Erixon or Brodie?

[Oilbert]

Just curious, which prospect do you guys see as more of an impact for the flames in the future? Brodie is a puck moving defenseman and reading some scouting reports, he is projected to be an Ian White with more offensive flare. Erixon compares to former Flame Toni Lydman, but watching the WJC, he was the best Swedish defenseman and I think his offensive game is underrated.

Both are great prospects and I see them both getting stints in the NHL next season.

[Caged Great]

Erixon ten times out of ten. Erixon might become a #1 D-man, while Brodie is more likely to be a good 3-4 guy at best.

[DropIt]

agreed. Erixon by far. Hopefully Brodie can turn out to be a PP producer and give the team a boost offensively. But Erixon is a better all around player and at this time he has to be our #1 prospect in general.

[kirant]

Erixon. He gives me mini-Lidstrom vibes because of the way that he manages to calmly control the ice in so many situations. On the other hand Brodie is a good offensive D, but probably won't be any better than a 2nd pairing guy with PP quarterback abilities.

[Ring of Fire]

I think Brodie might be in the NHL sooner as an offensive 2nd-3rd pairing PP specialist. Eventually Erixon will be the better NHL defenceman and has potential to be a solid 2-way top pairing defenceman.

[Vinny01]

Erixon no question. I have hopes he develops into a first pairing Dman. Brodie I think will top out as a #4 Dman/pp specialist.

[Weiser Wonder]

I say Erixon as well. But, I want to dispel the notion that Brodie is an Ian White type. Brodie's strength is his skating, he's also about average height for an NHLer. Ian White is much smaller and slower, with more toughness. Not very similar players.

[bubbsy]

Hopefully, at least one makes the jump to the NHL this season. Though i was pretty disappointed about brent sutter's thoughts on both at the end of the year.

[JiriHrdina]

Hopefully, at least one makes the jump to the NHL this season. Though i was pretty disappointed about brent sutter's thoughts on both at the end of the year.

If we are thinking of the same comments - I recall there was some confusion over whether Sutter was saying no one is ready to make the jump, or that no forwards were.

[VladtheImpaler]

If we are thinking of the same comments - I recall there was some confusion over whether Sutter was saying no one is ready to make the jump, or that no forwards were.

Yes, his comments weren't clear. I guess if Staios and Carson are re-signed, we'll know it's not looking good. ;)

[JiriHrdina]

Yes, his comments weren't clear. I guess if Staios and Carson are re-signed, we'll know it's not looking good. ;)

Then there's Matt Pelech. Probably his last chance to make the team.

Right now where are we at?

Regehr-Bouw
Gio-Sarich

Then question marks re. whether Pardy/Babchuk/Carson get re-signed.

So it would seem like there is going to be one - perhaps two spots open.

[GreenLantern]

What has been holding Pelech back from making the big club? Is it just a lack of roster space? Or is there something in his game that just isn't clicking with the transition?

[flambers]

Then there's Matt Pelech. Probably his last chance to make the team.

Right now where are we at?

Regehr-Bouw
Gio-Sarich

Then question marks re. whether Pardy/Babchuk/Carson get re-signed.

So it would seem like there is going to be one - perhaps two spots open.

If I recall Pelech contract has expired... Not sure if he is a RFA or UFA...

Another dman to add to the list of players who could be ressigned is "Mikkelson".

[VladtheImpaler]

Then there's Matt Pelech. Probably his last chance to make the team.

Right now where are we at?

Regehr-Bouw
Gio-Sarich

Then question marks re. whether Pardy/Babchuk/Carson get re-signed.

So it would seem like there is going to be one - perhaps two spots open.

Mikkelson is potentially in play too, being RFA...

[Ring of Fire]

I think Carson, Pardy, and Mikkelson all battle for the same role. Carson I think is the best choice as he is the best combination of mobility, puck-moving ability, and physicality of the three.

Brodie (if ready) and Babchuk would be fighting for the sheltered minutes offensive defenceman and PP specialist.

Erixon is the player who can drastically change the look of the Flames defence this fall if he is NHL ready as he is a 2-way defenceman with the defensive awareness and offensive capability to develop into a legitimate top-4 defenceman.

[Beerfest]

Ive been hearing great things about Breen and many believe he will be a NHLer.

While I dont expect him to make the team next year, potentially in a year or two he could be 5/6/7 guy on the team or something.

As for Pelech I think hes fallen down the depth chart, imo.
Erixon, Brodie, Breen, Negrin etc are all potentially ahead of him.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

What has been holding Pelech back from making the big club? Is it just a lack of roster space? Or is there something in his game that just isn't clicking with the transition?

Footspeed, mobility, and decision making would be my guess. Breen looked quite a bit ahead of Pelech when I saw them play for the Heat in Calgary. I think people should temper their expectations of Pelech, not sure he'll be anything more than a depth defenseman at best. When a first year pro passes you on the organizational depth charts, it isn't a good sign and from all accounts (Feaster, Playfair, etc) it sounds like Breen has done that. For a supposed stay at home defenseman, Pelech wasn't making the smart, safe play that Regehr usually would. Breen on the other hand was able to move the puck quickly and efficiently out of pressure.

Wouldn't surprise me if Brodie, Erixon and Breen all see the NHL before Pelech, if he ever does step up. Pelech will find it very hard to win a role if we re-sign guys like Mikkelson, Carson and Babchuk.

[kirant]

Yes, his comments weren't clear. I guess if Staios and Carson are re-signed, we'll know it's not looking good. ;)
Why lump Carson in there though? He's probably the ideal 7th D for a one year contract if Pelech doesn't pan out: Not fancy, keeps it safe, can contribute offensively on occasion, but isn't a liability. Either him or Mikkleson (spelling?) could take the role easily, given that there is no player on Abbotsford other than Pelech really suited for the role (and assuming Brodie will either go to bottom pairing or be sent down for another year).

[Oilbert]

I say Erixon as well. But, I want to dispel the notion that Brodie is an Ian White type. Brodie's strength is his skating, he's also about average height for an NHLer. Ian White is much smaller and slower, with more toughness. Not very similar players.

Ian White is a top 4 defenseman, one would hope a prospect from the 2nd round can become similar to that. But I understand the comparision is off because of the height differential. Maybe a Braydon Coburn or Tom Gilbert type player?

[JiriHrdina]

Ian White is a top 4 defenseman, one would hope a prospect from the 2nd round can become similar to that. But I understand the comparision is off because of the height differential. Maybe a Braydon Coburn or Tom Gilbert type player?

Not sure if I'm misunderstanding your post but Brodie isn't a 2nd round pick - he's a 4th rounder.

