npr.org/artists/15395370/ella-fitzgerald), "Mack the Knife"
6. Etta James (http://www.npr.org/artists/15401883/etta-james), "At Last"
7. Louis Armstrong (http://www.npr.org/artists/15185958/louis-armstrong), "What a Wonderful World"
8. Chet Baker (http://www.npr.org/artists/15395192/chet-baker), "My Funny Valentine"
9. Stan Getz (http://www.npr.org/artists/15401862/stan-getz) & Astrud Gilberto (http://www.npr.org/artists/90602630/astrud-gilberto), "Girl From Ipanema"
10. Peggy Lee (http://www.npr.org/artists/15724934/peggy-lee), "Fever"
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Soil and Pimp Sessions.... Anybody? Anybody?
Scribbled with the Note II
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpost.php?p=3598505&postcount=40 ;)
Anduril
02-07-2013, 11:07 PM
http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpost.php?p=3598505&postcount=40 ;)
:bag: at least it's out there.
flamestalker
02-08-2013, 04:21 PM
Definitely have to check this out.. one of my favourite jazz pianists of today... Hiromi Uehara
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