[Weiser Wonder]

Ian White is a top 4 defenseman, one would hope a prospect from the 2nd round can become similar to that. But I understand the comparision is off because of the height differential. Maybe a Braydon Coburn or Tom Gilbert type player?

That's irrelevant. Obviously, Ian White is a better defensemen at the moment.

And you understand incorrectly, skating is the main difference between the players. Ian White must overcome his mobility to be effective, while mobility is Brodie's greatest strength.

[Ring of Fire]

Ian White is a top 4 defenseman, one would hope a prospect from the 2nd round can become similar to that. But I understand the comparision is off because of the height differential. Maybe a Braydon Coburn or Tom Gilbert type player?

Ian White is also not a top-4 defenceman. He is able to put up great offensive stats with PP time and against weak competition on the third pairing. He struggled in the top-4 role with Calgary and is now on San Jose's third pairing. White is what he is: an offensive specialist.

The reason the Ian White-TJ Brodie comparison is off has nothing to do with size difference and everything to do with style of play. Both are offensive defencemen but different styles. Brodie moves the puck well and is a great skater. I would say he might become more of a Brian Rafalski type player but comparables are difficult at this point.

[Oilbert]

Not sure if I'm misunderstanding your post but Brodie isn't a 2nd round pick - he's a 4th rounder.

Wow! I assumed he was a 2nd round pick for some reason. His progress looks amazing for a 4th round pick.

[Erick Estrada]

Back on topic it looks pretty clear watching the worlds that Erixon is nearly a surefire NHLer while the jury is still out on Brodie being a full time NHL player. I wonder if the Oilers would consider a package of Erixon and the 13th pick for 1st overall? As much as I think Erixon is a player the Flames really, really need a blue chip offensive guy like RNH. The Oilers meanwhile would get a badly needed top defensive prospect as well as a top 15 pick to address either another defenseman or center.

[JiriHrdina]

Yeah but if the Oilers need a top line defender - they can just draft Larsson instead. I simply can't see a way that the Oil trade that pick to their rivals and risk getting burned by a guy like RNH for the next decade.

I do agree they need both a centre and a defender.

[Calgaryborn]

I'm sure Erixon could handle 3rd pairing duties with the big club right out of the gate. He probably be better served though to start off on the farm though to learn the system, different rules, and smaller ice surfaces. I imagine that just the number of games he would be playing in a season would be an adjustment.

Barring serious injury I can't see Erixon not making an impact in the NHL. Hes got the size, speed, and hockey IQ. Wish he was more physical but, perhaps that will come as he matures and increases in strength.

[blankall]

Then there's Matt Pelech. Probably his last chance to make the team.

Right now where are we at?

Regehr-Bouw
Gio-Sarich

Then question marks re. whether Pardy/Babchuk/Carson get re-signed.

So it would seem like there is going to be one - perhaps two spots open.

I would like to see Mikkelson and Babchuk resigned, and then Sarich moved. Then put in 2 of the major defensive prospects in the 6-7 spots.

I realize there is a possibility that our defence could end up considerably worse without Sarich, but the Flames need to develop defensive prospects. Plus, this allows cap space to be moved from defence to offence. If Langkow is back full time, it may be a necessity anyways.

[blankall]

That's irrelevant. Obviously, Ian White is a better defensemen at the moment.

And you understand incorrectly, skating is the main difference between the players. Ian White must overcome his mobility to be effective, while mobility is Brodie's greatest strength.

No offense, but you sound like someone on HFBoards right now. White has accomplished a lot mroe than Brodie at this point. White has been easily playing top 4 minutes with the Sharks. Brodie has yet to solidify a spot in the NHL.

[JiriHrdina]

I would like to see Mikkelson and Babchuk resigned, and then Sarich moved. Then put in 2 of the major defensive prospects in the 6-7 spots.

I realize there is a possibility that our defence could end up considerably worse without Sarich, but the Flames need to develop defensive prospects. Plus, this allows cap space to be moved from defence to offence. If Langkow is back full time, it may be a necessity anyways.

There's all sorts of ways this could shake out. There is a belief by some that a major piece could be moved form the core this summer. Regehr seems to be the likely candidate and if that proves to be true - you must keep Sarich. Moreover, I think he had a darn good year and has good chemistry with Gio. I'm not in a rush to trade him.

If that isn't the case I would still look to re-sign Babchuk as long as he's reasonable and then let Brodie/Erixon compete for the #6 spot with guys like Mikkelson (if re-signed), Pelech and Breen battling for the final spot.

[prizefighterinferno]

No offense, but you sound like someone on HFBoards right now. White has accomplished a lot mroe than Brodie at this point. White has been easily playing top 4 minutes with the Sharks. Brodie has yet to solidify a spot in the NHL.

Before dropping a "no offense" comment, reread his post. Firstly, he said that obviously Ian White is a better defenseman right now. So your argument is unnecessary. Secondly, the point he was making was that Ian White's mobility detracts from his overall effectiveness, while Brodie's skating is his biggest asset. And it's true. Brodie could outskate Ian White any day of the week. That has nothing to do with prior "accomplishments" or "experience". Its just a fact.

[blankall]

There's all sorts of ways this could shake out. There is a belief by some that a major piece could be moved form the core this summer. Regehr seems to be the likely candidate and if that proves to be true - you must keep Sarich. Moreover, I think he had a darn good year and has good chemistry with Gio. I'm not in a rush to trade him.

If that isn't the case I would still look to re-sign Babchuk as long as he's reasonable and then let Brodie/Erixon compete for the #6 spot with guys like Mikkelson (if re-signed), Pelech and Breen battling for the final spot.

I don't disagree. I think Regehr is the best value for his contract and leaves a much smaller whole than Sarich. Regehr is also younger. However, someone may offer a lot more for Regehr than Sarich. If a decent first round pick or prospect is offered for Regehr you have to take a long look at it. Sarich on the other hand, is likely to get you a second round pick at best.

[Dome Roamer]

Wow! I assumed he was a 2nd round pick for some reason. His progress looks amazing for a 4th round pick.

Since when do the flames draft in the 2nd round.

[Freeway]

The big knock on Pelech is how many injuries he's had. Most of it is just bad luck, but it's definitely stalled out his development. Playfair REALLY likes Breen and told press that he was gonna be an NHLer.

Having seen both play, I'd lean towards Erixon over Brodie.

[Erick Estrada]

Yeah but if the Oilers need a top line defender - they can just draft Larsson instead. I simply can't see a way that the Oil trade that pick to their rivals and risk getting burned by a guy like RNH for the next decade.

I do agree they need both a centre and a defender.

Larsson makes sense but Erixon is ready to step in with Eberle and Hall and at least 2-3 solid centers should be available at 13. It was just a passing thought as I have a feeling they are going to take RNH anyway. The Oilers are really going to have a problem keeping all their forwards together after their entry level deals expire.

Right now best the Flames could hope for is probably Mark McNiell at the 13 spot which wouldn't be too bad.

[Johnny Rotten]

On the surface, I'd say Erixon has the best chance at being the better d-man between the two, but who have thought three/four years ago that Giordano would turn out to be a better d-man than Phaneuf (at least, as of now)?

[Oilbert]

Back on topic it looks pretty clear watching the worlds that Erixon is nearly a surefire NHLer while the jury is still out on Brodie being a full time NHL player. I wonder if the Oilers would consider a package of Erixon and the 13th pick for 1st overall? As much as I think Erixon is a player the Flames really, really need a blue chip offensive guy like RNH. The Oilers meanwhile would get a badly needed top defensive prospect as well as a top 15 pick to address either another defenseman or center.

These are the last two teams you'll find trading together, but to deal a potential 1st overall pick to the most hated rival after the tortures endured by Oilers fan this season will not be worth it.

I don't think I (or management) would have the guts to see the Flames picking up RNH with their pick.

I also don't think the downgrade of 1st to 13th is worth Erixon, sorry.

[Oilbert]

Yeah but if the Oilers need a top line defender - they can just draft Larsson instead. I simply can't see a way that the Oil trade that pick to their rivals and risk getting burned by a guy like RNH for the next decade.

I do agree they need both a centre and a defender.

They're getting a center to play with Hall.

Jarome Iginla is a superstar player, but what could've been if he had a 1st line center? In his brief playing time with a #1 center (Olympics), IIRC he scored 2 goals with Sakic? And the famous Iggy to Crosby pass last year.

I think the lack of a #1 center may have cost the Flames a stanley cup this decade. (2006 and 2004 come to mind)

[bubbsy]

i kind of hope the oilers draft RNH. their management probably will, as they just never seem to understand that speed and skill, with zero size and grit, just doesn't get you very far.

[cznTiburon]

Not sure if I'm misunderstanding your post but Brodie isn't a 2nd round pick - he's a 4th rounder.

And coburn is a first rounder

[Oilbert]

i kind of hope the oilers draft RNH. their management probably will, as they just never seem to understand that speed and skill, with zero size and grit, just doesn't get you very far.

Me too! I would love to see a Matt Duchene like player centering the 1st line in a few years!

[Oilbert]

And coburn is a first rounder

I think Brodie has the potential to have a Coburn like career.

[Erick Estrada]

I also don't think the downgrade of 1st to 13th is worth Erixon, sorry.

Anything more would be overpayment IMO. I like RNH but he's not Crosby, Stamkos, even Hall blue chip. Erixon (THN ranks him as the 15th best player in the world outside the NHL in their future watch) would immediately become the Oilers top defensive prospect and may be NHL ready. There's no way you can expect anything better than landing a guy like him as well as a top 15 pick for the 1st in this years draft. I'm not even sure that would be a good deal for the Flames as this draft is heavy with centers in the top 20 anyway.

[IliketoPuck]

I agree with EE, the Flames should just stay the course and draft a center at 13th. If the option to trade up/down for some cap relief next season comes up I would look into that as well.

[Oilbert]

Anything more would be overpayment IMO. I like RNH but he's not Crosby, Stamkos, even Hall blue chip. Erixon (THN ranks him as the 15th best player in the world outside the NHL in their future watch) would immediately become the Oilers top defensive prospect and may be NHL ready. There's no way you can expect anything better than landing a guy like him as well as a top 15 pick for the 1st in this years draft. I'm not even sure that would be a good deal for the Flames as this draft is heavy with centers in the top 20 anyway.

I think both sides are happy with the assets they have.

[GreenLantern2814]

To me, Brodie's ceiling is Brian Campbell, and I think we'd all be very happy with that (just not at 7M a year). Top 4 guy, undersized, but can move the puck well and skate his way out of trouble.

Erixon, if he absolutely maxed out, is a more defensively sound Visnovsky.

Now, of the two, I'd say the odds of reaching their max potential fall heavily in favor of Erixon; he looks REALLY polished for how young he is. But I hope both see time next year; we aren't one player away from contending, so we should give our best young players ice time so that the year after, when all our crap contracts are gone (except Stajan) we can really re-tool and go for it.

[moon]

Erixon, if he absolutely maxed out, is a more defensively sound Visnovsky.


I may be pessimistic but even at his top end potential there is no way I ever see Erixon leading the league in scoring for defensemen.

He would have to improve by leaps and bounds to become a poor man's Visnovsky.

[bubbsy]

I may be pessimistic but even at his top end potential there is no way I ever see Erixon leading the league in scoring for defensemen.

He would have to improve by leaps and bounds to become a poor man's Visnovsky.

agreed. I envision a giordano type player without the physicality and shot blocking.

[Svartsengi]

I was wondering when the deadline is to sign your 2009 entry draft picks?. If unsigned they can re-enter the 2011 draft I believe. NHL teams used to be able to hold on to European players until they were 31 but not under this CBA they get treated just like players in Canadian Major Junior.

Not saying Tim Erixon is refusing to sign I am just curious of the date.

[boogerz]

Toni Lydman seems like a better projection/comparison for Erixon than Campbell or Visnovsky. Well rounded, averaged sized, great skating euro, who's defensively sound without being physical, can move the puck, but doesn't have the enough offensive hockey sense to be a pp hog(at the NHL level)


If Erixon actually does become the next Toni Lydman, hopefully Sutter keeps him...so we don't have to see him on the top pairing of another team :facepalm:

[Vulcan]

I was wondering when the deadline is to sign your 2009 entry draft picks?. If unsigned they can re-enter the 2011 draft I believe. NHL teams used to be able to hold on to European players until they were 31 but not under this CBA they get treated just like players in Canadian Major Junior.

Not saying Tim Erixon is refusing to sign I am just curious of the date.

Yeah, I've been waiting for some news about anybody signing. Is Feaster on the job or what?

[kirant]

If Erixon actually does become the next Toni Lydman, hopefully Sutter keeps him...so we don't have to see him on the top pairing of another team :facepalm:
Isn't that Feaster's job at the moment? Or did I miss the part where B Sutter takes over GM?

[Mass_nerder]

To me, Brodie's ceiling is Brian Campbell, and I think we'd all be very happy with that (just not at 7M a year). Top 4 guy, undersized, but can move the puck well and skate his way out of trouble.

Erixon, if he absolutely maxed out, is a more defensively sound Visnovsky.

Now, of the two, I'd say the odds of reaching their max potential fall heavily in favor of Erixon; he looks REALLY polished for how young he is. But I hope both see time next year; we aren't one player away from contending, so we should give our best young players ice time so that the year after, when all our crap contracts are gone (except Stajan) we can really re-tool and go for it.

I would be pretty stoked if Brodie turned into a Brian Campbell type guy

[Johnny Rotten]

Yeah, I've been waiting for some news about anybody signing. Is Feaster on the job or what?

Someone convince me not to worry... They'll sign him, won't they?

[DropIt]

Me too! I would love to see a Matt Duchene like player centering the 1st line in a few years!

RNH isnt going to be a Matt Duchene. I have watched him play in Red Deer over the past 3 years and he does not show any of the traits that Duchene does.

[Weiser Wonder]

I don't think people are assessing Brodie properly for fear of overrating him. Truth is, he has a lot of potential. He's not limited to Brian Campbell levels. Don't get me wrong, he probably won't ever reach his full potential but there's nothing glaringly obvious holding him back from being another Duncan Keith or the like. I'd say the chances are extremely small of him reaching that potential, but he's not undersized, he's a great skater, seems to have a head for the game offensively. If he can develop defensively and bring his offense to the NHL, he could be a top 2 guy.

[Oilbert]

RNH isnt going to be a Matt Duchene. I have watched him play in Red Deer over the past 3 years and he does not show any of the traits that Duchene does.

Ok thanks for your opinion.

What are your projections on him?

[8sPOT]

I know this thread is meant to compare the potential of Brodie and Erixon. But everytime I see the title 'Erixon or Brodie?' I laugh because in my mind it's Erixon AND Brodie.

Two great players to have in our system going forward. Brodie had a big impact in pre-season last year and if he works hard enough this summer could find his way onto the team.

Erixon to me is a Lidstrom-lite, and that is fantastic praise.

Again, two very solid d-men to have in our system.

[DropIt]

Its not a comparison that I have heard at all this year, but IMO he has Adam Oates lite written all over him.
A smaller player who can take over games by using speed, positioning and his passes, however he can be neutralized by playing him physically and if he were to be keyed on specifically he can dissapear in games.

However, his passing is immaculate. Like Oates, Tanguay or Thornton he has the ability to draw players towards him with his stickhandling ability and eventually drawing a 2 on 1 scenario, which then opens up another skater and RNH can hit him seemingly wherever that player is on the ice.

With all that, Oates would be a hell of a player to draft especially for the Oilers and what they are trying to build. What I am trying to say is that RNH is strictly a comlplimentary, playmaking player and would not be able to lead a team or be the #1 guy like Duchene can.

[Caged Great]

From what I've seen of him, RHN is basically at best Tanguay or in that ball park. Good player, but not exceptional. None of the players in this draft are in that exceptional category. A lot of decent 2nd/3rd liner types but definitely no superstars. Larsson looks to me like Roman Hamrlik. Solid at both ends but not spectacular, a solid #3 but not someone you'd jump for joy at. Even the goalies suck badly this year which is unusual.

[Oilbert]

Its not a comparison that I have heard at all this year, but IMO he has Adam Oates written all over him.
A smaller player who can take over games by using speed, positioning and his passes, however he can be neutralized by playing him physically and if he were to be keyed on specifically he can dissapear in games.

However, his passing is immaculate. Like Oates, Tanguay or Thornton he has the ability to draw players towards him with his stickhandling ability and eventually drawing a 2 on 1 scenario, which then opens up another skater and RNH can hit him seemingly wherever that player is on the ice.

With all that, Oates would be a hell of a player to draft especially for the Oilers and what they are trying to build. What I am trying to say is that RNH is strictly a comlplimentary, playmaking player and would not be able to lead a team or be the #1 guy like Duchene can.

Thanks for the report! I appreciate the time and effort writing it!

Adam Oates would be superb! (If one can dream) However I hope RNH can be as good as the guy in my avatar, Doug Weight in his prime years.

And I don't think RNH needs to lead the team since it's Horcof, err Hall's team. I do agree with the pass first approach he has, and I think that's perfect for Eberle.

[Oilbert]

From what I've seen of him, RHN is basically at best Tanguay or in that ball park. Good player, but not exceptional. None of the players in this draft are in that exceptional category. A lot of decent 2nd/3rd liner types but definitely no superstars. Larsson looks to me like Roman Hamrlik. Solid at both ends but not spectacular, a solid #3 but not someone you'd jump for joy at. Even the goalies suck badly this year which is unusual.

Thanks for the insight! Who do you think the flames should draft with the 13th pick?

[Caged Great]

Honestly, I have no clue. There's about 6 players that are more or less equivalent in that range, so it's somewhat hard to pinpoint who's better than the other.

Any of Zibanejad, Armia, Bartschi, Saad, Schieffle, or Jensen would work for me. Personally, if I had to take one of them, It'd be Zibanejad followed by Jensen but it's somewhat hard to distinguish between them really.

It's not like one or two of those guys are projected to be first liners. All of them seem to be in that 2nd/3rd liner mould.

[Johnny Rotten]

Honestly, I have no clue. There's about 6 players that are more or less equivalent in that range, so it's somewhat hard to pinpoint who's better than the other.

Any of Zibanejad, Armia, Bartschi, Saad, Schieffle, or Jensen would work for me. Personally, if I had to take one of them, It'd be Zibanejad followed by Jensen but it's somewhat hard to distinguish between them really.

It's not like one or two of those guys are projected to be first liners. All of them seem to be in that 2nd/3rd liner mould.

I doubt Bartschi will be available; same with Zibanejad. I wouldn't them getting McNeil. Played well for a so-so team.

[Oilbert]

Honestly, I have no clue. There's about 6 players that are more or less equivalent in that range, so it's somewhat hard to pinpoint who's better than the other.

Any of Zibanejad, Armia, Bartschi, Saad, Schieffle, or Jensen would work for me. Personally, if I had to take one of them, It'd be Zibanejad followed by Jensen but it's somewhat hard to distinguish between them really.

It's not like one or two of those guys are projected to be first liners. All of them seem to be in that 2nd/3rd liner mould.

Any chance McNeil drops to the Flames, like Fowler did for the Ducks?

And you say they project to be 2nd liners, but I disagree it's determined on how well their development goes.

[DropIt]

I think you would be surprised with Bartschi. Looking at other teams' needs and the top ten staying relatively the same I think he has the potential to fall to us

[DropIt]

Any chance McNeil drops to the Flames, like Fowler did for the Ducks?

And you say they project to be 2nd liners, but I disagree it's determined on how well their development goes.


If Calgary takes McNeil, it wont be seen as a drop. McNeil is anywhere from a 10-20 spot player at this time.

And development has alot to do with it, yes. But the talent pool compared to the past 4 or 5 years is very watered down and weaker this year. Even RNH was looked at as most likely a 2nd line centreman with first line potential coming much later in his career

[JiriHrdina]

Any chance McNeil drops to the Flames, like Fowler did for the Ducks?

And you say they project to be 2nd liners, but I disagree it's determined on how well their development goes.

Based on most projections McNeil wouldn't even have to drop that much. I see a clear top six followed by 2-3 other guys that will go 7-9. After that - it gets pretty wide open.

[Oilbert]

I think you would be surprised with Bartschi. Looking at other teams' needs and the top ten staying relatively the same I think he has the potential to fall to us

What is the biggest knock on him? I heard size was the big issue with him, but he seems to be having a good playoffs.

[kirant]

Based on most projections McNeil wouldn't even have to drop that much. I see a clear top six followed by 2-3 other guys that will go 7-9. After that - it gets pretty wide open.
We can always hope though. I don't think anybody saw all three defencemen (expected to be gone within 3-7 I think) falling to 9-13 last year.

[Oilbert]

If Calgary takes McNeil, it wont be seen as a drop. McNeil is anywhere from a 10-20 spot player at this time.

And development has alot to do with it, yes. But the talent pool compared to the past 4 or 5 years is very watered down and weaker this year. Even RNH was looked at as most likely a 2nd line centreman with first line potential coming much later in his career

I agree, but I think RNH is above Seguin. I have watched both player pre draft and RNH is the bigger difference maker. Seguin got spoon fed ice time with Plymouth and the goalies were even being pulled so he can have a chance to take OHL scoring lead. I think RNH may have went top 5 in last years draft.

And 2010 draft is looking like a good one so far.

[Oilbert]

Based on most projections McNeil wouldn't even have to drop that much. I see a clear top six followed by 2-3 other guys that will go 7-9. After that - it gets pretty wide open.

Top 6 includes RNH, Larsson, Landeskog, Couturier, Huberdeau, Strome
In that order

Followed by:
Hamilton, Murphy, Siemens, McNeil, Armia.

Who do you see the Flames targeting?

[Caged Great]

Any chance McNeil drops to the Flames, like Fowler did for the Ducks?

And you say they project to be 2nd liners, but I disagree it's determined on how well their development goes.

It's just a personal opinion, but I think McNeil has a high potential to bust. He does have size, but from what I've seen he seems to be a similar type of prospect as Nemisz. It seems a little redundant to get the same type of player when it looks like Nemisz might top out at David Moss' level.

What I mean by projecting to be 2nd liners, they don't have that special thing that some prospects have that elevates them from being just average. RHN is probably the only one in the draft that has that special something and even he doesn't look like a star prospect. That's not to say that the lot of them are bad, they just don't have anything that really separates them from the rest. That's why I think it'll come down to who develops the prospects best because there's not really anything that separates anyone in the group from 10-25.

[DropIt]

I agree, but I think RNH is above Seguin. I have watched both player pre draft and RNH is the bigger difference maker. Seguin got spoon fed ice time with Plymouth and the goalies were even being pulled so he can have a chance to take OHL scoring lead. I think RNH may have went top 5 in last years draft.

And 2010 draft is looking like a good one so far.

I would be incredibly surprised if Hopkins turns out better then Seguin. Seguin is much more multi dimensional and has much more talent. Attitude and effort level is the only thing I can come up with that would hold Seguin back, and I dont see any sign of anything like that from Seguin.

I think Seguin is like Hall, a future franchise player, where Hopkins is a comlimentary player as I mentioned earlier. Hopkins hasnt been short shifted by any means either, and Seguin was on a typically average team and carried them.

[JiriHrdina]

Top 6 includes RNH, Larsson, Landeskog, Couturier, Huberdeau, Strome
In that order

Followed by:
Hamilton, Murphy, Siemens, McNeil, Armia.

Who do you see the Flames targeting?

A skilled forward. Tough to say who - once you get past Strome I think things become a little more uncertain. And Murphy is a wildcard - could go as high as 4 or 5 or drop out of the top 10.

[DropIt]

I think Zibanejad (being a longshot drop), Scheifele, Armia or Bartchi would all be good picks for the Flames. Zach Phillips could also be a stretch off the board and be a good contributor.

[moon]

I don't think people are assessing Brodie properly for fear of overrating him. Truth is, he has a lot of potential. He's not limited to Brian Campbell levels. Don't get me wrong, he probably won't ever reach his full potential but there's nothing glaringly obvious holding him back from being another Duncan Keith or the like. I'd say the chances are extremely small of him reaching that potential, but he's not undersized, he's a great skater, seems to have a head for the game offensively. If he can develop defensively and bring his offense to the NHL, he could be a top 2 guy.

Duncan Keith has at times been a top 5 defenseman in the league for the past 3 seasons. No way does Brodie come close to projecting to that level.

The thing holding him back from playing turning in to that player is that at no level has he shown any indication of coming close to a top 5 defensemen in the league.

From what I've seen of him, RHN is basically at best Tanguay or in that ball park. Good player, but not exceptional. None of the players in this draft are in that exceptional category. A lot of decent 2nd/3rd liner types but definitely no superstars. Larsson looks to me like Roman Hamrlik. Solid at both ends but not spectacular, a solid #3 but not someone you'd jump for joy at. Even the goalies suck badly this year which is unusual.

RNH potential is way beyond that of Tanguay. At worst that is what he turns into. He has the potential to easily be as good or better than Duchene and looks like a guy that is easily a top line player.

It's just a personal opinion, but I think McNeil has a high potential to bust. He does have size, but from what I've seen he seems to be a similar type of prospect as Nemisz. It seems a little redundant to get the same type of player when it looks like Nemisz might top out at David Moss' level.

Again I disagree. McNeil looks like a guy that has very little potential to bust because he should be a 3rd line guy at worst for many teams. For a pick that should go arund13-20 that is a pretty decent return if you can get a second line center potential with 3rd line center almost assured. He may not have the top line potential of some but I would take him over a lot of flashy guys who seem to be top 6 or bust with bust being a heavy favorite (i.e. Armia or Zmendjbidnbsdafbasdjkfbhasdk)

[Erick Estrada]

It's just a personal opinion, but I think McNeil has a high potential to bust. He does have size, but from what I've seen he seems to be a similar type of prospect as Nemisz. It seems a little redundant to get the same type of player when it looks like Nemisz might top out at David Moss' level.

Barring a team taking him ahead of the Flames or someone dropping out of the top 10 it's looking like a marriage between McNeil and the Flames. Obviously it's entirely possible the Flames scouting covets aonther player but it would be pretty hard for the Flames to pass on a center of his size and skill and it has to be a near certainty that the pick will be used on a forward. The fact that he's from Edmonton almost makes it a certainty.;)

[Erick Estrada]

It's just a personal opinion, but I think McNeil has a high potential to bust. He does have size, but from what I've seen he seems to be a similar type of prospect as Nemisz. It seems a little redundant to get the same type of player when it looks like Nemisz might top out at David Moss' level.

Yes but as long a top centerman is a position of need and the team isn't picking top 5 you pretty well have to keep taking guys like this and hope that one of them pans out into a 1st line center. Even if Nemisz turns into a solid 3rd line player that's one less position to fill from free agency.

From what I have read Zibanejad sounds more like a 2-way center so if he slips to the Flames I'm not sure if he would be a better pick than McNeil.

[Caged Great]

Yes but as long a top centerman is a position of need and the team isn't picking top 5 you pretty well have to keep taking guys like this and hope that one of them pans out into a 1st line center. Even if Nemisz turns into a solid 3rd line player that's one less position to fill from free agency.

From what I have read Zibanejad sounds more like a 2-way center so if he slips to the Flames I'm not sure if he would be a better pick than McNeil.

It's definitely difficult when the entire draft kind of looks mediocre. McNeil could very well be a decent pick. I just don't think he has much upside, from my point of view, he looks like Wayne Primeau, who wouldn't necessarily be a bad pick, but I think we should be shooting a little higher.

With Zibanejad, the only reason why I like him a little more is that he looks like he could possibly be a crash and bang winger with offensive talent, basically Bourque without the dumb penalties.

Only problem is that they all look like they're in the same jelly mould unfortunately. Usually there's some different types of players but they all look like they're decent two way forwards with some offensive upside. It'll make the scouts jobs a bit tougher.

If we could get Catenacci with a 2nd round pick (I know we don't have one), I would be thrilled. He looks like a possible Cammalleri type. The only drawback is his height (he's the fastest player in the draft)

I wouldn't mind at all trading down to get a 2nd round pick as I don't think there's any difference between any of the forwards in the 10-25 group

[thymebalm]

Brodie is under-rated on CP..

Heat's top scorers
1. Keith 35Pts in 77GP
2. Rheault 34 in 79
*3. Brodie 34 in 68
Heat's PPG leaders
1.Ales Kotalik .88 (25gp)
2.*Carter Bancks .66 (29gp)
3.*Brodie 0.5
*rookie

Brodie nearly took the scoring title as both a defender and a rookie. He's good.

Erixon is probably the safer bet right now, but I think Brodie could be as good (in his own right) as Erixon, given he continues to build on his last two seasons.

[sureLoss]

I wouldn't mind Sven Baertschi:

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[Jing]

I would definitely want the flames to go for someone with more skill.

Guys I wouldn't mind at #13 are:

Armia
Zibenjad
Scheifele
Bartchi

McNeill looks decent, but other seem to have more natural skill. If it comes down to it I would rather take Scheifele then McNeill.

[Garbs]

I wouldn't mind Sven Baertschi:

113708

Anyone that head butts the puck into the net is ok in my books

[cznTiburon]

The talent coming out of switzerland now adays is really great to see, 5 years down the road and we could really see their international team start winning tournys

[Oilbert]

The talent coming out of switzerland now adays is really great to see, 5 years down the road and we could really see their international team start winning tournys

They'll overtake the Czechs soon.

[dissentowner]

I wouldn't mind Sven Baertschi:

113708
He would be my 1st choice as well. Don't think he will still be there though.

[Reign of Fire]

Feaster on Fan 960 said that Erixon hasn't been signed yet, and the deadline is coming up. He better get it done, imagine if we lose him.

[getbak]

Feaster on Fan 960 said that Erixon hasn't been signed yet, and the deadline is coming up. He better get it done, imagine if we lose him.
I didn't hear him on the Fan, but there's an interview with him on the Flames' website, and he doesn't sound concerned about getting it done. It sounds like they were waiting for his season to be done, which it finally is with the Worlds being over. I'd think that with the CBA and ELC rules being what they are, it's not too tough to sign a first round pick -- just give him the rookie max and figure out the bonus structure that works.


Also, based on what Feaster said, it sounds like both Erixon and Brodie will be given a real shot at making the team, and he said that they're looking at drafting someone this year who can be looking at cracking the line-up by the 2012-13 season.

[Bezer]

I like Erixon better than Brodie. Erixon seems to be a very well rounded player and I hope he makes the team this year or next. And wasn't there stories about Brodie having some attitude issues, that sets off a lot of warning bells for me.

As far as the draft I just want one player that will make an immediate impact like Fowler or Skinner.. unlikely but praying to the hockey gods every night might help.

[Johnny Rotten]

When are the Flames going to announce Erixon's signing? I know Feaster said it shouldn't be a problem to get him signed, but come on already!

[HighLifeMan]

When are the Flames going to announce Erixon's signing? I know Feaster said it shouldn't be a problem to get him signed, but come on already!

Erixon must be signed before June 1st, So I assume it will be announced sometime this week.

[The Original FFIV]

Erixon must be signed before June 1st, So I assume it will be announced sometime this week.

Or we deal him for a top 10 pick in this year's draft - could be interesting as Columbus has been angling for a d-man, Florida is in tear down mode and NJ has a history of building around the D.

If Erixon wants to be here and help build a winner, we welcome him with open arms. If he doesn't, I won't be upset if we draft twice in the top 13 in this year's draft.

[Superfraggle]

Or we deal him for a top 10 pick in this year's draft - could be interesting as Columbus has been angling for a d-man, Florida is in tear down mode and NJ has a history of building around the D.

If Erixon wants to be here and help build a winner, we welcome him with open arms. If he doesn't, I won't be upset if we draft twice in the top 13 in this year's draft.

So...you think a team is going to trade a top 10 pick in this year's draft for the rights to a player which will expire in a week leaving them with nothing if they can't sign him either?

[Flames Draft Watcher]

So...you think a team is going to trade a top 10 pick in this year's draft for the rights to a player which will expire in a week leaving them with nothing if they can't sign him either?

If they come to an agreement with his agent then sure.

We had a trade worked out with the Maple Leafs to trade Jarret Stoll's rights for a 2nd and 4th rounder but fax issues I believe ended up botching it before the deadline.

[FlamesAddiction]

If we don't sign Erixon, what type of compensation pick do we get? Is there a formula for figuring it out, or does the NHL decided arbitrarily?

I hope we sign him though. The contract should just be a standard entry level deal for a 1st rounder, no? I thought those contracts were pretty much cookie cutter stuff.

[Johnny Rotten]

If we don't sign Erixon, what type of compensation pick do we get? Is there a formula for figuring it out, or does the NHL decided arbitrarily?

I hope we sign him though. The contract should just be a standard entry level deal for a 1st rounder, no? I thought those contracts were pretty much cookie cutter stuff.

I think it's pretty standard. He can't hold out for more than what an entry level contract dictates.

Hopefully, a contract is done this week and this can all be put to bed.

IF it were possible, a trade of Erixon in the top ten would be alright, I guess, but in my opinion only if it gave the Flames a chance to draft a highly rated forward.

[Superfraggle]

If they come to an agreement with his agent then sure.

We had a trade worked out with the Maple Leafs to trade Jarret Stoll's rights for a 2nd and 4th rounder but fax issues I believe ended up botching it before the deadline.

I think you guys are undervaluing top 10 draft picks here. And the new team isn't allowed to negotiate with Erixon's agent before they acquire his rights. Unless you're suggesting that the Flames have known for a while that they weren't going to sign Erixon and gave his agent permission to talk to other teams, while pretending to fans that Feaster expects to sign him themselves. Farfetched.

[Johnny Rotten]

I think you guys are undervaluing top 10 draft picks here. And the new team isn't allowed to negotiate with Erixon's agent before they acquire his rights. Unless you're suggesting that the Flames have known for a while that they weren't going to sign Erixon and gave his agent permission to talk to other teams, while pretending to fans that Feaster expects to sign him themselves. Farfetched.

It probably is far-fetched, but why is he not signed yet? Feaster said he couldn't negotiate with Erixon during the WHC, but why wasn't he signed BEFORE the WHC?

They had two years to sign the player, and still no news? Ryan Howse was drafted the same year, and he's signed, but their first pick that year is not. That seems strange to me.

[JiriHrdina]

It probably is far-fetched, but why is he not signed yet? Feaster said he couldn't negotiate with Erixon during the WHC, but why wasn't he signed BEFORE the WHC?

They had two years to sign the player, and still no news? Ryan Howse was drafted the same year, and he's signed, but their first pick that year is not. That seems strange to me.

They are not supposed to negotiate with Erixon while his season was still on. His season continued from league play through to the WHCs - so the first real chance to do it was after those wrapped up.

This is nothing to worry about - he will be signed, and in fact may have been signed already- and we are just waiting for the formal announcement.

[Swayze11]

If we don't sign Erixon, what type of compensation pick do we get? Is there a formula for figuring it out, or does the NHL decided arbitrarily?

It isn't great. Blake Wheeler elected to not sign with the Coyotes and he was drafted 5th overall. The Coyotes got the 35th pick as compensation... pretty weak IMO.

[CofR]

Just a heads up, Brodie is calling and will be on Fan 960 at 2:45 this afternoon.

[albertGQ]

Compensation for a 1st rounder is the same number pick but in the second round. Since Wheeler was the 5th pick in round one, the Yotes got the 5th pick in round two for compensation.
So the Flames will get the 13th pick in 2011 second round if we can't sign Erixon

And other teams can negotiate with him and his agent provided the Flames give them the right.

[Mass_nerder]

Compensation for a 1st rounder is the same number pick but in the second round. Since Wheeler was the 5th pick in round one, the Yotes got the 5th pick in round two for compensation.
So the Flames will get the 13th pick in 2011 second round if we can't sign Erixon

And other teams can negotiate with him and his agent provided the Flames give them the right.

Wasn't Erixon picked at 24?
Meaning we would pick at 54?

[CofR]

Some highlights of the Brodie interview:
- Says he began to lose confidence in himself early when Playfair got on him but learned to not take it personally, and that the coach was trying to help him.
- He grew up a lot this season, by being on his own and learned a lot about what it takes to be a pro.
- He was happy with his point production, but his main focus was to be a defenceman and to focus on work in his own end.
- is planning on approaching this offseason the same as last year, perhaps add a bit more weight.
- There isn't much more pressure on him to make the team this season, says that if it doesn't happen he knows what he needs to work on.
- I believe he said that he doesn't like to see Vancouver win, but they are playing well (I couldn't really make out what he said)

He was very well spoken, and very polite. I missed the first part, but I think I got most of it... I'm sure it will be up in the audio on demand section soon.

[BigBrodieFan]

Some highlights of the Brodie interview:
- Says he began to lose confidence in himself early when Playfair got on him but learned to not take it personally, and that the coach was trying to help him.
- He grew up a lot this season, by being on his own and learned a lot about what it takes to be a pro.
- He was happy with his point production, but his main focus was to be a defenceman and to focus on work in his own end.
- is planning on approaching this offseason the same as last year, perhaps add a bit more weight.
- There isn't much more pressure on him to make the team this season, says that if it doesn't happen he knows what he needs to work on.
- I believe he said that he doesn't like to see Vancouver win, but they are playing well (I couldn't really make out what he said)

He was very well spoken, and very polite. I missed the first part, but I think I got most of it... I'm sure it will be up in the audio on demand section soon.


I got to listen to the second part too. He is the most polite, humble, sweet kid. Thanks CofR ;)

[albertGQ]

Wasn't Erixon picked at 24?
Meaning we would pick at 54?

Actually, I beleive he was picked 23rd?
So we'll get the 23rd pick in the second round

But I would be shocked if we didn't sign him. No other team can offer more than we can. If we don't sign him, its a case of him not wanting to play in Calgary like Wheeler didn't want to play in Phoenix

[Flames Draft Watcher]

I think you guys are undervaluing top 10 draft picks here. And the new team isn't allowed to negotiate with Erixon's agent before they acquire his rights. Unless you're suggesting that the Flames have known for a while that they weren't going to sign Erixon and gave his agent permission to talk to other teams, while pretending to fans that Feaster expects to sign him themselves. Farfetched.

The Flames could give permission for Erixon's agent to talk to teams before a trade.

But all this talk is pointless as I believe he will be signed by Calgary.

[Vinny01]

Actually, I beleive he was picked 23rd?
So we'll get the 23rd pick in the second round

But I would be shocked if we didn't sign him. No other team can offer more than we can. If we don't sign him, its a case of him not wanting to play in Calgary like Wheeler didn't want to play in Phoenix


Erixon was picked 23rd but that was NJ's first. We traded down to add the third needed to get Bouw's rights if I am not mistaken? I think we had the 20th pick in the 09 draft.

[kirant]

Erixon was picked 23rd but that was NJ's first. We traded down to add the third needed to get Bouw's rights if I am not mistaken? I think we had the 20th pick in the 09 draft.
Yup. 3rd and Leopold's rights for Bouwmeester's rights.

[Superfraggle]

The Flames could give permission for Erixon's agent to talk to teams before a trade.

But all this talk is pointless as I believe he will be signed by Calgary.

I said that: "I think you guys are undervaluing top 10 draft picks here. And the new team isn't allowed to negotiate with Erixon's agent before they acquire his rights. Unless you're suggesting that the Flames have known for a while that they weren't going to sign Erixon and gave his agent permission to talk to other teams, while pretending to fans that Feaster expects to sign him themselves. Farfetched."

[flamesaresmokin]

This is pretty poor on the flames part to let it come down to this. Its not hard to deal with entry level contracts anymore. If i'm not mistaken isn't the only thing to hang this up potentially bonus amounts?

[Calgaryborn]

Do the Flame's have to shed a contract before they can add Erixon's?

[Vulcan]

Do the Flame's have to shed a contract before they can add Erixon's?

No he'll be on a two way contract and the way I understand it, only one way contracts count against the cap during the off season.

The only thing I can see the contract being held up for is that Erixon wants big bonus money but the Flames will want the bonus money low so they can fit him in under the big club's cap. If his bonus is too high, than they will have to send him to Abbotsford. If Feaster explains this in the negotiations, Erixon could balk as he may want the bigger money and a spot on an NHL team even if it isn't the Flames.

[Johnny Rotten]

This is pretty poor on the flames part to let it come down to this. Its not hard to deal with entry level contracts anymore. If i'm not mistaken isn't the only thing to hang this up potentially bonus amounts?

On the surface, I'd have to agree. I can't figure out what else could be going on. The contract shouldn't be that complicated, but what else could be holding it up?

1) The player doesn't want to sign here, which as Rob Kerr said today, would be strange considering that Erixon came to the rookie camp, etc.

2) Could there be a trade in the works?

3) The Flames are trying create a level of suspense by announcing his signing at the latest possible moment.

4) Something that I can't think of and hasn't been mentioned here.

[Superfraggle]

No he'll be on a two way contract and the way I understand it, only one way contracts count against the cap during the off season.

The only thing I can see the contract being held up for is that Erixon wants big bonus money but the Flames will want the bonus money low so they can fit him in under the big club's cap. If his bonus is too high, than they will have to send him to Abbotsford. If Feaster explains this in the negotiations, Erixon could balk as he may want the bigger money and a spot on an NHL team even if it isn't the Flames.

I'm guessing he meant the limit of number of contracts a team can have, not the salary cap.

[Calgaryborn]

I'm guessing he meant the limit of number of contracts a team can have, not the salary cap.

Yes. I thought I heard the limit was 50 contracts in all and we had that many contracts.

[Beerfest]

Yes. I thought I heard the limit was 50 contracts in all and we had that many contracts.

The Flames dont have that many contracts signed considering UFA's and RFA's.

[Vulcan]

I'm guessing he meant the limit of number of contracts a team can have, not the salary cap.

I'm thinking he would, for the moment be the same as Howse, signed to a pro contract but not officially turned pro, so not counting against the 50 man Reserve List yet.

[Freeway]

I'm thinking he would, for the moment be the same as Howse, signed to a pro contract but not officially turned pro, so not counting against the 50 man Reserve List yet.

Any contract Erixon signs wouldn't come into effect until July 1, which is when the "50 contracts" rule seems to be in effect. The salary cap is a whole other kettle of fish.

[Lunatik]

On the surface, I'd have to agree. I can't figure out what else could be going on. The contract shouldn't be that complicated, but what else could be holding it up?

1) The player doesn't want to sign here, which as Rob Kerr said today, would be strange considering that Erixon came to the rookie camp, etc.

2) Could there be a trade in the works?

3) The Flames are trying create a level of suspense by announcing his signing at the latest possible moment.

4) Something that I can't think of and hasn't been mentioned here.5) he is already signed and they want to announce all the signings of draft picks at the same time if they are also signing Bennett and Bjorklund

[Johnny Rotten]

5) he is already signed and they want to announce all the signings of draft picks at the same time if they are also signing Bennett and Bjorklund

6) Answers 3 or 5;)

[sevenarms]

If Erixon doesn't sign then Brodie is the better prospect.

[sworkhard]

If Erixon doesn't sign then Brodie is the better prospect.

Very true. If he does sign though, Erixon is definitely the better prospect. He elevates his game when it matters, and has had success wherever he's gone.

[Erick Estrada]

Guess this thread can be closed.

[Oilbert]

Have any of your opinions changed?

[SeoulFire]

After much internal debate I think I will go with Brodie.

[Hesla]

Brodie !!! Brodie !!! Brodie !!!

[the-rasta-masta]

Should we set up a poll?

[sevenarms]

Brodie or Negrin???

[kirant]

I seriously hope it's Brodie. Erixon has great talent and will likely be the better player, but that cow-plop move by his family (and what seems like his willingness to go with it) really bugs me.

[nik-]

Have any of your opinions changed?

You're seriously annoying.

[BigBrodieFan]

Have any of your opinions changed?

Mine never changed. :whistle:

[Dion]

Have any of your opinions changed?

What about yours?

[Mass_nerder]

My opinion has changed...I thought Erixon was a better Flames prospect, but now it's obviously Brodie, after this whole situation.





Erixon is still a better player though, and probably has a better chance of being a difference maker, unfortunately.

[Superfraggle]

Have any of your opinions changed?

My opinion of Erixon has dropped a lot. I really didn't think we'd have to let him go. Good on Feaster for getting a good return.

[Oilbert]

What about yours?

Still think Brodie will be the better pro player. Erixon likely would've gotten a bigger role in the future on the Flames than the Rangers.

[fanman]

Brodie 100% F'ing deserter Erixon.

[Breaker]

Trading Tim Erixon away is another blunder by Flames management.

I the Flames are unable to sign top prospects they might as welll pack up and leave.

[madmike]

Trading Tim Erixon away is another blunder by Flames management.

I the Flames are unable to sign top prospects they might as welll pack up and leave.

Wow. What do you mean it was a blunder? Erixon wasn't going to play in Calgary - he made that very clear. I don't think it had very much to do with Calgary - he wanted to go to the Rangers, a team his father has close ties to. He saw his opportunity and took it.

The Flames could have been stubborn and let him re-enter the draft, but even then Erixon likely would have been drafted in a higher slot and made more money - it was a no-lose situation for him.

[GreenLantern2814]

Wow. What do you mean it was a blunder? Erixon wasn't going to play in Calgary - he made that very clear. I don't think it had very much to do with Calgary - he wanted to go to the Rangers, a team his father has close ties to. He saw his opportunity and took it.

The Flames could have been stubborn and let him re-enter the draft, but even then Erixon likely would have been drafted in a higher slot and made more money - it was a no-lose situation for him.

He wouldn't have made more money; he was offered max dollars from the flames, and simply didn't want to be here. Getting drafted ten spots higher doesnt have any impact on his contract.